Video: Troy Aikman on accuracy: You either have it or you don't

[Pass2Run]

You can look up any stats you want and fawn over a dink and dunk passer's completion percentage or fewer INT's. You're comparing Dak to a guy that was that was one of the most accurate passers in the NFL up to that point. He also played in an era where guys like Ronnie Lott and Darren Woodson roamed the secondary waiting to destroy WR's unlike today's offense friendly game.

I'd even venture to guess Dak has a better completion and INT percentage that Staubauch so you might as well throw him into your silly analysis. I know you've never seen Aikman or Staubauch play, because no on in their right minds would compare any of those QB's, their game or their stats, to a dink and dunker like Prescott. I can't even believe anyone would have this discussion because it's so delusional.

Put it this way, since you are apparently still stuck in that era.

In his first three years, Dak has totaled 3,667 yards in 2016, then 3,324 yards passing and now has 3,488 yards passing, all from his "dink and dunk" passes.

Aikman totalled 3,400 yards in a season once, in 1992 when he threw for 3,445 yards.

So, this year, Dak has already surpassed Aikman's best year in total yards.

From "dink and dunk" passes, and no Irvin or Novecek.

You can be stuck in that era all you want and talk about nostalgia and what not.

Doesn't make you right.

The numbers say you are wrong, and entirely misguided, most likely because you are still stuck in the 1990s.

By golly, you watched football that long ago.. the game couldn't possibly be evolving and passing you by....

 

[Pass2Run]

Do you know, Dak has more yards already this year than Aikman had in a year in his career ever?

And Dak still has one more game left to play.

How's that for "dink and dunk" and an "inaccurate quarterback"?

Cowboys fans make it a habit to be stuck in the past, dwelling on old dogmatic nostalgia about the 90s, when the game has evolved.

Oh, well, Ignorance is bliss.

Those who perpetually criticize Dak, because he's not Romo, don't know what they're talking about.

 

[Dodger12]

By the way, Aikman had one year in his whole career with a higher completion percentage than Dak has right now.

In 1993, Aikman had a completion percentage of 69.1%

In Aikman's 12 years as a QB, his rate was above 60% only half of those years.

The other half he was in the 50 percentile range.

How bout them apples?

Troy Aikman "on accuracy."

In 17 years, Dan Marino, one of the greatest statistical QB's of all time, "only" had better than a 60% completion percentage 5 times; in 16 years, John Elway had better than a 60% completion percentage 3 times. In 15 years, Dan Fouts had better than a 60% completion percentage 5 times. In 11 years, Roger Staubauch had better than a 60% completion percentage 1 time. In 11 years, Jim Kelly had better than a 60% completion percentage 4 times. In 14 years, Terry Bradshaw never had a season where completed more than 60% of his passes. Do you see a pattern here? And all those guys are Hall of Fame QB's.

About the only exception(s) were QB's who played in a West Coast offense that favored short passes. The fact that Aikman was anywhere near 70% for the was utterly unheard of in that day. He was one of the most accurate QB's to ever play the game. That's not even debatable.

How about them apples?

 

[Pass2Run]

If guys like Aikman, Young, Montana and others from that era played in today's NFL, their numbers would be off the charts.

Here's another stat for you know-it-alls stuck in the 1990s.

Aikman averaged 7 yards a pass for his entire career.

Dak is averaging 7.3 so far in his career, which is more than Aikman.

So, what's going to happen when Dak learns how to ball, like a real quarterback?

 

[Dodger12]

Put it this way, since you are apparently still stuck in that era.

In his first three years, Dak has totaled 3,667 yards in 2016, then 3,324 yards passing and now has 3,488 yards passing, all from his "dink and dunk" passes.

Aikman totalled 3,400 yards in a season once, in 1992 when he threw for 3,445 yards.

So, this year, Dak has already surpassed Aikman's best year in total yards.

From "dink and dunk" passes, and no Irvin or Novecek.

You can be stuck in that era all you want and talk about nostalgia and what not.

