Aikman on Dak: He's going to be the Cowboys quarterback for a long time

[CowboyRoy]

Possibly. He'll certainly have a chance to prove himself during the playoffs. BTW anything more substantial than the blanket statements?

Hes made the playoffs 2 out of 3 years and would have been all 3 had it not been for Zeke suspension. Played great in his first playoff game, but Garrett blew it. Already has won a playoff game this year. In only 3 years in the league.

Quite frankly we dont have the team to go deep in the playoffs. Its incredible we made it this far. But he does have 7-10 years left so we shall see.

As I stated they are similar in their leadership and command and respect of teammates. Something Romo didnt grasp to this degree. At this time Dak is more of a bus driver and thats pretty much what Aikman did in a run first offense. The similarities pretty much end there.

Aikman was an immobile, highly accurate pocket passer. Dak is a dual threat QB, accuracy is not his calling card, but appears to be clutch and can carry the team when he needs to late. Aikman rarely did that.

 

[BoysForLife]

Cowboys don’t have a top 5 scoring defense you’re making crap up

If tony needs the best defense and best rushing then MAYBE that means he’s not GOOD enough to carry a team.

Rodgers
Brady
Wilson
Brees
Ben
Mannning

Never had both and won SBs

I checked and, you are correct. Dak had both in 2016, has leading rusher and *6th* ranked scoring defense this year. Huge difference.

And you are the one saying Romo had all these great teams. I'm merely noting the difference between your statements, and reality.

Rodgers, Brady, Brees, are in a league of their own. I'm not saying Romo is in their league, nor should anyone else. They are a cut above pretty much everyone.

Russell had the #2 rushing offense and the #1 scoring defense in 2013. In that Super Bowl, Seattles defense outscored Denver's offense by themselves.
I'm kind of puzzled why you mentioned that one.

 

[BoysForLife]

Men lie. Women lie. Numbers don’t. Lamar outplayed Rivers as a raw rookie

According to sniffers like you, the only number that matters is "wins".
Therefore, Rivers outplayed Lamar.
Right?

 

[DallasEast]

Thread Recap

Post #1: "First postseason win of many. I really believe that. He's [Prescott] going to be the Cowboys quarterback for a long time and he's going to find himself winning a lot of football games in January going forward" -Troy Aikman.

Post #5: Glad we finally got a real qb. Haven't had one since aikman retired.



The entire thread has been skewed towards overly zealous Romo and similar commentary nonsense ever since. Over 175 posts.

What else can be said besides THAT'S COWBOYSZONE!

 

[Mobinvans]

Oh boy, I'm off work today. I have all the time in the world. This will be my most productive 10 minutes of the day.

Now it's not on the list of rules, but I think I was told at some point that you can't call other members trolls on this website; I assume to stop people from namecalling, calling everyone they disagree with a troll, etc. Understandable (though I could be confusing it for the old DC.com forum where that was indeed a rule and I got a timeout for it numerous times for having lovely chats with my old buddy Deathvokation (@Runwildboys the good old days)). I'm not entirely positive though, so maybe one of the staff members here can clarify that for me.

So, lets just look at @Willfreedom909 's posts and decide what he is for ourselves. Looking through his profile for about 13 seconds, it seems as if every post he writes falls under one of these categories -

1) Extreme anti-Romo posts, and bringing Romo up in threads that are not about him. Insulting and arguing with people who like Romo, proclaiming in every thread that Dak has surpassed him, and Romo sucks, and he wasn't a "real QB", etc.

2) Extreme pro-Dak posts. Looking at his posts, the dude posted on Saturday for instance before the game that Dak has a better HOF case than Romo. He seems to enjoy insulting and arguing with anyone who does not like Dak. I am a Dak fan and a Romo fan, so I'm trying not to be biased here; just calling it like I see it and stating the facts.

Now, those are what the majority of his posts are themed around. Whether a thread is about Romo/Dak or not, he does on occasion force his opinions about Romo/Dak into it.

But let's not forget about the...

3) Blazing hot takes! Here are some of his I especially like. Have a peek through the profile, guys.

The ones in quotation marks are indeed exact quotes of our boi will's that I have simply copy and pasted.

Dak is better than Brady and Brees
Gallup is better than Adam Theilen
Foles is the best QB in the NFC east
Aikman would take the current Cowboys to 4-12
Lamar Jackson is the best rookie QB
Lamar Jackson should have been the #1 draft pick
Mahomes doesn't need good footwork because he is so talented
"Mayfield is a midget without the talent of Wilson or brees" (despite the fact that Mayfield is taller than both Wilson and Brees)
Blake Bortles has accomplished more than Romo
Andy Dalton "won more" than Romo
Dak is better than Staubach
Dak is better than Andrew Luck
Deshaun Watson is better than Andrew Luck
Dak is trash, but Romo was even more trash.
"Without Sean Lee, Romo would never have had a winning season" (he had a winning season every year as a starter before Lee was drafted)
"Dak most clutch qb i have ever seen in playoffs". (I especially like this one, because it was before the game against Seattle, so his sample size was literally the one playoff game in 2016)
"Brady is a trash system QB"
Dak is the best QB in the NFC east, despite later stating it's Foles
"Dak, Beasley, snake lee are all passive aggressive babys"
"Both Quincy and Dak are better talents than Romo"
"Dak sucks and is just a slightly better Romo" (???)
"Wentz still better than Romo just not as good as Dak"

Oh sweet, if you copy and paste directly from a profile it generates a link to the post.

