Attention Dak Haters: His Criticism is like Aaron Rodgers’

[ryanbabs]

Brady is the product behind the best coach that will ever coach in this league.

I think it’s the other way around IMO. But no doubt, Belichick is a great coach.

 

[Legend]

They made the playoffs (shoot won 12 and 13 games) with a defense worse than this one.

There isn't a shred of doubt that with a better QB this would be a better team. A SB winning team? Of course not. But I have never argued that it's only Dak holding this team back. It's a combination of things, which includes the QB.

Let’s build a SB contending team quickly (within next 3 years) like Jimmy and Jerry did for the team below.

It has been 22+ years and counting....

The Cowboys have been drafting decent recently. I like LVE.

I hope they use trades and free agency wisely and not make bad Watkins type offers again.

But next year it would be good to see improvements for the receiving unit and safeties.

 

[Sydla]

Let’s build a SB contending team quickly (within next 3 years) like Jimmy and Jerry did for the team below.

It has been 22+ years and counting....

The Cowboys have been drafting decent recently. I like LVE.

I hope they use trades and free agency wisely and not make bad Watkins type offers again.

But next year it would be good to see improvements for the receiving unit and safeties.

The SB team Jimmy and Jerry built started with an elite QB prospect in Aikman. In fact, the quality of the QB was so important to Jimmy that not only did he use the #1 pick on a QB (Aikman) in 1989, they used a high pick in the supplemental draft that year to take Steve Walsh (and surrendered a 1990 #1 pick to do so). They were so focused on making sure they had a great QB they used basically two #1 picks to take a QB in the same year.

So LOL and trying to compare what Johnson did back then with what should happen now. If we are following the 1990s Johnson plan, the Cowboys would be carpet bombing the QB position to find an elite QB.

You literally make some of the worst analogies I have ever seen.

 

[irishline]

Let’s build a SB contending team quickly (within next 3 years) like Jimmy and Jerry did for the team below.

It has been 22+ years and counting....

The Cowboys have been drafting decent recently. I like LVE.

I hope they use trades and free agency wisely and not make bad Watkins type offers again.

But next year it would be good to see improvements for the receiving unit and safeties.

Jerry and Jimmy had a total of 33 picks in the 1991 and 1992 drafts, including 18 in the top 4 rounds alone. We do not have a Herschel Walker to trade (or even a Dexter Coakley). No team would fall for a trade like that again. There is a salary cap now. This is not the early 1990s.

You are not going to upgrade an OL, wide receivers, tight ends, and defense all at the same time, or fast enough to make up for a below average QB. By the time some of those upgrades begin to pay off you would be losing others because of the cap. It's a cycle. You would have a better chance upgrading a QB who is ranked 28th in the NFL, over basically his last full season worth of games, than the majority of the team around him. Honestly some of the team would look better with just an average QB so far this season (and ALL would look better with better coaching).

The SB team Jimmy and Jerry built started with an elite QB prospect in Aikman. In fact, the quality of the QB was so important to Jimmy that not only did he use the #1 pick on a QB (Aikman) in 1989, they used a high pick in the supplemental draft that year to take Steve Walsh (and surrendered a 1990 #1 pick to do so). They were so focused on making sure they had a great QB they used basically two #1 picks to take a QB in the same year.

So LOL and trying to compare what Johnson did back then with what should happen now. If we are following the 1990s Johnson plan, the Cowboys would be carpet bombing the QB position to find an elite QB.

You literally make some of the worst analogies I have ever seen.

Also this.

 

[Legend]

The SB team Jimmy and Jerry built started with an elite QB prospect in Aikman. In fact, the quality of the QB was so important to Jimmy that not only did he use the #1 pick on a QB (Aikman) in 1989, they used a high pick in the supplemental draft that year to take Steve Walsh (and surrendered a 1990 #1 pick to do so). They were so focused on making sure they had a great QB they used basically two #1 picks to take a QB in the same year.

So LOL and trying to compare what Johnson did back then with what should happen now. If we are following the 1990s Johnson plan, the Cowboys would be carpet bombing the QB position to find an elite QB.

You literally make some of the worst analogies I have ever seen.

It started with Michael Irvin who was drafted in 1988. Aikman in 1989. Smith in 1990. Haley acquired in trade after 1991 season.