Doesn't make you right.

The numbers say you are wrong, and entirely misguided, most likely because you are still stuck in the 1990s.

By golly, you watched football that long ago.. the game couldn't possibly be evolving and passing you by....

And yet, with all those silly stats you're chewing on, Dak still ranks at the lower half compared to his contemporaries. In that era, Aikman was a top 5 passer during his SB years and #4 passer in 1992, if I remember correctly.

 

[tyke1doe]

Do you know, Dak has more yards already this year than Aikman had in a year in his career ever?

And Dak still has one more game left to play.

How's that for "dink and dunk" and an "inaccurate quarterback"?

Cowboys fans make it a habit to be stuck in the past, dwelling on old dogmatic nostalgia about the 90s, when the game has evolved.

Oh, well, Ignorance is bliss.

Those who perpetually criticize Dak, because he's not Romo, don't know what they're talking about.

If you believe Dak is a better quarterback than Aikman, I ain't the one who's ignorant.

 

[Dodger12]

Here's another stat for you know-it-alls stuck in the 1990s.

Aikman averaged 7 yards a pass for his entire career.

Dak is averaging 7.3 so far in his career, which is more than Aikman.

So, what's going to happen when Dak learns how to ball, like a real quarterback?

You can argue all you want but anyone that knows anything about the game and didn't start watching it a couple of years ago knows that "era" matters. You're having a silly discussion and by your metrics, Dak is "better" than many, if not most, of the modern era QB's in the Hall of Fame.

 

[Tabascocat]

You can argue all you want but anyone that knows anything about the game and didn't start watching it a couple of years ago knows that "era" matters. You're having a silly discussion and by your metrics, Dak is "better" than many, if not most, of the modern era QB's in the Hall of Fame.

Dodger, you can't argue with people who have to tear down our greats to prop up their boy Dak. Most of us know that it was a different game back then as it is now.

I like Dak but he should not be compared to Aikman in any way, shape or form

 

[Pass2Run]

In 17 years, Dan Marino, one of the greatest statistical QB's of all time, "only" had better than a 60% completion percentage 5 times; in 16 years, John Elway had better than a 60% completion percentage 3 times. In 15 years, Dan Fouts had better than a 60% completion percentage 5 times. In 11 years, Roger Staubauch had better than a 60% completion percentage 1 time. In 11 years, Jim Kelly had better than a 60% completion percentage 4 times. In 14 years, Terry Bradshaw never had a season where completed more than 60% of his passes. Do you see a pattern here? And all those guys are Hall of Fame QB's.

About the only exception(s) were QB's who played in a West Coast offense that favored short passes. The fact that Aikman was anywhere near 70% for the was utterly unheard of in that day. He was one of the most accurate QB's to ever play the game. That's not even debatable.

How about them apples?
.

Welp, it looks to me like them apples are still stuck in the 1990s, or before.

I'm just keeping in the present time, which says that no matter how much the 1990s fanboys are stuck in the glory days of the 1990s, statistically, Dak is outperforming Aikman back then.

Tony did the same thing, but the same fans who are talking about how great Aikman is now would call you crazy or mock you for thinking Tony was as good, or better than, Aikman.

You can talk about rings all you want, but Troy didn't get those on his own. There were 53 other players who contributed to those rings...good players.

The truth is, you guys aren't seeing what you think you're seeing with Dak.

The things you say give you away that some of you aren't being objective about Dak.

The same people saying Dak throws all "dink and dunk" passes will go say Aikman was the guy making the kinds of passes Cowboy fans want to see.

But Dak is performing better thank Aikman, per pass.

You, or everyone else parroting the term "dink and dunk" doesn't make you right.

It makes you a parrot, repeating things that aren't true for your ego, for who knows why.

The statistics don't lie..

It makes you look like you think things should be how you think they ought to be, because you were a fan back in the day. And those were the good old days.

Nobody player could be as good as the players from the era you grew up watching.. The world revolves around your false assumptions about the glory days... The players just can't be as good as they were back then,

Wrong, actually.

