Do some Cowboys fans really think one-and-done is the same as missing the playoffs?

[JMech]

It is not the same at all. It is much worse to be a one and done again when it extends our mediocrity for another 5 years. Wasting more players careers.

Bingo we have a winner. In the NFL careers are short. You don't waste opportunities with good players in place. Please don't start with the we don't have a QB BS, because we know we have enough to win. We have for years. We simply have no coaching. What a shame.

 

[dagreat1_87]

With the way this team has played at times, i think we have the potential to win more than one playoff game.... However, with the way this team has played at times, I could also easily see us being unprepared and one and done.... If we back into the playoffs, and then are destroyed in our first game... Then I don't consider this a successful year

 

[JW82]

Bingo we have a winner. In the NFL careers are short. You don't waste opportunities with good players in place. Please don't start with the we don't have a QB BS, because we know we have enough to win. We have for years. We simply have no coaching. What a shame.

Its a process...if they could just get their hands on that 2 or 3 year plan that the Eagles, Rams, have and scrap our 37 year plan we might live long enough to see a real contender!!

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

I can think back to 1976 and remember when I played pee-wee football. The team I was on stunk and won maybe 1 game. At the end of season banquet we all received participation trophies and I thought it was dumb since the team sucked and hadn't won anything. Being satisfied with 8-8. 9-7, or one and done brings about basically the same feeling. Why be satisfied and accept your trophy when you didn't win anything?

Guess that makes me a hater because I'm not happy with 4th, 5th, or 6th place and want the big prize instead.

When you lack ambition guess where you will finish?

That's why James Harrison is my type of man. He will not let his son except an participation award for finishing last, just so everyone can get a trophy.

 

[Melonfeud]

Seems like a prime example of Sour Grapes, but very often on this message board and elsewhere you will see some Cowboys fans saying, "Oh well, even if we make the playoffs, we'll just be one-and-done, so it makes no difference."

Sure, maybe they are hoping that the Cowboys fail to make the playoffs, so that Garrett and Linehan are fired. That is a rational motive, and I hope to see the Clap and Linehan both gone - but that isn't what these fans are saying; they're saying anything less than a Super Bowl championship, is all equal in terms of failure.

Don't know how many fans think this way, but IMHO there is a very clear difference between failure to make the playoffs, and making the playoffs but losing the first playoff game. The latter is still more of a success than the former. Otherwise, are people arguing there literally is no difference, success-wise, between 2015 and 2016?

Bro!, my rucksack of heavily over laden & of unbalanced weight distribution in the post season FANDOM dept., seemingly has became a comfortable fit,,, Our Offensive Output is Obscenely OSH-GOSH (yeppers,bib-overall SIMPLE) BY-GOSH,,, even those Indianapolis Colts from the Klan Rally birthplace of Hicksville Hooterstan,,, SHOP ELSEWHERE for GAMEDAY ATTIRE

* of course our goal is to assemble a dominant team during the offseason,,, post season?,,,*

 

[Roadtrip635]

Is it the exact same? Of course not...but I don’t think anyone should be satisfied or happy with just making the playoffs either. Losing in the WC Round is still a failure of a season in my book.

They just want to get their complaining in early, to beat the rush.

 

[Melonfeud]

I think they have a lot in place but I agree with you.

* that Colts game keelhauled my swelled head of " can-do fandom" as I was starting to catch fire in the thinking this franchises currently fielded unit could possibly land in the conference championship,,, SHEESE!

 

[Pants]

how would the fans of KC, LAR, NO, feel about one and done....if you don't have the expectation of playing in february, then your expectation is wrong....the only, I mean ONLY thing a one-and-done can do for you is if you are hanging around people that are fans of the other NFCE teams and even that isn't much to hang your hat on

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Oh what is worse is that people are hoping for playoff failure simply because they hate Dak Prescott.

 

[Brax]

Seems like a prime example of Sour Grapes, but very often on this message board and elsewhere you will see some Cowboys fans saying, "Oh well, even if we make the playoffs, we'll just be one-and-done, so it makes no difference."

Sure, maybe they are hoping that the Cowboys fail to make the playoffs, so that Garrett and Linehan are fired. That is a rational motive, and I hope to see the Clap and Linehan both gone - but that isn't what these fans are saying; they're saying anything less than a Super Bowl championship, is all equal in terms of failure.

