Joe Montana was the original Tony Romo; Bill Walsh left rings

[OmerV]

A guy with 3 Super Bowl MVP awards is the original version of a guy whose legacy is that he had difficulty getting to and winning in the playoffs?

 

[GMO415]

OP take your lithium and delete this thread. We promise to forget it ever happened.....sheesh.

 

[robbieruff]

on the table.

I’m avoiding it like my name is Sandra Bullock.

I know the clueless sheep are running with it. Can’t turn on TV, Radio, or Twitter

Best ever!

And since Brady now has 6, I’m sure they’ve really lost all perspective and there debating who was a better athlete Brady or Jordan

Yeah let’s compare: The ultimate role player vs the greatest one man wrecking crew that sports has ever witnessed(wilt and Jim brown)

Would history be different?

What if Bill Walsh wasn’t driven by rather leave a year too early than a year too late

What if Joe Montana didn’t lose his job to an inferior QB

the Cowboys mini run in the 90’s May never have come to pass

No disrespect to the Cowboys but Walsh/Montana >>> Seifert/Young all day

As the great Eric Bischoff always says: context is king

This is why you shouldn’t label anyone in sports the absolute greatest without proper context

Intriguing post with some notable observations/takes...appreciate the thought provoking conversation starter!

Having lived in SF since 90, my POV was Joe <<< Young (physically) since the Leonard Marshall sack (see below for the memories)...had Joe retained the starting position (Walsh or not, who BTW was basically a pathological drunk by that point in his career up to and through his tenure at Stanford, a phenomena that I witnessed personally many times during ski season in Tahoe...which was what prompted both organizations to orchestrate dignified exits at each stop), he would have been a sitting duck for our D at that point (see highlights of his demise against the Bills when he took KC to the championship game...the Bills pass rush feasted and Joe had lost all of his escapability). That's my context in any case...

 

[GMO415]

Behind.Brady.lies Montana, Bradshaw, and Aikman. Tony isn't even in the entire conversation

 

[Daktozekecoop]

Joe was the best ever, not close in my opinion. But Young in a top 5 quarterback. They are the best two quarterbacks any team has ever had.

 

[Daktozekecoop]

We would be number two on that list, with Staubach and Aikman.
And we are the team with the best 3 quarterbacks ever, adding Romo. And with White and Dak, we have been very fortunate.

 

[Daktozekecoop]

IMO!!

 

[Super_Kazuya]

A guy with 3 Super Bowl MVP awards is the original version of a guy whose legacy is that he had difficulty getting to and winning in the playoffs?

I think you may have Young mixed up with someone else as the 49ers won the Super Bowl in Young’s fourth season starting and they made the playoffs every year but one.

 

[OmerV]

I think you may have Young mixed up with someone else as the 49ers won the Super Bowl in Young’s fourth season starting and they made the playoffs every year but one.

I was referring to the thread title that says Joe Montana was the original Tony Romo.

 

[Daktozekecoop]

A guy with 3 Super Bowl MVP awards is the original version of a guy whose legacy is that he had difficulty getting to and winning in the playoffs?

He is arguing that Brady's 6 rings does not make him the greatest and I agree. As for the comparison to Romo, He is saying Montana missed out on further super bowls rings, only because Walsh retired and an even better combo than Brady Belichick existed, ie Montana Walsh, again I strongly agree. {Romo missing out on rings because of not having the great coaching counterpart} I agree with that too.

 

[OmerV]

He is arguing that Brady's 6 rings does not make him the greatest and I agree. As for the comparison to Romo, He is saying Montana missed out on further super bowls rings, only because Walsh retired and an even better combo than Brady Belichick existed, ie Montana Walsh, again I strongly agree. {Romo missing out on rings because of not having the great coaching counterpart}

The thread title makes no sense. Even if Walsh retiring did cost him some Super Bowl rings, he did have Walsh, and he did win Super Bowls, and he’d get post season accolades. His career was hardly akin to Romo’s career.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I was referring to the thread title that says Joe Montana was the original Tony Romo.

Fair enough. Outside of the bizarre mention in the title, no one has said anything about Romo and I thought you were continuing the discussion people were having about Young being overrated/underrated compared to Montana.

 

[Daktozekecoop]

The thread title makes no sense.

It does. Montana missed out on rings because he no longer had a great coach. Romo missed out on rings because he never had a great coach. At the same time as having a complete team.

 

[Blackspider214]

Young was one of the most overrated QBs i ever watched playing. The way the 49ers handled Montanas injury and his demolition i will never forget. How they handeld player like rathman, rice, montana or craig. Players that brought them fame and Fortune. That had no class. Worst franchise in the league. And they havent changed. Just look at the Kapernik case.

Montana is the greatest QB to ever play the game. Brady is lucky to play in the right franchise which is corrupt but has all the right connections. Brady and the Patriots are just a shame for the game.

Lmao at saying Brady is lucky yet Montana gets to play with Walsh and a stacked lineup in a salary cap free era.

Brady is much better than Montana.

 

[OmerV]

Fair enough. Outside of the bizarre mention in the title, no one has said anything about Romo and I thought you were continuing the discussion people were having about Young being overrated/underrated compared to Montana.

Nope, just making a flppant remark about the title of the thread.

 

[Daktozekecoop]

The OP was just having fun with words. I get that he does not like the accolades given Brady simply due to numbers. I agree with him. Brady is no where near Montana in my opinion. And the OP sees Romo with the 2007 team, but no ring because he was lacking a great coach. Romo is all the time talked about having the skill to have done so much more if he had a complete team and a great coach.

 

[Daktozekecoop]

Lmao at saying Brady is lucky yet Montana gets to play with Walsh and a stacked lineup in a salary cap free era.

Brady is much better than Montana.

They are not close. With the same team around them Montana would win 10 out of ten times.

 

[Daktozekecoop]

Behind.Brady.lies Montana, Bradshaw, and Aikman. Tony isn't even in the entire conversation

I don't think you read the post. Oh well.

 

[OmerV]

It does. Montana missed out on rings because he no longer had a great coach. Romo missed out on rings because he never had a great coach. At the same time as having a complete team.

First, Montana actually won a Super Bowl with Siefert as head coach, as did Steve Young, so let’s not pretend winning Super Bowls in San Francisco suddenly became impossible when Walsh retired.

But on top of that, the fact remains that Montana actually did have a great coach for a significant part of his career, and he did win Super Bowls, and he did make a lot of post season appearances, and he did get a lot of post season accolades. And he also won NFL MVP awards a few times. Romo had none of that.

 

[kskboys]

Young is, IMO, the most underrated QB of all time. The dude was special. Better than Montana, special.

Oh no. That's not even close.