Dak is better, thus far in his career if we're being truthful. If we're being objective.

Romo averaged 219.1 yards passing per game.

Dak is averaging 223 yards passing per game.

You can't ignore his production.

The lack of production in the redzone isn't his fault....

You also can't ignore that he produces on the level of Romo in terms of yards.

And he throws less interceptions.

It's crazy fans don't see, or don't want to see, what's sitting right in front of them.

Dak is legit.

Being stuck in the nostalgia of the 1990s was not only detrimental to our team evolving as fast as it should have after the Aikman era, it's detrimental to fans' ability to recognize a good player..

Some of you guys don't want to recognize new players because they don't live up to the images fans have in their heads about what the talents of new players should look like, because new players don't do exactly what old ones did.

There's a reason we've been losers for so long, with no championship, our growth was ******** by Jerry doing the same things fans today still haven't snapped out of, living in glory days of the past rather than evolving and moving forward.

 

[Dodger12]

Welp, it looks to me like them apples are still stuck in the 1990s, or before.

I'm just keeping in the present time, which says that no matter how much the 1990s fanboys are stuck in the glory days of the 1990s, statistically, Dak is outperforming Aikman back then.

Tony did the same thing, but the same fans who are talking about how great Aikman is now would call you crazy or mock you for thinking Tony was as good, or better than, Aikman.

You can talk about rings all you want, but Troy didn't get those on his own.

The truth is, you guys aren't seeing what you think you're seeing .

The same people saying Dak throws all "dink and dunk" passes will go say Aikman was the guy making the kinds of passes Cowboy fans want to see.

But Dak is performing better thank Aikman, per pass.

You, or everyone else parroting the term "dink and dunk" doesn't make you right.

It makes you a parrot, repeating things that aren't true for your ego, for who knows why.

The statistics don't lie..

It makes you look like you think things should be how you think they ought to be, because you were a fan back in the day. And those were the good old days.

Nobody player could be as good as the players from the era you grew up watching.. The world revolves around your false assumptions about the glory days... The players just can't be as good as they were back then,

Wrong, actually.

Dak is better, thus far in his career if we're being truthful. If we're being objective.

Romo averaged 219.1 yards passing per game.

Dak is averaging 223 yards passing per game.

You can't ignore his production.

The lack of production in the redzone isn't his fault....

You also can't ignore that he produces on the level of Romo in terms of yards.

And he throws less interceptions.

As far as Troy, he has rings. But there were 53 other players who contributed to those rings...good players.

It's crazy fans don't see, or don't want to see, what's sitting right in front of them.

Dak is legit.

Being stuck in the nostalgia of the 1990s was not only detrimental to our team evolving as fast as it should have after the Aikman era, it's detrimental to fans' ability to recognize a good player..

Some of you guys don't want to recognize new players because they don't live up to the images fans have in their heads about what the talents of new players should look like, because new players don't do exactly what old ones did.

There's a reason we've been losers for so long, with no championship, our growth was ******** by Jerry doing the same things fans today still haven't snapped out of, living in glory days of the past rather than evolving and moving forward.

Do you realize that out of 33 rated QB's so far this this year, 30 have completion percentages above 60%? That includes the likes of Bortles, Keenum, Mullens, and Dalton. Think about that for a second. You can go ahead and argue with yourself but Dak isn't even rated well compared to his peers this year; he's 16th in yards and 19th in QBR compared to his peers this year. And you want to compare him to Hall of Famer's. Utterly delusional.

 

[Pass2Run]

Do you realize that out of 33 rated QB's so far this this year, 30 have completion percentages above 60%? That includes the likes of Bortles, Keenum, Mullens, and Dalton. Think about that for a second. You can go ahead and argue with yourself but Dak isn't even rated well compared to his peers this year; he's 16th in yards and 19th in QBR compared to his peers this year. And you want to compare him to Hall of Famer's. Utterly delusional.

Do you realize that 69.1% is the all-time highest percentage held by Drew Brees, the statistical king of accuracy.