All the Cowboys have to do now is find a true #1 WR, #2 WR, TE, and safeties within next 1-2 seasons with better coaching.

Then maybe they can contend and try to replace the Patriots at the top of the throne and to regain their glory.

Top team by decades
1970s - Steelers; although the Cowboys played in 5 SBs winning 2
1980s - 49ers
1990s - Cowboys
2000s - Patriots
2010s - maybe Patriots

 

[Legend]

Jerry and Jimmy had a total of 33 picks in the 1991 and 1992 drafts, including 18 in the top 4 rounds alone. We do not have a Herschel Walker to trade (or even a Dexter Coakley). No team would fall for a trade like that again. There is a salary cap now. This is not the early 1990s.

You are not going to upgrade an OL, Wide receivers, Tight ends, and Defense enough to make up for a below average QB. It is easier to just upgrade a QB who is ranked 28th.



Also this.

In today’s mediocre NFL... do not need an elite QB if offense is centered around Zeke + OL... like Emmitt was with the Cowboys.

Let Dak drive the bus especially if true #1 WR is attracting 2 defenders.

Plus, with salary cap cannot afford an elite QB with Zeke, OL, true #1 WR, and playmakers on D.

 

[Sydla]

It started with Michael Irvin who was drafted in 1988. Aikman in 1989. Smith in 1990. Haley acquired in trade after 1991 season.

All the Cowboys have to do now is find a true #1 WR, #2 WR, TE, and safeties within next 1-2 seasons with better coaching.

Then maybe they can contend and try to replace the Patriots at the top of the throne and to regain their glory.

Top team by decades
1970s - Steelers; although the Cowboys played in 5 SBs winning 2
1980s - 49ers
1990s - Cowboys
2000s - Patriots
2010s - maybe Patriots

They took Irvin in 1988 because it was one of the weakest QB drafts in league history. The first QB taken was in the 3rd round that year - Chris Chandler.

Johnson himself has said that getting the QB was always the top priority for him when he was building that team. Hence in their 2nd draft, in a strong QB draft, they not only took a QB with the #1 pick but they also then used another #1 pick a month later to take Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft.

So no, what Johnson did in the 90s to build that SB team is nothing what you are suggesting. He did not just take any old QB and just put a better team around him and win. It's downright preposterous for you to even try to argue this.

Replace the Patriots? LOL. The Patriots have ruled the NFL for the last 15 years because they have an elite coach and elite QB. We have neither.

At this point, I firmly believe you are just trolling people. Because your last two posts about replacing the Pats and how we should build this team like Johnson did in the 90s are so bizarre and foolish, I can only conclude you are just having fun now.

 

[Sydla]

In today’s mediocre NFL... do not need an elite QB if offense is centered around Zeke + OL... like Emmitt was with the Cowboys.

Let Dak drive the bus especially if true #1 WR is attracting 2 defenders.

Plus, with salary cap cannot afford an elite QB with Zeke, OL, true #1 WR, and playmakers on D.

Aikman was a great QB in the NFL in those days.

Are you suggesting he was a bus driver?

 

[cowboyblue22]

in todays modern passing league you cannot win unless u have a really good quarterback that can be accurate passing the ball you have to score points to win a running first team will never win a title now you have to have a really good QUARTERBACK THAT IS ACCURATE and good innovative coaching

 

[Legend]

Aikman was a great QB in the NFL in those days.

Are you suggesting he was a bus driver?

I am suggesting Troy was great with Emmitt and Irvin.

Emmitt in my opinion was the best player of the Triplets and the key player the offense was centered around.

Even Troy stated he could have put up better numbers if he played in pass happy systems during his prime.

But he sacrificed his stats for winning.

Building around Zeke with a true #1 WR, an elite QB is not needed... since the offense will be balanced and not pass happy.

Case in point: Troy still had a concussion in the 1993 SB and the Cowboys trailed 13-7 at the half.

Just imagine if the Cowboys were just a pass happy offense?

On the first offensive possession in the second half, Jimmy turned the game over to Emmitt...

Run 6 straight times, took a breather for 1 passing play, and then carried 1 more time for a TD...

Ball controlled, chewed up the game clock, and beat the Bills D into exhaustion.

