Opinion: Stephen Jones comments on Dak is red flag about overpaying him on his next contract

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I learned a long time ago that you cannot argue with those who hate irrationally .......... so now I just point and laugh.

Oh yea ........... HA HA ......... Dak won again.

Have you ever been accused of arguing, rationally, yourself?
 

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Because guys like you still don't understand why he is inconsistent at times and why all of a sudden he was great in 2016 and now is playing the worst football of his career.

Are you aware of the injuries to the Oline this year? Why would you spend in FA for a center or draft one if Frederick is making a full recovery?

Well he had plenty of time in the pocket today. I wasn't even going to bring this up, since I wanted to give Dak all his props today. But what about all the bad passes he threw today that you can't blame on the line? At times today, Dak was simply bad. He overcame it. He had a great game. But well this game doesn't make me want to overpay for him.
 

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I gave the kid his props. What more would you like? I liked what I saw when he worked the pocket, or rolled out keeping his eyes down field directing his receivers and allowing them to make plays. He showed a lot of growth in these areas today.

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Sounds nice, the only problem is: if you pay dak big, it could ultimately lead us to losing more games than winning them, because of the Salary Cap and you can only pay so many players. Paying Dak the big contract, probably means that you will lose Zeek and can't get future pieces in here. So when you pay your quarterback, you better make sure he is worth it first, that he can make up for any pieces you may lose because you paid him.
Now you are a talking a whole other thing. Stephen won't let anyone get greedy because the pizza has to feed everyone. The Cowboys caps space situation is favorable to keep every one of their essential guys. And that's going to be a key objective for the next few seasons, keeping the guys they have and less about free agency.
 

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Well he had plenty of time in the pocket today. I wasn't even going to bring this up, since I wanted to give Dak all his props today. But what about all the bad passes he threw today that you can't blame on the line? At times today, Dak was simply bad. He overcame it. He had a great game. But well this game doesn't make me want to overpay for him.

You nailed it. He had plenty of time to throw today. For whatever reason. Probably the horrid Giants pass rush.

When Dak has time to throw he is as good as anyone.

You could count maybe 3 or 4 passes where he had no pressure and threw a bad ball. Happens to ever QB across the NFL every week.
 

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I have been saying exactly this ..over and over again about time on task.

These great qbs weren't great in their 3rd seasons.
Brady actually won the Super Bowl in his 3rd year. Hopefully, Dak can do the same and have the same type of career.
 

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The Dak crowd has little to add so they always go back to name calling. It's funny, because the main point being made here was that Stephen Jones, and earlier Jerry Jones, aren't helping us by drolling all over Dak like a bunch of homers, because that will drive the price up. And then there are those of us who are worried that they not really even trying to negotiate themselves a fair price and ready just to throw money at Dak. Funny how you guys don't have faith in the ownership when it comes to things like hiring coaches, but when it comes to contract negotiations, you don't mind them overspending, probably secretly because you are such big fan boys yourself that you willing to pay Dak any price anyway yourself.

Again, we are currently paying a Franchise QB for someone who's not on the team.

Most teams pay a high salary for a franchise QB, and those who don't overpay in FA (for a lesser or aging QB) and/or gamble draft resources trying to find one, just HOPING that they could land a QB. It's called business in the NFL.

The hope is that you can find success while on his rookie contract, and that you can keep drafting well to replace some of the players you will lose.

For some time now, the Cowboys have done a great/really good job in drafting and have a young, up-and-coming dynamic team with a very good QB at the helm, who might be able to do some damage in the playoffs.

But, you and your cronies are so caught up in your hate that you can't even appreciate the opportunity in front of you.

You cry about the QB, and I'll focus on the playoffs.
 

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Now you are a talking a whole other thing. Stephen won't let anyone get greedy because the pizza has to feed everyone. The Cowboys caps space situation is favorable to keep every one of their essential guys. And that's going to be a key objective for the next few seasons, keeping the guys they have and less about free agency.

Everytime I hear different analyst talk about it. They don't see how you can pay: Dak, Coop, D.Law and Zeke big contracts, especially after having just payed your OL some big contracts. The general consensus seems to bee that Zeke will be the odd man out. Because if you pay Dak a big contract. Well you going to pay D.Law since Defense is the foundation of the current cowboys. You are going to pay Coop because otherwise the Coop trade doesn't make sense. So by the time you get around to Zeke there won't be any money left. I think that is a mistake some of your guys make: because the cap looks nice now, to think that we got all the money in the world to spend and keep everyone. But that's not how it works. And the big problem is: Zeke makes Dak better. What is going to happen if we lose Zeke and those 8 man fronts are going to go away and focus in on stopping Dak? I'm wasn't even arguing here that Dak shouldn't be able to prove himself. He has next year too to do so. But I just find it foolish that so far that the biggest agents for Dak getting a huge deal have been the Jones themselves since they are bad poker players seemingly.
 