Don't know how many fans think this way, but IMHO there is a very clear difference between failure to make the playoffs, and making the playoffs but losing the first playoff game. The latter is still more of a success than the former. Otherwise, are people arguing there literally is no difference, success-wise, between 2015 and 2016?

It must be a generational thing, anything less than playing in the conference championship game and winning is a failure, if the fan base accept anything less than the Superbowl it should be viewed as failure, do not buy into Jerry's sick mentality of "this team is special" every year, participation trophies are for losers and losing has been the key word around here the last 20 years. This doesn't mean you can't enjoy the games,Cubs, Red Sox, Browns still have a lot of fans, who knows Jerry may get lucky and get to the Superbowl some year but with him as GM it would be blind luck, enjoy the game, if there is a playoff game in the future we will see starting today. Merry Christmas.

 

[MojaveJT]

Obviously making it into the playoffs is better than not making it all.

But ask any player what the ultimate goal is. Making it to the championship game and ultimately winning it. To give it all for 16 games and then bounced out the first week of playoffs is a tough pill to swallow.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

how would the fans of KC, LAR, NO, feel about one and done....if you don't have the expectation of playing in february, then your expectation is wrong....the only, I mean ONLY thing a one-and-done can do for you is if you are hanging around people that are fans of the other NFCE teams and even that isn't much to hang your hat on

You cannot expect to play in Feb if you don't even make it to the damn dance. It isn't that hard to figure out and in a league where anyone can win on any given Sunday there is no such thing as a lock or a sure win. Everyone thought the Cowboys were going to be destroyed by the Saints, instead they pulled off a win. Everyone thought the Titans would lose to the Cowboys, instead we lost. Matchups matter, how the team responds matters. You can scream out all the stats and throw for millions or yards and TD's but at the end of the day the only bloody thing that matters is the W-L and teams this year have won in instances where QB's have had less than 200 yards passing.

Personally, I don't think it is possible for you to wait to have the perfect team to make a playoff and SB push. You aren't ever going to have that in this league. You do the best you can with the team you have. Waiting till you have the second coming of Joe Montana isn't going to work. You see people on this board all the time proclaiming that we need to tank next season so we can get the QB from Alabama - as if he is a sure thing. About a million things could happen between now and then including the QB from Alabama getting hit by a bus and leaving him in a wheelchair or worse. Tank the season because somehow the guy you pick is going to be a sure fire HOF QB, which no thought that there is just as high a likelihood that he will be a bust.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Obviously making it into the playoffs is better than not making it all.

But ask any player what the ultimate goal is. Making it to the championship game and ultimately winning it. To give it all for 16 games and then bounced out the first week of playoffs is a tough pill to swallow.

Every team starts out the season with the goal of making it to the big dance. Every team that makes it to the playoffs have the same goal of making it to the SB. Regardless of the weaknesses and their shortcomings, every team is playing for that end.

 

[Flamma]

Seems like a prime example of Sour Grapes, but very often on this message board and elsewhere you will see some Cowboys fans saying, "Oh well, even if we make the playoffs, we'll just be one-and-done, so it makes no difference."

Sure, maybe they are hoping that the Cowboys fail to make the playoffs, so that Garrett and Linehan are fired. That is a rational motive, and I hope to see the Clap and Linehan both gone - but that isn't what these fans are saying; they're saying anything less than a Super Bowl championship, is all equal in terms of failure.

Don't know how many fans think this way, but IMHO there is a very clear difference between failure to make the playoffs, and making the playoffs but losing the first playoff game. The latter is still more of a success than the former. Otherwise, are people arguing there literally is no difference, success-wise, between 2015 and 2016?

I can't speak for anyone else but let me try to explain the mindset you're talking about. At least from my perspective. There are seasons where a team can make the playoffs but we all know they're not going anywhere, like the 1999 and 2006 Cowboys, borderline trash and nothing to get excited about. Forget the record, after watching an entire season you know how good that team is and their chances. So it's not really whether or not they make the playoffs, but a fans opinion of their team's realistic chance to do anything in the playoffs.

 

[Pants]

You cannot expect to play in Feb if you don't even make it to the damn dance. It isn't that hard to figure out and in a league where anyone can win on any given Sunday there is no such thing as a lock or a sure win. Everyone thought the Cowboys were going to be destroyed by the Saints, instead they pulled off a win. Everyone thought the Titans would lose to the Cowboys, instead we lost. Matchups matter, how the team responds matters. You can scream out all the stats and throw for millions or yards and TD's but at the end of the day the only bloody thing that matters is the W-L and teams this year have won in instances where QB's have had less than 200 yards passing.

