Twitter: Cavanaugh: Penalties Against Cowboys are Hogwash

HungryLion

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Again, people have memories of other runners doing this, but did any change their path to run towards a defender and aim down with their helmet? I'd like to see that. I said one could debate it being called if it's inconsistent but where is the footage of other runners doing the same thing and not being flagged? by the book, you're saying this is a bad call?

It happens almost every single game. It’s been happening as long as I can remember. If you haven’t seen it, then you aren’t paying close attention.

Again the only alternative a runner has, than lowering their shoulder when contact is coming, is to go down or leave their bodies open to get blasted.
 

visionary

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Exactly, show me any 20 Billion dollar entity and I'll show you things getting shaded in their favor.
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In that case "things should get shaded" in favor of the most valuable franchise , No?

Struggling ........ to........ understand.......



Oh wait
It's a conspiracy

I got it :facepalm::muttley:
 

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It happens almost every single game. It’s been happening as long as I can remember. If you haven’t seen it, then you aren’t paying close attention.

Again the only alternative a runner has, than lowering their shoulder when contact is coming, is to go down or leave their bodies open to get blasted.

You're right, I don't pay attention to that very specific penalty not being called unless an announcer says, "Hey, that guy should be flagged for spearing." Neither does anyone else but yet have memories of it occurring in every game. Does PI or chop blocks occur in every game also? All i hear is vagueness with no video. This is why I produce video to back any claim I have.
 

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In that case "things should get shaded" in favor of the most valuable franchise , No?

Struggling ........ to........ understand.......



Oh wait
It's a conspiracy

I got it :facepalm::muttley:

Right? It defies logic.

Cowboys = ratings
Ratings help pad Network deals, which is where the NFL makes their bread and butter
Cowboys in the playoffs = more ratings for more weeks to get more bread and butter

"But nah, let's screw the Cowboys because we hate yucky money. That's not our intent at all. We just want to showcase gladiators of the gridiron and make people happy .... except Cowboys fans"
 
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Right? It defies logic.

Cowboys = ratings.
Ratings help pad Network deals, which is where the NFL makes their bread and butter.
Cowboys in the playoffs = more ratings for more weeks to get more bread and butter.

"But nah, let's screw the Cowboys because we hate yucky money. That's not our intent at all. We just want to showcase gladiators of the gridiron and make people happy .... except Cowboys fans"

To be fair @Kaiser also believes Jerry is a good GM, Garrett is a great HC and Dak is a great QB

So there is that
 

MarcusRock

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To be fair @Kaiser also believes Jerry is a good GM, Garrett is a great HC and Dak is a great QB

So there is that

LOL. He's also a liar. I busted him trying to boost a CONSPIRACY! theory with some made up claim (LINK).
Now he's just one of my fan bois following me around from thread to thread to make up for being outed, lol.
 

Kaiser

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Cowboys in the playoffs = more ratings for more weeks to get more bread and butter

Cowboys in the playoffs = less ratings than having all 32 teams evenly matched and playing very close games every week.

I'm sure you missed it but things like the Salary Cap go back 25 years and the NFL is about parity. Dallas fans make up maybe 10% of the total number of fans, its spectacularly bad math to think that small fraction drives the train.
 

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LOL. He's also a liar.

You have absolutely no clue about statistics, which is why you don't understand the numbers. The fact you won't try to understand doesn't make anyone else a liar.
 

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You're right, I don't pay attention to that very specific penalty not being called unless an announcer says, "Hey, that guy should be flagged for spearing." Neither does anyone else but yet have memories of it occurring in every game. Does PI or chop blocks occur in every game also? All i hear is vagueness with no video. This is why I produce video to back any claim I have.

You honestly need video posted of running backs lowering their shoulders into a defender?

I mean are you really going to play the babe in the woods routine like it doesn’t happen all the time and you’ve never noticed it?
 

