Gallup's numbers should rival Cooper's

[CATCH17]

gallup's production would be higher. yes. that doesn't mean his numbers would equal cooper's. yes, if dak hit gallup every single time he was open deep, maybe it would be fairly close. and if dak hit cooper every single time HE was open, it would quickly not be close again. cooper being a much better WR matters quite a bit. cooper doesn't just get open on deep passes (statistically much harder to complete). that's gallup's main bag right now. cooper can get open deep, middle, shallow, in the middle, on the outside - anywhere. being a much better WR will generally give that WR better numbers.

That's just not true and you only have to go back to the last game and see Gallup in loads of space in the middle of the field and watch Dak throw it 10 feet over his head for a INT.



Gallup has been tremendous as a rookie and he has high upside and could be on par with Cooper at some point in his career.


People want to put a limit on the type of upside Michael Gallup has but the only thing that has limited him so far is Dak's ability to throw the football.


"Oh he's just a #2 receiver anyways." "He'll never be a #1."

Blah blah blah. Gallup has legit talent and could be one of the better receivers in the NFL and he could've been one of the more productive WR's in the NFL THIS SEASON if Dak could throw him the football.

 

[MyFairLady]

Gallup will be fine. I'm salivating at this kid's development. He looks open almost every play.

Sanjay Lal has done a hell of a job with these receivers this year.

Our receivers were garbage until Cooper walked in and saved the day. Not too impressed with anything Sanjay has done.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Not all of those were on Dak.

it was the kickers fault.

 

[hornitosmonster]

Yep.

He'd be in the discussion for OROY if Dak could get him the ball.

No way he would win it over Mayfield. What planet do live on?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Our receivers were garbage until Cooper walked in and saved the day. Not too impressed with anything Sanjay has done.

one thing is for sure....Cooper seems to get about 5 to 10 yards of separation from DBs, which is great, since that's what Dak needs to complete passes.

 

[Vandyr]

No way he would win it over Mayfield. What planet do live on?

"in the discussion"

 

[hornitosmonster]

"in the discussion"

There is no discussion.

 

[CATCH17]

No way he would win it over Mayfield. What planet do live on?

I don't get why you guys think that i'm saying he would win it when I say he would be in the discussion.

Please tell me what planet where being a OROY Nominee means he would win it because here on earth it doesn't mean that.

 

[Clarkson]

That's just not true and you only have to go back to the last game and see Gallup in loads of space in the middle of the field and watch Dak throw it 10 feet over his head for a INT.



Gallup has been tremendous as a rookie and he has high upside and could be on par with Cooper at some point in his career.


People want to put a limit on the type of upside Michael Gallup has but the only thing that has limited him so far is Dak's ability to throw the football.


"Oh he's just a #2 receiver anyways." "He'll never be a #1."

Blah blah blah. Gallup has legit talent and could be one of the better receivers in the NFL and he could've been one of the more productive WR's in the NFL THIS SEASON if Dak could throw him the football.

lol your entire post is a straw man.
i didn't put any kind of cap on gallup's ceiling.
deep routes are most definitely his main bag right now; that doesn't mean he hasn't been open on other routes. he has. but he's mainly been missed on deep throws, which are *statistically much more difficult to complete.* he simply does not get the amount of separation cooper does. this is an objective fact - cooper is among the league's best at getting separation. gallup is not.
i don't think he has cooper's upside, tho. few WRs in the league do. but he certainly has a lot of talent, and i think will be very good. cooper is just legitimately one of the best WRs in the league.

do you think dak is just magically much better at throwing cooper the ball than he is throwing to gallup? does that make more sense than coop simply being a much better all-around WR at this point in time than gallup is?

 

[Vandyr]

There is no discussion.

 

[CATCH17]

lol your entire post is a straw man.
i didn't put any kind of cap on gallup's ceiling.
deep routes are most definitely his main bag right now; that doesn't mean he hasn't been open on other routes. he has. but he's mainly been missed on deep throws, which are *statistically much more difficult to complete.* he simply does not get the amount of separation cooper does. this is an objective fact - cooper is among the league's best at getting separation. gallup is not.
i don't think he has cooper's upside, tho. few WRs in the league do. but he certainly has a lot of talent, and i think will be very good. cooper is just legitimately one of the best WRs in the league.

do you think dak is just magically much better at throwing cooper the ball than he is throwing to gallup? does that make more sense than coop simply being a much better all-around WR at this point in time than gallup is?