Personally, I don't think it is possible for you to wait to have the perfect team to make a playoff and SB push. You aren't ever going to have that in this league. You do the best you can with the team you have. Waiting till you have the second coming of Joe Montana isn't going to work. You see people on this board all the time proclaiming that we need to tank next season so we can get the QB from Alabama - as if he is a sure thing. About a million things could happen between now and then including the QB from Alabama getting hit by a bus and leaving him in a wheelchair or worse. Tank the season because somehow the guy you pick is going to be a sure fire HOF QB, which no thought that there is just as high a likelihood that he will be a bust.

oh, I agree....but making it in and being satisfied does not work for me...I am not of the ilk to tank to get a specific player...Dallas has been building a very good team through the draft; they put some thought into the future and have drafted well...now if they could only have the "future" approach with the coaching staff....

Note: the Alabama QB is little and doesn't translate well to the NFL - I just can't see it....NOT a fan of most Alabama players in the NFL (Cooper being an exception)....most don't seem to play well once they are out of the Alabama environment - perhaps they play by different rules there in Tuscaloosa than what they have in place in the NFL? I dunno....

 

[Rockport]

Seems like a prime example of Sour Grapes, but very often on this message board and elsewhere you will see some Cowboys fans saying, "Oh well, even if we make the playoffs, we'll just be one-and-done, so it makes no difference."

Sure, maybe they are hoping that the Cowboys fail to make the playoffs, so that Garrett and Linehan are fired. That is a rational motive, and I hope to see the Clap and Linehan both gone - but that isn't what these fans are saying; they're saying anything less than a Super Bowl championship, is all equal in terms of failure.

Don't know how many fans think this way, but IMHO there is a very clear difference between failure to make the playoffs, and making the playoffs but losing the first playoff game. The latter is still more of a success than the former. Otherwise, are people arguing there literally is no difference, success-wise, between 2015 and 2016?

Two things. First and foremost its totally irrational to hope the team loses so that a coach will get fired. That’s just ridiculous but I know there are several who want that to happen. Second, those same fans are the ones saying the team is a failure unless they win the Super Bowl. The goal every year is to win the SB, but having success in the playoffs can be a building block for the next year.

 

[MojaveJT]

Every team starts out the season with the goal of making it to the big dance. Every team that makes it to the playoffs have the same goal of making it to the SB. Regardless of the weaknesses and their shortcomings, every team is playing for that end.

Which is what my point was in regards to the OP. One and done in the playoffs = failure to the coaches and players. Fans can think whatever they want.

 

[MikeT22]

Maybe some people enjoy the off-season so much that it's better to be eliminated from the playoffs early to get a jump on all that draft talk.

What? No Cowboys fan is rooting to be one and done just because it's normally the case.

If we made the playoffs and lost early it'd be nice if we built off of it, but we never do.

'07 - Homefield advantage one and done....
'08 - missed playoffs
'09 - Win wildcard game and then lose to Vikings ...
'10 - Wade is fired mid-season and we miss playoffs
'11 - Lose season finale 'win or go home' game
'12 - Lose season finale 'win or go home' game
'13 - Lose season finale 'win or go home' game
'14 - Win wildcard then lose to GB
'15 - Miss playoffs
'16 - Homefield and then one and done
'17 - Miss playoffs
'18 - ?

Starting in Garrett's first full year in 2011 we've had 6 do or die 'win or go home' games (playoffs or season finale) and we're 1-5 in them.

No one is rooting for that, it's just fact.

 

[JayFord]

While I don't think we're on the same level as a few of the playoff teams, I think this team is capable talent wise, (key word: capable) of beating most the teams in the playoffs. Our defense is championship level and that alone gives us a decent chance.

Were capable talent wise with the best teams

However its mental with us....we look like monsters in between the 20s then in the redzone they drop their pants and go “DEEEEEE DURRRRR I PLAAAYYY FOOSEEEBALL HAAAAA DURRRR”

 

[khiladi]

As Cowboys fans, anything other than a SB is a joke. One and done is only tolerable when it shows you made progress from last year.