"I would trade LVE for Ramsey in a heartbeat"
"Tom Brady is a bottom tier quarterback. Without him starting patriots are 14-5."
"Tebow still won more than Tony Romo ever did."
"Trade Cole Beasley for Antonio brown"
"Trade Cole Beasley for two first round picks"
"kellen moore was just as good as romo just never got the chance."
"Low IQ post"
"Low IQ post"
"Low IQ post low IQ post"
"I'd love Kaep to replace Dak on this team. Perfect Superbowl hardened veteran."
"Low iq thread"
"You mean Sean Lee and LVE are low IQ. Jaylon is the only linebacker between the 3 that displays he's intelligent"
"Every game is a must win if cowboys want to be serious contenders. Hope they lose though so dak, JG, and Scott linenhan can be traded away...."
"You mad? Defense LVE is expendable. I'd trade him in a heart beat if we could get a solid guy like Juju Smith Schuster."
"Low iq post"
"Lol you really are low iq."
"This is a low iq post."
"Low IQ post"
"Dak is not half as good as Cam. His arm and footwork is laughable."
"Dak is going to get around 30 million a year. He's better than 70% of QB's in the league. Dude is clutch as they come"

I'll stop there.

In conclusion, Will is one of my favorite posters, and I am so looking forward to reading more of his high iq posts.

Lol that guy us a str8 up troll man

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Hes made the playoffs 2 out of 3 years and would have been all 3 had it not been for Zeke suspension. Played great in his first playoff game, but Garrett blew it. Already has won a playoff game this year. In only 3 years in the league.

Quite frankly we dont have the team to go deep in the playoffs. Its incredible we made it this far. But he does have 7-10 years left so we shall see.

As I stated they are similar in their leadership and command and respect of teammates. Something Romo didnt grasp to this degree. At this time Dak is more of a bus driver and thats pretty much what Aikman did in a run first offense. The similarities pretty much end there.

Aikman was an immobile, highly accurate pocket passer. Dak is a dual threat QB, accuracy is not his calling card, but appears to be clutch and can carry the team when he needs to late. Aikman rarely did that.

Aikman had some amazing numbers in the playoffs, and Aikman wasn't a bus driver, he and Irving would make you bleed if you sell out on the run. As for the leadership, you are giving me a lot of Dak's accomplishments, which a lot of it are situational. An Unknown Quarterback that defensive coordinators don't have any film on, paired with the best offensive line, best running back for that year, plenty of receiving weapons, security blankets with Jason and Beasley. This year could've been very ugly if not for the coop trade. Then you go on to say thing about leadership that Romo didn't grasp when you haven't been in any of those locker rooms each years and know how people felt. I haven't seen much of Dak yet, and that is because he is still young, but I've seen enough of romo to see him talking to his wide receivers when they did something wrong, that is leadership right there. Heck Dez is a perfect example of a wideout that romo had to work with and we seeing some of his leadership communication skills on TV.

I got nothing against Dak, It's just i find this leadership talk silly saying how quarterback A has it when B didn't when this all based on hearsay on something woodson said, without any more details.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Aikman had some amazing numbers in the playoffs, and Aikman wasn't a bus driver, he and Irving would make you bleed if you sell out on the run. As for the leadership, you are giving me a lot of Dak's accomplishments, which a lot of it are situational. An Unknown Quarterback that defensive coordinators don't have any film on, paired with the best offensive line, best running back for that year, plenty of receiving weapons, security blankets with Jason and Beasley. This year could've been very ugly if not for the coop trade. Then you go on to say thing about leadership that Romo didn't grasp when you haven't been in any of those locker rooms each years and know how people felt. I haven't seen much of Dak yet, and that is because he is still young, but I've seen enough of romo to see him talking to his wide receivers when they did something wrong, that is leadership right there. Heck Dez is a perfect example of a wideout that romo had to work with and we seeing some of his leadership communication skills on TV.

I got nothing against Dak, It's just i find this leadership talk silly saying how quarterback A has it when B didn't when this all based on hearsay on something woodson said, without any more details.

Its more than woodson. IT has been said several times by teamates and other reporters. You can also see it plainly how they love and rally around Dak. How he goes around to the players, pumps people up. They believe in him. Romo was the leader of the team, but he didnt have what Dak had with the leadership.

This has also been reported. Romo was more of a clicky leader and hung out with Witten, and just a few others. Dak is a full team guy. And then we have the clutch abilities of Dak. Its very obvious to see.

I know you guys like to flaunt your doubts on Dak, but if you would just lift the blinders some you would see it. I think many cant get passed the fact that hes not a fully developed pocket passer yet.

And I agree this season could have been a complete disaster. With the state of the Oline its amazing we are even here right now. Had it not been for the firing of the line coach and the cooper trade we would have been lucky to win 8 games.

Dak showed the first 24 games of his career that he could play amazing with a great Oline. Then the line fell apart and it has taken his a full 16 games to adjust and develop more. Now he is showing that he can win games with a marginal line in front of him. No doubt the defense is helping.

But you can tell this offense actually holds Dak back. This conservative, run first, offense is not what he does best. When they open things up and go to the hurry up offense, Dak flourishes. Its a great sign.

And I dont agree with you about Aikman. Aikman was great and in a more wide open passing offense he probably could have been even better. But all Aikman was asked to do most of the time was drive the bus. Which he did to perfection. Aikman and Irvin were first down, possession machines. They were rarely a deep thread. Irvin barely broke 1000 yards most years and had between 6-8 TD's each year. IT just wasnt that type of offense.