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Not all have paid off handsomely. The risk are paying off now but those picks used more wisely at the time could have propelled those defenses at the time in 2014 and 2016 for example.

Absolutely right, and I'm glad that the risk-taking is gone. Give me solid players like Awuzie and Conner Williams over all or nothing risks like Gregory and Jaylon Smith, that don;t pan out for years, if at all.

The Claiborne move up in draft was a bust.

Yes, an impulsive, poorly thought-out gamble, exacerbated by injury and scheme change.

2nd rd pick Escobar a Bust when we didn’t even need a TE.

Much less the absolute worst one in the entire group. He'll always be the guy we drafted instead of Jason Kelce.

Jenkins and Felix both 1st round bust in same draft.

Ouch and double-ouch. Who uses a 1st round pick on a part-time running back? Just the thought process involved in that is insane.

Yes, we are seeing some better decisions but still enough poor ones to prevent or stifle more success.

Those that you have brought up are all well in the rear view mirror. Taco Charlton is the best example of a recent draft mistake. And I'm putting that one on Marinelli more than Jerry, though it's his fault for listening to him.
 

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Absolutely right, and I'm glad that the risk-taking is gone. Give me solid players like Awuzie and Conner Williams over all or nothing risks like Gregory and Jaylon Smith, that don;t pan out for years, if at all.



Yes, an impulsive, poorly thought-out gamble, exacerbated by injury and scheme change.



Much less the absolute worst one in the entire group. He'll always be the guy we drafted instead of Jason Kelce.



Ouch and double-ouch. Who uses a 1st round pick on a part-time running back? Just the thought process involved in that is insane.



Those that you have brought up are all well in the rear view mirror. Taco Charlton is the best example of a recent draft mistake. And I'm putting that one on Marinelli more than Jerry, though it's his fault for listening to him.
While the Cooper trade bolstered this season it’s not clear what his future will be here. That’s the kind of risk Jerry is still capable of that for a change actually worked but it illustrates the riverboat gambler is still much in play.
 

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While the Cooper trade bolstered this season it’s not clear what his future will be here.

What's "not clear"?

That’s the kind of risk Jerry is still capable of that for a change actually worked but it illustrates the riverboat gambler is still much in play.

It worked spectacularly well. The Cowboys fleeced the Raiders. They got a top 5 receiver who's still a baby, and they did it for what? Pick #28? And doing so, he saved his 2018 season. I had reservations at the time and I'm glad to admit they were unfounded and I was totally wrong. When Jones knows a great deal when he see one, that's a good thing, not a bad one.
 

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What's "not clear"?



It worked spectacularly well. The Cowboys fleeced the Raiders. They got a top 5 receiver who's still a baby, and they did it for what? Pick #28? And doing so, he saved his 2018 season. I had reservations at the time and I'm glad to admit they were unfounded and I was totally wrong. When Jones knows a great deal when he see one, that's a good thing, not a bad one.
Yes, it did work well. The point was though the Riverboat Gambler is still in play. The next one could cost us. Just because it worked this time doesn’t mean Jerry has learned or become smarter.
 

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Yes, it did work well. The point was though the Riverboat Gambler is still in play. The next one could cost us. Just because it worked this time doesn’t mean Jerry has learned or become smarter.

No offense, but it sounds to me like you're trying really hard to find a negative on this one.
 

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No offense, but it sounds to me like you're trying really hard to find a negative on this one.
No, but it could have been . The point remains it’s an example we haven’t moved past Jerry’s poor instincts just because this one worked out.
 

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No, but it could have been . The point remains it’s an example we haven’t moved past Jerry’s poor instincts just because this one worked out.

I think the point is that Jones saw an opportunity to take advantage of and he did. I don't think your point has much support.
 

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I think the point is that Jones saw an opportunity to take advantage of and he did. I don't think your point has much support.
But I thought you said Jerry’s riverboat gambling risk were a thing of the past?
 

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But I thought you said Jerry’s riverboat gambling risk were a thing of the past?

And they are. That wasn't "riverboat gambling", that's called a smart trade.

Unless you want to initiate a trade embargo on all things going forward? Is that what you're looking for is this yet another attempt to criticize Jones, even when he's making smart moves?
 

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And they are. That wasn't "riverboat gambling", that's called a smart trade.

Unless you want to initiate a trade embargo on all things going forward? Is that what you're looking for is this yet another attempt to criticize Jones, even when he's making smart moves?
Just because one of his risk works out doesn’t mean he’s done taking risk which could thwart the team was the point.