Gallup is our X receiver so of course in this offense he will be running more of the 9 routes.


Gallup getting separation is not a problem.

Nobody in this league runs routes like Cooper either so stop comparing his route running to Amari Cooper.

 

[Praxit]

..I'm not worried, he'll get his.

 

[hornitosmonster]

You guys are reaching on both. That there's a real discussion about rookie of the year and that it's Daks fault Gallup isn't in this "discussion".

 

[Doomsday]

Barkley has the OROY wrapped up, Mayfield has been good but no where near him.

Huge Gallup fan, now they just need to find a TE to compliment him and Cooper.

 

[Bigdog]

Not all of those were on Dak.

No disrespect to you, but everything is on Dak, the economy, the crisis in the Balkans and Middle East, the weather, etc. It is all Dak’s fault (sarcasm).

 

[CATCH17]

You guys are reaching on both. That there's a real discussion about rookie of the year and that it's Daks fault Gallup isn't in this "discussion".

Not a reach at all.

WR is probably the 2nd hardest position to transition to from college to the Pro's and if he came into the league and sniffed a 1000 yards and got around 8 TD's as a rookie he would more then likely be in the DISCUSSION with Barkley and Mayfield.

 

[Clarkson]

Nobody in this league runs routes like Cooper either so stop comparing his route running to Amari Cooper.

this is the point tho. cooper, a much better all-around WR, will naturally put up better numbers than a less-good WR.
and again, i did not say gallup does not get separation or that it's a problem. lordy. i said *he does not get the same type of separation as cooper.* more separation leads to easier throws which leads to MORE throws which leads to better numbers. in the same offense, cooper will put up better numbers than gallup every. single. time. because right now, he's just a far better WR.

dak has missed gallup deep a good bit. deep throws are tougher to complete, so this will typically happen with every QB. gallup's main strength right now is deep routes. most QBs will miss a good bit of those throws. maybe dak is missing more than average; i do not know the numbers off the top of my head.

but totally, if dak hit every single time gallup's numbers would be much better. thing is, no QB hits every single time, especially on deep sideline throws, and cooper has been missed at times as well.

 

[Clarkson]

Not a reach at all.

WR is probably the 2nd hardest position to transition to from college to the Pro's and if he came into the league and sniffed a 1000 yards and got around 8 TD's as a rookie he would more then likely be in the DISCUSSION with Barkley and Mayfield.

how many rookie WRs have put up 1000+ yards and 8+ TDs?
we can even narrow it down to just 1st round picks.
then narrow it down to just 3rd round picks.
gallup is probably not one of the best rookie WRs recently drafted.

 

[CATCH17]

this is the point tho. cooper, a much better all-around WR, will naturally put up better numbers than a less-good WR.
and again, i did not say gallup does not get separation or that it's a problem. lordy. i said *he does not get the same type of separation as cooper.* more separation leads to easier throws which leads to MORE throws which leads to better numbers. in the same offense, cooper will put up better numbers than gallup every. single. time. because right now, he's just a far better WR.

dak has missed gallup deep a good bit. deep throws are tougher to complete, so this will typically happen with every QB. gallup's main strength right now is deep routes. most QBs will miss a good bit of those throws. maybe dak is missing more than average; i do not know the numbers off the top of my head.

but totally, if dak hit every single time gallup's numbers would be much better. thing is, no QB hits every single time, especially on deep sideline throws, and cooper has been missed at times as well.

Deep sideline throws are about the easiest downfield throw a QB can make. Especially to a guy running 5 yards by defenders.

 

[Clarkson]

Deep sideline throws are about the easiest downfield throw a QB can make. Especially to a guy running 5 yards by defenders.

is that why the completion% on them is significantly lower than the overall average?