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I gave the kid his props. What more would you like? I liked what I saw when he worked the pocket, or rolled out keeping his eyes down field directing his receivers and allowing them to make plays. He showed a lot of growth in these areas today.
That’s a fair post bro
 

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Well he had plenty of time in the pocket today. I wasn't even going to bring this up, since I wanted to give Dak all his props today. But what about all the bad passes he threw today that you can't blame on the line? At times today, Dak was simply bad. He overcame it. He had a great game. But well this game doesn't make me want to overpay for him.

Lol...quarterbacks don't throw bad passes? Are you freaking dumb, or ignorant? He didn't have plenty time in the pocket today. You're a freaking joke
 

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Again, we are currently paying a Franchise QB for someone who's not on the team.

Most teams pay a high salary for a franchise QB, and those who don't overpay in FA (for a lesser or aging QB) and/or gamble draft resources trying to find one, just HOPING that they could land a QB. It's called business in the NFL.

The hope is that you can find success while on his rookie contract, and that you can keep drafting well to replace some of the players you will lose.

For some time now, the Cowboys have done a great/really good job in drafting and have a young, up-and-coming dynamic team with a very good QB at the helm, who might be able to do some damage in the playoffs.

But, you and your cronies are so caught up in your hate that you can't even appreciate the opportunity in front of you.

You cry about the QB, and I'll focus on the playoffs.

I see what people mean about Daksters bringing up irrelevant things into the argument, usually romo... Yeah, us paying a salary for a for a player who isn't here anymore, that really has any barring at all in the argument that we shouldn't overspend for Dak... And yeah lets elevate Dak for a meaningless game to being the future of the franchise, instead of letting him prove it during the playoffs against teams better than the very bad giants. That is unless you think the giants were a playoff team and this was a playoff game...
 

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Again, we are currently paying a Franchise QB for someone who's not on the team.

Most teams pay a high salary for a franchise QB, and those who don't overpay in FA (for a lesser or aging QB) and/or gamble draft resources trying to find one, just HOPING that they could land a QB. It's called business in the NFL.

The hope is that you can find success while on his rookie contract, and that you can keep drafting well to replace some of the players you will lose.

For some time now, the Cowboys have done a great/really good job in drafting and have a young, up-and-coming dynamic team with a very good QB at the helm, who might be able to do some damage in the playoffs.

But, you and your cronies are so caught up in your hate that you can't even appreciate the opportunity in front of you.

You cry about the QB, and I'll focus on the playoffs.


He's a joke
 

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Everytime I hear different analyst talk about it. They don't see how you can pay: Dak, Coop, D.Law and Zeke big contracts, especially after having just payed your OL some big contracts. The general consensus seems to bee that Zeke will be the odd man out. Because if you pay Dak a big contract. Well you going to pay D.Law since Defense is the foundation of the current cowboys. You are going to pay Coop because otherwise the Coop trade doesn't make sense. So by the time you get around to Zeke there won't be any money left. I think that is a mistake some of your guys make: because the cap looks nice now, to think that we got all the money in the world to spend and keep everyone. But that's not how it works. And the big problem is: Zeke makes Dak better. What is going to happen if we lose Zeke and those 8 man fronts are going to go away and focus in on stopping Dak? I'm wasn't even arguing here that Dak shouldn't be able to prove himself. He has next year too to do so. But I just find it foolish that so far that the biggest agents for Dak getting a huge deal have been the Jones themselves since they are bad poker players seemingly.

Our cap numbers look great going forward. Zeke isn't due for another two years. Then we can franchise him. I wouldn't worry about Zeke.

All our great lineman are tied up, no need to worry about that. After Lee and Crawford get cut this year Lawrence will be the only highly paid guy on the defense. This a good young team with a bring future with players and the cap. The only time things will get tough is if a guy like Frederick cant come back and play and you have to replace with.
 

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a very modest extension

What you guys don't understand is that modest for a QB is still like 22 million per season. It actually makes sense for us to wrap him up THIS offseason and hope for some kind of an early signing discount. If we wait until the end of next season Dak will be looking even better with growth and better Oline play. And some other middle of the road QB might get overpaid and bump up the going rate.

I know that's not what you Dak haters want, but it makes the most sense.
 

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You nailed it. He had plenty of time to throw today. For whatever reason. Probably the horrid Giants pass rush.

When Dak has time to throw he is as good as anyone.

You could count maybe 3 or 4 passes where he had no pressure and threw a bad ball. Happens to ever QB across the NFL every week.

It got us a win against the very worst team in our division that will draft high next year. It's the kind of passes that would usually lose us the game. Against a better opponent we may not have won. In the Playoffs, if we have those kind of passes we won't win. Why are you guys so eager to pay dak already and have no patience to even see if he will perform in the playoffs. If he proves himself there, then by all means pay the man. But today's game, some people seem to be acting like we just won the Super Bowl.
 
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