News: ST: The Cooper effect. How an unsatisfied Amari Cooper has improved the Cowboys offense

[zrinkill]

If receiver was the draft pick then I would rather have Cooper because I do not trust this staff to teach and groom a receiver

 

[Philmonroe]

Dez the decoy bad.

Cooper + the first round pick the decoy good.

I hate the idea of spending resources on players that we can't use.

That's why I was one of the handful on here who was happy with LVE over Ridley.

We can actually use LVE. Ridley or any WR is just a waste. I'd rather have a TE .

We don't need to spend a first rounder on a guy to run off coverage. Dak's still a 200 yard passer.

Yeah some think Dak is going to be more than a low 200 yard passer but the eye test and stats say otherwise even in the always mentioned 2016 season.

 

[Kaiser]

They didn't need to spend a 1st round pick to get a guy that runs off some coverage.

Brice Butler, is that you?

Just kidding, I would agree if they had signed Sammy Watkins or someone who could. But they didn't - Hurns and Thompson didn't come close to filling that role and opponents still keyed on the run with impunity.

 

[Kaiser]

With Cooper we win the Texans, Washington and I think Carolina game too. Seattle I think we lose anyways and Titans they just weren't prepared.

Could not agree more.

 

[kumizi]

Third down Conversion %:

Before Cooper = 31%, (29th in the league)

(last three games) 50% (7th in the league)


The impact on Prescott:

His completion percentage before Cooper’s arrival was 62.1. It has been 69.7 since.

His quarterback rating was 87.4 before and is 96.4 after.

He averaged 202.4 passing yards per game before and is at 240.3 after.

His yards per attempt has gone up from 6.9 to 7.3.

And of course, the Cowboys have a 2-1 record.

Has Amari Cooper made the Cowboys better? Yes

Do the Cowboys now have an offense worthy of contending for a Super Bowl? No

Is it monumentally stupid to be giving away first round picks when you don’t have a franchise QB? Yes.

 

[Kaiser]

I think we'll have a great barometer for improvement on Thursday. Once again playing a team that totally shut down our offense. Let's see how things go this time.

Agree, its a big test of the two biggest improvements on offense - OL and Amari Cooper. The Commanders have a good DL but that was the classic example of why they brought Cooper in - teams keyed on the run and we couldn't do anything about it.

 

[Kaiser]

Do the Cowboys now have an offense worthy of contending for a Super Bowl? No

Who do you consider Super Bowl contending teams right now?

 

[kumizi]

Oh wow we would’ve been 8-2 if we had Amari Cooper.

I guess that means we should finish the season around 5-1 in our next six games.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I would rather them acquire WR's anywhere outside the first round because they will never validate having a high end WR with Dak Prescott throwing the football.

Go get an offensive tackle or something that will actually be of use.

But with an offense that allows the defense to dictate play and a QB that lacks arm talent i'm not wasting premium resources on that position.

That makes no sense. You’d rather them get a inferior player in rounds where it’s tougher to find talent.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

18 points (if you take out the Jax game) versus 21.

A small increase but 21 points per game still ranks in the bottom 12 or so in football.

So the premise here that Cooper has transformed our offense is a reach at this point.

Well being that the Cowboys have lost a few games by 3? That’s a big deal. 3 points determines if you win or lose in this league.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Are you trying to make a coherent point because I must’ve missed it?

I’m stating a simple fact. If you aren’t capable of understanding a basic point I’m not sure if this is the site for you.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yea. Scoring points is overrated. You should let the rest of the league know.

I swear this fanbase.

I didn’t say it was overrated moron I said that this offense wants to control the clock. They don’t have the playbook nor the offense to try and score 50 points a game and compete with a high powered offense. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

 

[kumizi]

Who do you consider Super Bowl contending teams right now?

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

Six out of that top seven (minus Indy) are the top tier. All those teams are scoring 28ppg or more. The Cowboys with Amari Cooper are around 21ppg. That would put them around 23rd on the list. The Cowboys are only relevant right now because the NFC East is so bad. No one thinks they’re a contender.

 

[kumizi]

I’m stating a simple fact. If you aren’t capable of understanding a basic point I’m not sure if this is the site for you.

What fact did you state?

 

[Denim Chicken]

Is it monumentally stupid to be giving away first round picks when you don’t have a franchise QB? Yes.

What QB where you targeting with that #1 pick?

 

[kumizi]

What QB where you targeting with that #1 pick?

That is a shortsighted question. A top 10 pick (had they not made the trade) is ammunition. That’s why I face palm every time I hear “they would’ve picked a wr anyway and Cooper is better” argument. That is not how any successful franchises operate. First round picks are valuable because they give you cost certainty.

 

[Kaiser]

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

Six out of that top seven (minus Indy) are the top tier.

Five of those seven are also in the bottom half of defense, some in the bottom five. Pittsburgh and Chicago are the only ones on that list that have a defense.

The NFL is way too watered down with Parity-Ball to rule teams out. Philly won the last Super Bowl and wasn't considered a favorite last year and Atlanta the year before was the same. That doesn't mean Dallas will go deep in the playoffs but the Playoffs are an entirely different matter and you can't rule Dallas out.

 

[Denim Chicken]

That is a shortsighted question. A top 10 pick (had they not made the trade) is ammunition. That’s why I face palm every time I hear “they would’ve picked a wr anyway and Cooper is better” argument. That is not how any successful franchises operate. First round picks are valuable because they give you cost certainty.

Fans overvalue picks. I'll take a proven player over a prospect. So I'll ask again, what QB in this class are your targeting as your next franchise guy?

 

[OmerV]

Dez the decoy bad.

Cooper + the first round pick the decoy good.

I hate the idea of spending resources on players that we can't use.

That's why I was one of the handful on here who was happy with LVE over Ridley.

We can actually use LVE. Ridley or any WR is just a waste. I'd rather have a TE .

We don't need to spend a first rounder on a guy to run off coverage. Dak's still a 200 yard passer.

It's a bit early to say this is a player we can't use. He came midseason and hasn't had the benefit of any time and familiarity with the offense and his teammates, much less go through a training camp with the Cowboys.

 

[Kaiser]

That is not how any successful franchises operate. First round picks are valuable because they give you cost certainty.

Successful franchises operate on value and not on stockpiling cheap talent when they have a very young team and tons of cap space. Dallas got a top 12 WR for a pick that was very unlikely to return that much value - WR or not. And they did it when a speed WR was their most critical need instead of writing off this season.