Salvation Army Kettle

[mrmojo]

It's becoming tradition, they need to allow it like they do the Lambeau leap.

 

[Hardline]

Funny thing is Zeke used $21 as a prop also and it wasn't flagged.

 

[Plumfool]

 

[Dale]

Gonna be honest. Football is ultimately entertainment. The kettle stuff entertains me.

Goodell can shove the penalties up his turkey hole.

 

[mmohican29]

Whatever!! Kiss .. ...

Handing Washington a net 50 yards and keeping them alive in a game we MUST win is incredibly stupid despite the outcome.

 

[TheHerd]

It's becoming tradition, they need to allow it like they do the Lambeau leap.

Cowboys would never get that sort of leeway.

 

[Ranching]

Handing Washington a net 50 yards and keeping them alive in a game we MUST win is incredibly stupid despite the outcome.

So?

 

[Runwildboys]

They would have scored anyway.

Maybe, but it would've taken a lot longer, if they did.

 

[CATCH17]

Question.


Who was the guy wearing the NFL vest that gave Zeke 21 Dollars

Why was that not ruled a prop?

It seemed set up by the league.

 

[Runwildboys]

If they were warned, that's different, but the celebration rule does not have anything in it that would penalize a player for doing what Elliott did, and there have been plenty of celebrations that have been overlooked that actually violate the rule (such as celebrating on the Cowboys' midfield star).

Actually, it was specifically stated that using the kettle as a prop is against the rules.

 

[Ranching]

Maybe, but it would've taken a lot longer, if they did.

Et Tu?

 

[Runwildboys]

Et Tu?

Yes. If we had a kicker who could still kick it out of the end zone from farther back, I'd be fine with it. But that could have cost us the game.

 

[Ranching]

Yes. If we had a kicker who could still kick it out of the end zone from farther back, I'd be fine with it. But that could have cost us the game.

You're dead to me!

 

[gimmesix]

Actually, it was specifically stated that using the kettle as a prop is against the rules.

I found this that supports what you're saying, but technically it appears that Amari's celebration should have been a penalty, too, as well as other celebrations such as the player who used the TV camera.

Here's what I found:

Ezekiel Elliott's jump into a Salvation Army kettle would still draw a penalty this season, even after the NFL's decision in May to relax its celebration rules.



Elliott's spontaneous leap, which came during the Dallas Cowboys' Week 14 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, is featured in a video that the league is showing all players and coaches during training camp.

The relaxed ruled allow players to use the ball but nothing else as a prop. In the Elliott scenario, the kettle is considered a prop.

ESPN earlier reported that "dunking" the ball over the crossbar after a score will remain illegal because it uses the goal post as a prop.

 

[Runwildboys]

Funny thing is Zeke used $21 as a prop also and it wasn't flagged.

Maybe the difference is that he never actually touched the kettle himself....but okay, the money was a prop. Maybe they considered it a donation?

 

[TexasBoys2288]

Question.


Who was the guy wearing the NFL vest that gave Zeke 21 Dollars

Why was that not ruled a prop?

It seemed set up by the league.

Good question.

 

[Runwildboys]

I found this that supports what you're saying, but technically it appears that Amare's celebration should have been a penalty, too, as well as other celebrations such as the player who used the TV camera.

Here's what I found:

Ezekiel Elliott's jump into a Salvation Army kettle would still draw a penalty this season, even after the NFL's decision in May to relax its celebration rules.



Elliott's spontaneous leap, which came during the Dallas Cowboys' Week 14 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, is featured in a video that the league is showing all players and coaches during training camp.

The relaxed ruled allow players to use the ball but nothing else as a prop. In the Elliott scenario, the kettle is considered a prop.

ESPN earlier reported that "dunking" the ball over the crossbar after a score will remain illegal because it uses the goal post as a prop.

Maybe in the case of Cooper's celebration, because the goal post was never touched, it can't technically be considered a prop?

 

[Dale]

Question.


Who was the guy wearing the NFL vest that gave Zeke 21 Dollars

Why was that not ruled a prop?

It seemed set up by the league.

Believe it was a photographer. And yes, the money was a prop and probably should have been penalized.

 

[Roadtrip635]

I will say that Zeke is a pretty strong dude. Dak ain't exactly small, but Zeke picked him up like nothing and lifted over and into that kettle.

 

[gimmesix]

Maybe in the case of Cooper's celebration, because the goal post was never touched, it can't technically be considered a prop?

He used it as part of the celebration so technically it would have been a prop.