 

[Sydla]

I am suggesting Troy was great with Emmitt and Irvin.

Emmitt in my opinion was the best player of the Triplets and the key player the offense was centered around.

Even Troy stated he could have put up better numbers if he played in pass happy systems during his prime.

But he sacrificed his stats for winning.

Building around Zeke with a true #1 WR, an elite QB is not needed... since the offense will be balanced and not pass happy.

Case in point: Troy still had a concussion in the 1993 SB and the Cowboys trailed 13-7.

Just imagine if the Cowboys were just a pass happy offense?

On the first offensive possession in the second half, Jimmy turned the game over to Emmitt...

Run 6 straight times, took a breather for 1 passing play, and then carried 1 more time for a TD...

Ball controlled, chewed up the game clock, and beat the Bills D into exhaustion.

But Troy was a great player on his own.

Which once again is failed analogy you made. Because Dak isn't in the same stratosphere as Troy Aikman. It's the missing link you continually ignore when you make all these bizarre and frankly stupid analogies with Dirk N, Montana, Manning, Aikman, etc.

 

[Legend]

in todays modern passing league you cannot win unless u have a really good quarterback that can be accurate passing the ball you have to score points to win a running first team will never win a title now you have to have a really good QUARTERBACK THAT IS ACCURATE and good innovative coaching

The Cowboys can win with Dak. Won 13 games.

The only other times the Cowboys won 13 game was in 1992 and 2007.

In 2016, Dez and Witten still commanded the D attention... freeing up others like Beasley and TWill.

Zeke and the OL were beasts... allowing Dak to drive the bus.

However, the D sucked due predominantly to the secondary... a recurring problem for several years even in 2014.

 

[Legend]

But Troy was a great player on his own.

Which once again is failed analogy you made. Because Dak isn't in the same stratosphere as Troy Aikman. It's the missing link you continually ignore when you make all these bizarre and frankly stupid analogies with Dirk N, Montana, Manning, Aikman, etc.

Do not know about On His Own... because when the Cowboys won SBs... Troy played on stacked teams..

I could careless how good Aikman was... I liked that the Cowboys also had Irvin, Emmitt, a dominant D, and a great coach to lean on.

The main reason the Cowboys have not reached a NFC Championship game since 1995 is they have not had a team that was dominant on offense, defense, and ST simultaneously.

I do not like just having an elite QB and expecting that QB to lead the team to SBs. Thus, you will be like AR and Drew Brees... having only won 1 SB each over 10+ years if lucky.

Could also have a Tony Romo with no SB wins.

I want the Cowboys to return to dominance.

 

[Sydla]

Do not know about On His Own... because when the Cowboys won SBs... Troy played on stacked teams..

I could careless how good Aikman was... I liked that the Cowboys also had Irvin, Emmitt, a dominant D, and a great coach to lean on.

The main reason the Cowboys have not reached a NFC Championship game since 1995 is they have not had a team that was dominant on offense, defense, and ST simultaneously.

I do not like just having an elite QB and expecting that QB to lead the team to SBs. Thus, you will be like AR and Drew Brees... having only 1 won SB each.

I want the Cowboys to return to dominance.

The quality of the QB is important in all these debates. You can't just throw it aside like it's not big deal. Those Cowboys teams don't win 3 SBs if it's Emmitt, Irvin, a dominant D and then a schlub at QB. It's embarrassing and idiotic to actually act like Aikman actually wasn't great and just a guy along for the ride on a great Cowboys team. I mean are you really suggesting that you don't know if Aikman was a great QB because he played on a really good team? How do we know if Irvin was a really good WR if he didn't play with Aikman? Or would Emmitt be the leading rusher in NFL history if he played with Chris Chandler and Bobby Hoying for much of his career?

You want a return to dominance? Then you need a great QB. Look at all the dynasties in the NFL - Patriots, Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers, Packers?

Everyone of those dominant runs had a Hall of Fame QB on those teams (yes, with other great players). You are a fool if you think the Cowboys can create another dynasty with an average QB.