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2 out of 14 games doesn't disprove anything. Especially when there were the same types of calls against the Cowboys in both. You're forgetting that refs are also incompetent, and just make bad calls. No amount of tinfoil hat theories changes that.

But there's just no logic to say that Tyron is getting called for the same blocking he's always done, routinely, and opponents go 8 games without at least 1 holding call, for the second year in a row. That's either the most unlikely coincidence of all time, or something is amiss.
There’s no doubt the refs are incompetent. I think it’s a combination of horrible rules, new rules, subjective rules and these geriatric officials that make most games unwatchable. But to think they all, or even one official, is in cahoots with one or a group of other officials and have a conference call before every game to make sure Tyron gets a holding call is ridiculous.

You also said a “100% bias against the Cowboys” which would imply that other teams don’t get bad calls which you already acknowledged that Philly and New Orleans did. There’s bad calls for both teams and ALL teams in the the NFL every game, some are worse than others. Ie the Eagles non recovered fumble hurt much more then the ~7 more calls the Cowboys had against them.

As mentioned earlier, the Cowboys are one of the least penalized teams in the league but their opponents are as well, or something like that...point being, its LEAGUE wide, not exclusive to the just the Cowboys. No matter how much you cherry pick each statistic, there’s plenty more to contradict that.

So to say there is 100% bias against the Cowboys is laughable.
 

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You honestly need video posted of running backs lowering their shoulders into a defender?

I mean are you really going to play the babe in the woods routine like it doesn’t happen all the time and you’ve never noticed it?

So far I see video of Zeke doing it. As I said, I don't pay attention to other games that closely to see if that wasn't called or a chop block wasn't called. If it happens every game then surely there's one of our opponent doing it to us. That'd be easy enough to find to back one's claim I'd think. Surprised no one pulled a play from that same Philly game to prove Zeke got "robbed."
 

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The excess of penalties against the Cowboys have been tough to digest, no doubt. I have to wonder what's being said in the NFL hierarchy to influence the refs to make some of our flags so questionable. Let's hope it won't continue any longer. The spanking should have been sufficient by now!
 

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There's no conspiracy....the lack of holding calls on our d-line just correlates exactly when Goddell and Jones were bickering with each other over Goddell's contract.
Yeah it's just a coincidence.
 

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There's no conspiracy....the lack of holding calls on our d-line just correlates exactly when Goddell and Jones were bickering with each other over Goddell's contract.
Yeah it's just a coincidence.

A measly 200 Million dollars coming between a stateman like Goodell and NFL decisions that are made with the wisdom of Solomon?

Pish posh.
 

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@percyhoward You posted last year that the run of judgement non-calls on holding had only happened one other time in NFL history (to the Bronchos), could you confirm that? I looked for the thread twice but don't find it.

Also if you could confirm that the stretch of non-calls was statistically significant, not that the person here knocking it will understand stats.
 

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Show the evidence of the opponents not getting called whereas we do get called in games. For every one, you can show the opposite where we benefit as well. Maybe, just maybe, refs miss and make bad calls everywhere. You'd have to observe every single game played to gather "proof" or you're just running with 1/32nds of data and forming a theory. Not very scientific.

You are not going to get a smoking gun if that's what you are looking for, but I posted the numbers. The Cowboys penalized 88 times their opponents only 69, the fewest for any team in the league. The next closest team is 77. That's a 10% difference. This in and of itself is not a fingerprint or DNA at the crime scene, but it is circumstantial evidence. When you add in some of the other calls against Dallas, like the long snapper moving the football this year, it does make you wonder.

Do I think the refs are deliberately calling penalties on Dallas and not on other teams? I have no proof of that. What I do know is that an extremely low number of penalties called against opponents is statistical evidence of something. Does anyone dispute that certain QBs get the calls while others don't? That some basketball never get called for charging fouls? That some pitchers get a wider strike zone from certain umpires? Can't prove any of it, but we all know it happens. So why is it so hard to believe that Cowboys don't get the breaks from some of the refs, maybe even most of the refs, that other teams get?
 
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