Dak is trailing behind the all-time accuracy leader's all-time average by less than 1% at 68.3%.

Yes, at a time when Brees has a whopping 74.4%.

But he's been playing in the league for how long?

I guess when your barometer is always 1990s Cowboys, and Aikman, you are unable to see what is right in front of you.

It's simple to me. Dak has potential and talent...

Today's game, on the whole, has better quarterbacks in general anyway than back then, in part because the game has evolved into a passing league, but mostly because the population has grown, so chances are better players will emerge from a larger population.

 

[johnnygt]

Dodger, he’s the one stuck comparing today’s qbs to the 90’s not you. Dak fits right into the greats of the 90s but the probablem is where the players rank with peers In the era. Also the tony Romo 219 is misleading. Percy and jump in and explain it better then I can. Put it this way dak is putting up 90 numbers in pass happy non contact with the WR’s era.

 

[Pass2Run]

Do you realize that out of 33 rated QB's so far this this year, 30 have completion percentages above 60%? That includes the likes of Bortles, Keenum, Mullens, and Dalton. Think about that for a second. You can go ahead and argue with yourself but Dak isn't even rated well compared to his peers this year; he's 16th in yards and 19th in QBR compared to his peers this year. And you want to compare him to Hall of Famer's. Utterly delusional.

Go look at Acheman's stats from 89-91...

It took some time for him to develop, too, although I realize Troy was ahead of the curve compared to most QBs developmental level.

Fact is, Dak isn't Aikman and there won't ever be another Aikman or Romo.

It's cool. People said the same kinds of things to me during Romo's first few years.

Lots of those laughing emoticons and everything, like Tyke1doe posted.. I don't think they've changed.

Thirteen years later, I'm the one who gets a little chuckle looking back now.

Oh, well. Have fun hating a young player...for not living up to your perfect standard of the 90s.

I'm glad we picked Dak.

If we hadn't, where would we be right now?

We're heading to the playoffs, and some of y'all still act like Daks comes over and kicks your dog once a week.

 

[DallasEast]

My opinion: Passing accuracy is a quarterback's ability to throw a catchable ball within a receiver's catch radius while avoiding direct interference from a defender.

Let's play a game (shaddup Antonio Banderas!)

Take two or more quarterbacks of your choosing. Write each quarterback's name and include a numbered list of 1 through 9 directly below each name. Example:

Each number coincides with the particular receiving route shown below. For example, #4 for each quarterback's list is the Curl route.

Here is the game's (not practice or warmups) scenario. Imagine it is any down and the offensive line is providing excellent protection but the quarterback must throw the pass to the receiver within a maximum of 4 seconds of the snap.

Using your personal perception of each quarterback's passing accuracy, assign one point for each route the quarterback can routinely throw a catchable pass regardless if the receiver drops the pass. Assign zero for each route the quarterback cannot routinely throw a catchable pass regardless if the receiver drops the pass. Then add the number of points for each individual list and arrive at a total for each quarterback. Example:

Quarterback Z
1. 1
2. 1
3. 0
4. 1
5. 1
6. 0
7. 1
8. 1
9. 0

Total: 6 points

Let's define routinely as throwing more catchable than uncatchable passes. For the purposes of the game, establish 2 or more catchable passes out of a total of 3 total passes thrown to each route as routine. Conversely, 1 or zero catchable passes out of 3 total passes is not routine.

The quarterback with the most points has demonstrated to you how accurate he is by comparison to other quarterbacks based on your own perception.

Please remember one thing. It is only a game.

 

[Pass2Run]

Dodger, you can't argue with people who have to tear down our greats to prop up their boy Dak. Most of us know that it was a different game back then as it is now.

I like Dak but he should not be compared to Aikman in any way, shape or form

I wasn't tearing him down.

Acheman was good, but he got sacked a lot, like Dak.

Like I said, I realize he was ahead of the curve as far as developing...But it took him a while to develop too.

And he had a real coach....

That's the other thing you guys leave out.