 

[Legend]

The quality of the QB is important in all these debates. You can't just throw it aside like it's not big deal. Those Cowboys teams don't win 3 SBs if it's Emmitt, Irvin, a dominant D and then a schlub at QB. It's embarrassing and idiotic to actually act like Aikman actually wasn't great and just a guy along for the ride on a great Cowboys team. I mean are you really suggesting that you don't know if Aikman was a great QB because he played on a really good team? How do we know if Irvin was a really good WR if he didn't play with Aikman? Or would Emmitt be the leading rusher in NFL history if he played with Chris Chandler and Bobby Hoying for much of his career?

You want a return to dominance? Then you need a great QB. Look at all the dynasties in the NFL - Patriots, Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers, Packers?

Everyone of those dominant runs had a Hall of Fame QB on those teams (yes, with other great players). You are a fool if you think the Cowboys can create another dynasty with an average QB.

Build the dominant team first and see how Dak performs... which will make Dak a lot better.

Terry Bradshaw was a good enough QB for the Steelers 70s dynasty.

If a QB wins 3 or more SBs...with a stacked team, more than likely that QB will be a HOFer.

 

[Sydla]

Build the dominant team first and see how Dak performs... which will make Dak a lot better.

Terry Bradshaw was a good enough QB for the Steelers 70s dynasty.

If a QB wins 3 or more SBs...with a stacked team, more than likely that QB will be a HOFer.

LOL.

I just can't anymore. It gets worse and worse for you with every post. Basically, your argument is this............ all these great QBs, they might not have been so great because they had good teams around them therefore, give Dak a good team and he'll be great, just like them.

And in the chum of this dumb argument lay the bodies of guys like Rodgers, Aikman, Bradshaw, etc. who apparently, either are overrated, not as good as people thought, not good enough to do better than what Dak has done or some other bizarre rational that makes these guys look worse and Dak look better.

Awesome sauce.

 

[Legend]

Per NFL Films 2010 Top 100 Players of All-time... of course the rankings will be different now.. some of the rankings are below.

Irvin - #92
Aikman - #80
Smith - #28

Jerry Rice - #1
Joe Montana - #4
Steve Young - #81

As you can see on dominant SB winning teams... the QB, WR, or RB could be considered the team’s best player.

Not always the QB.

 

[Legend]

LOL.

I just can't anymore. It gets worse and worse for you with every post. Basically, your argument is this............ all these great QBs, they might not have been so great because they had good teams around them therefore, give Dak a good team and he'll be great, just like them.

And in the chum of this dumb argument lay the bodies of guys like Rodgers, Aikman, Bradshaw, etc. who apparently, either are overrated, not as good as people thought, not good enough to do better than what Dak has done or some other bizarre rational that makes these guys look worse and Dak look better.

Awesome sauce.

I am stating build around Zeke as the best player on offense.

With a dominant D and elite WR... a non-elite QB will not be needed. Since in today’s mediocre NFL... you do not need as many future HOFers like in the early 90s.

Of course a stacked team will make Dak a lot better.

Emmitt was considered the best player on the Cowboys SB winning teams.

 

[Sydla]

Per NFL Films 2010 Top 100 Players of All-time... of course the rankings will be different now.. some of the rankings are below.

Irvin - #92
Aikman - #80
Smith - #28

Jerry Rice - #1
Joe Montana - #4
Steve Young - #81

As you can see on dominant SB winning teams... the QB, WR, or RB could be considered the team’s best player.

Not always the QB.

Dak would never be considered the best player on this team. That's the problem.

In other words, you will never find Dak Prescott on a NFL List of Top 100 players ever.

So again, your comparisons to the 49ers and Cowboys teams of old is idiotic.

Further, this post undermines your point above where you basically wonder how good Aikman was because he played on stacked teams. Then link to a ranking that has him as the 80th best player of all time. LOL.

 

[Sydla]

I am stating build around Zeke as the best player on offense.

With a dominant D and elite WR... a non-elite QB will not be needed.

Of course a stacked team will make Dak a lot better.

Emmitt was considered the best player on the Cowboys SB winning teams.

And then as proof of this point you talk about the 49ers and Cowboys. "Hey guys, they won SBs with their best player not being a QB!!!!!!!"

Of course forgetting to mention that while maybe the best player on those 49ers teams or Cowboys team might not have been the QB, the QB was still an elite player, which Dak is most definitely not.

In other words, those 49ers teams and Cowboys teams were dominant because they had great teams AND A GREAT QB.