Prime Romo would win the Super Bowl with the current Cowboys

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Nah. Garrett would still be coaching. You still need a good coach to win one.

Many put the blame on Romo, but he had Wade and Garrett as his head coach for the majority of his playing years. When he had a legitimate one (Parcells) he looked to be on his way to a Super Bowl and likely would've won one.

My guess is Mara got to Parcells and asked him to retire after he got his money for retirement.
 

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I would agree with you, I think Dak would be better with years of work with Witten and Owens.

The fascination with Romo comes from his rise from obscurity, his loyalty and sacrifice to the organization, his talent and I think most of all, the way he handled the end of his career and even the popularity by people for his broadcasting.

Now I'll drive you crazy--

Romo was also a pretty good playoff QB.

8TD's - 2 INT's - 93 QB Rating.

He was never Rodgers or Peyton that could single handedly carry a franchise to a Super Bowl but he did his job.

If Dilfer, Rypien and Flacco can win Super Bowls he certainly could have.
I loved Romo and I supported him until he retired. If we're being fair Romo developed into what he was.
I also think he bloated regular season numbers are overshadowing the very few postseason games he played.
 

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People cheering for the current qb are not dak slobberers they want to win. Romo is over with so the Romosexuals are really irritating. As much as you might **** off to it. He will never win a sb or more than 2 playoff games. Time to move on. Most here that like dak would not say hes better than average right now or that he deserves over 20 million a year. I remember I went crazy cuz romo got paid like a sb mvp qb cuz jerry loves him. We are still getting out from his **** contracts. Lets just hope it takes us less than a decade this time to realize we don't have the right QB.
We’ll see. But right now it’s not looking like we will meet or surpass last era.
 

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What are you 4? I'll never understand why you can't support your players on the roster without some dick exaggerating as if fans are calling Prescott a shoe in HOFer.
You don’t like the slobberers phrase. I’m sorry I can’t take credit for the phrase.

Every player is fair game for criticism.
 

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Romo never had a Defense that was this good. He also never got to play with Zeke. Romo’s Quick release, sliding within the pocket, and Houdini escapability would make the o-line better. His accuracy would make Cooper, Beasley, and Gallup better. Too bad Dak makes receivers and the o-line worse.

Romo in his prime was damn good. Its too bad his body didn't hold up. I remember the last time he went down and it felt like my dog died lol. Seriously though, I was looking forward to his vindication. That said I knew he could no longer stay healthy and I supported Dak.
 

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You don’t like the slobberers phrase. I’m sorry I can’t take credit for the phrase.

Every player is fair game for criticism.
You didn't call Dak a "slobberer", you called fans who like him that moniker.
So I guess you meant every fan is fair game for criticism.
 

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Jerry is still the owner and Garrett is still the coach. So we could’ve had the first tie in super bowl history.
 

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Romo never had a Defense that was this good. He also never got to play with Zeke. Romo’s Quick release, sliding within the pocket, and Houdini escapability would make the o-line better. His accuracy would make Cooper, Beasley, and Gallup better. Too bad Dak makes receivers and the o-line worse.

Lol-no.

He had T.O, a young Witten, Terry Glenn, a great running game and a good defense and couldn’t win one playoff game.
 

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You didn't call Dak a "slobberer", you called fans who like him that moniker.
So I guess you meant every fan is fair game for criticism.
No, I was referring to every player is fair game for criticism.


I adopted the slobberers phrase from another member on this site. I think it’s appropriate for some.
 

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Easy. Owens and Witten were HOF caliber, reliable players. They always created separation, got open and had great hands. Not sure what you saw but they made some great catches and in their prime made some great after the catch. Owens was elite everywhere he played. Witten played forever. Bryant made some great grabs in his prime, those weren't all perfectly placed passes. I get your point about a couple of mediocre WR's that bombed when they went elsewhere, but you can literally say that about many WRs on other teams.

It's reasonable to assume id Prescott had an Owens, Witten or Bryant in their prime perhaps he'd have some bigger numbers.

I really don't understand the Romo fascination. He was very good in the regular season. I wish the same excuses fans still use for Romo were afforded to Prescott. That and it's unrealistic at best to compare 12 years to 2 and a half. Even Romo said he wasn't a very accurate or strong passer in his early years and that he developed.

Maybe Prescott won't get any better. Who knows. But the biased around here is crazy. Fans are STILL drooling over Romo.
I gave you Owens (mostly), and I gave you the point about Witten getting open (usually very briefly though, and Romo knew when and where to throw it), but I don't recall Witten making many "great catches". He was usually a 'go out, turn around, and the ball will be in your gut when you get there' type of guy....with occasional exceptions, like the helmetless TD.

Dez made some great contested catches, but the ball was usually where it was to his advantage over the defender.

I don't see how Witten or Dez made Tony better. It's not like Eli, whose receivers made, and still make him look better than he really is.

As for Dak, I'm hoping he gets much better with time, and I'm willing to give him enough time to see if he does. I like the kid, personally, and he has the tools. He just doesn't use the right tools for the job enough of the time.
 

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My guess is that Bill refused to be a yes man and that's what ultimately ended the relationship.
I doubt Bill was ever a "yes" man. As far as I'm aware, Jerry wanted him to continue coaching the team after his four year contract terminated, and Bill never said Jerry was difficult to work with. Whether Jerry wanted him to coach under some new conditions like you're suggesting, I guess that's a moot point.
 

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No, I was referring to every player is fair game for criticism.


I adopted the slobberers phrase from another member on this site. I think it’s appropriate for some.
You could have phrased it better, you mean. Okay.
 

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So, this is about correlating QB’s with their teams success?

And fans are happy with results so far with Dak? I’m confused ??
Don't be confused. I haven't read all of your posts but in my opinion some decent and great qbs get a bad rap because of their win loss record.

IMO Romo is just as good if not better than ELI and Flacco yet they have rings.
 

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Romo never had a Defense that was this good. He also never got to play with Zeke. Romo’s Quick release, sliding within the pocket, and Houdini escapability would make the o-line better. His accuracy would make Cooper, Beasley, and Gallup better. Too bad Dak makes receivers and the o-line worse.


I don't know if he would win the Superbowl but we would be a 2 loss team at worst and possibly undefeated.
 

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I gave you Owens (mostly), and I gave you the point about Witten getting open (usually very briefly though, and Romo knew when and where to throw it), but I don't recall Witten making many "great catches". He was usually a 'go out, turn around, and the ball will be in your gut when you get there' type of guy....with occasional exceptions, like the helmetless TD.

Dez made some great contested catches, but the ball was usually where it was to his advantage over the defender.

I don't see how Witten or Dez made Tony better. It's not like Eli, whose receivers made, and still make him look better than he really is.

As for Dak, I'm hoping he gets much better with time, and I'm willing to give him enough time to see if he does. I like the kid, personally, and he has the tools. He just doesn't use the right tools for the job enough of the time.
I think we could present an argument Romo made them better or at least more productive.

Dez production went down considerably without Romo.

Miles Austin was never really heard from again after leaving Dallas. Romo even made Laurent Robinson a household name one season.

And I’m not even a Romo homer but the stats speak for themself. Even Witten production was down without Romo.
 

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Lol-no.

He had T.O, a young Witten, Terry Glenn, a great running game and a good defense and couldn’t win one playoff game.

LOL and in his prime had a stupidazz GM hiring Phillips and Garrett, trading 3 picks for RW, drafting Felix Jones , the special teams draft. Didn’t take Tyron til Romo was 32. It was a joke and people still blame the QB? One ridiculous decision after another through the meat of his career!
 
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