Jimmy Johnson
Bill Parcells
Jason Garrett

One of those names doesn't belong in the same group/sentence as the other two coaches.

Romo and Aikman had the advantage of having a legit coach.

Sadly, Dak doesn't have that luxury.

The other thing is, and this is big for me, perpetual Dak haters (not objective critics) really have no idea what the future holds for Dak, not even as far forward as even this year.

Yet if you ask them, they are certain his storybook has ended and he's already lost in the playoff before we even play the game(s).

Developing quarterbacks takes time, thus patience if you want to do it right.

 

[Pass2Run]

If you believe Dak is a better quarterback than Aikman, I ain't the one who's ignorant.

That's the other thing the Dak "haters" do....

Make stuff up.

You said that, not me.

I said in today's era, he may be... And may means it could turn out that he would be better, but in a strictly hypothetical situation.

But may also means maybe not.

Fact is, you can't compare the two.

One is done with his career, and one is getting started.

But I think it's possible, maybe even more likely than not, Dak will one day be talked about among the same names as Aikman, Romo, White, Staubach, etc.

Acheman was a good player, but the only reason he made the implication about accuracy was to stroke his ego. The implication being, "I was accurate, he's not."

Don't let Troy's reputation as an "accurate" quarterback fool you into thinking he never made an inaccurate pass...Troy was a good player, but he's a doofus in the booth and has been ever since he got the gig.

 

[Pass2Run]

Not every HOFer agrees with the other HOFers. See my sig from another HOF Dallas QB.

It's called opinions. Not facts, opinions.

Even Troy has been flip floppity with his opinion on Dak. Just read his comments on Dak after the second Eagles game:

“When you start evaluating Dak Prescott and whether to sign him to the big contract, which Jerry has already said he’s going to do, that’s a big factor in that,” Aikman said. “Not only how he’s playing but also does he have the makeup to be able to handle thing when it’s not going well?

“As a quarterback, I know those are tough Monday mornings. But I’ve said it many, many times: Dak’s the last guy that I’d worry about within that organization when it comes to those types of things.

"He’s a terrific guy. I think the world of him and wouldn’t hesitate one minute in having him continue to be the face of the franchise.”

So which Troy opinion is "more" correct?

1. Dak will never be accurate because either a QB has it or not?
2. Dak should be the face of the Dallas Cowboys franchise?

Then remember when Troy said the whole organization need to be blown up and restructured when it was 3-5.

While I will not disagree that there are PARTS of the org that should be replaced, its kind of hard to do the WHOLE org when they have produced division champs in 3 of the last 5 years.

So in closing, Troy has his opinion, good for him. You agree with Troy, good for you. I have my opinions, good for me.

But at the end of the day, Troy's, yours and my opinion means exactly jack-squat when it comes to the DC FO.

And as it should be since not a single one of us are accountable to the Dallas Cowboys Org.

Just like I don't want your opinion to matter in the big decisions the company I work for makes. And vice-versa.

Like I said, if you know anything about psychology, Troy was referring to himself more than anything.

Troy let his ego talk for a minute, and this is what we have.

 

[Pass2Run]

Dodger, he’s the one stuck comparing today’s qbs to the 90’s not you. Dak fits right into the greats of the 90s but the probablem is where the players rank with peers In the era. Also the tony Romo 219 is misleading. Percy and jump in and explain it better then I can. Put it this way dak is putting up 90 numbers in pass happy non contact with the WR’s era.

Only a simpleton would blame Dak's league-comparative numbers only on Dak.

Again,

Jimmy Johnson
Bill Parcells
Jason Garrett

Two of those guys were legit coaches.

One of those kids is doing his own thing.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Hey, Troy, I thought you said, "You either have it or you don't?"

So......what happened to you coming out of college and during your first 2 years as a Cowboy?

Just shut it, Troy.

 

[LittleD]

It is when the focus is only on Dak’s weaknesses and not his strengths.

Way too many weaknesses and far too few strengths so far in a 3 year career for me.