You said his risk were a thing of the past. This trade is a great example it’s not simply because it worked out.
 

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Just because one of his risk works out doesn’t mean he’s done taking risk which could thwart the team was the point.

You said his risk were a thing of the past. This trade is a great example it’s not simply because it worked out.

It's called a trade. Like I said, you want to try to put the guy in a no-win scenario. That's your issue, nobody else's.
 

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Stash, all conversations aside, this fan would be still looking forward if the Dallas learned top shelf open field tackling techniques. They would get very hard to beat then...no matter what geneology one pictures in the past.
 

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Some advance warning that what you are about to read will not be pleasant. Stop now if you don't want to see what just might be the absolute worst year in Dallas Cowboys history. This isn't some Cowboys bashfest or an attempt to bring everyone down. It's simply a history lesson. A trip down memory lane and some valuable lessons in what not to do.

So again, if you're going to be offended by the topic, do me, yourself, and everyone else a favor and don't read any further because it's not pretty and you won't like what you see.

This is a story about the 2000 Vowboys and how they may be the worst team in franchise history. Not in terms of record, we've seen worse there. But in terms of sheer incompetence, poor decision-making, and outright mistakes.

In my opinion, nothing can top the year 2000 for being the absolute pits in terms of poor choices, and watching this team being screwed up for decades. Everything that could go wrong, did go wrong, and every choice and decision was proven to be the wrong one. Not just a little wrong either, but Hall of Fame worthy wrong.

First, Jerry Jones made the decision to fire Chan Gailey. This after the man had an above .500 record and made the playoffs both years he was here.

To replace him? Jones made the worst choice he possibly could make - Dave frickin' Campo. The "last man standing" from the glory days. While names like Bill Belicheck were signing on to coach the Patriots - and how did that turn out? - Jerry Jones made the decision to go with Dave Campo.

To follow that up, the decision was made to trade away not one, but two 1st round draft picks for Joey Galloway. This move was made in an attempt to replace Michael Irvin who's career was abruptly ended. One bad thing happening after another. And on top of that, Galloway needed a new big, fat contract. Bad enough, right? No, it gets worse. Much, much worse.

During a week one blowout loss, in-over-his-head-coach Dave Campo has Galloway stay in the game. After starting QB Troy Aikman's had suffered a severe concussion and the day was lost. Only for Galloway himself to tear his ACL and be lost for the season. Thanks coach!

Then we come to the NFL Draft that year. In trying to replace cornerback Deion Sanders who had bolted to the rival Commanders (thanks Deion! You ******* mercenary!), the Cowboys decided to just throw whatever remaining draft picks they had left at cornerbacks. Of the 5 total picks they had left, they used 3 of them on cornerbacks.

2 pick 49 Dwayne Goodrich DB Tennessee

4 pick 109 Kareem Larrimore DB West Texas A&M

5 pick 144 Michael Wiley RB Ohio State

6 pick 180 Mario Edwards DB Florida State

7 pick 219 Orantes Grant LB Does anyone really care?

The claim to fame of this group would be Dwayne Goodrich, and the fact that he never did anything on the field, but got drunk and killed people while reckless driving off the field. That's it. It was a complete washout.

By the way, the 2000 draft was where QB Tom Brady came from. And it also happened to coincide with the final season of Troy Aikman's career. You couldn't have written up this tragedy any better if you tried.

I'm sure everyone knows the rest, Campo showed he never deserved the job in the first place, the team suffered through not one, not two, but three 5-11 seasons in finding that out, and the organization spiraled into a funk that showed no end in sight until Bill Parcells rode in to the rescue and helped to reestablish a lost level of respectability.

There have been mistakes made before and since, and some down seasons, but I can't help but to look back at the year 2000 as the very worst, and most destructive in the history of the franchise.

And if you've actually kept reading to this point, good for you o glutton for punishment! I'm wondering if you can think of a worse time of decision-making and ineptitude?
so whats the point of rehashing something from 19 years ago? you bored, you like poopstirring? I mean I cant care less about anything that happened that long ago for the purposes of rehashing it.. so no team including us picked tom until the 6th round because they were just throwing away pick on player hardly used and had zero idea hed be a HOF player still playing..thats luck..not skilled drafting..heck was it Drew Henson or whomever was starting over him at MI that was supposed to be the Shizzle?

just more negativity , go get root canal bro..;)
 

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so whats the point of rehashing something from 19 years ago? you bored, you like poopstirring? I mean I cant care less about anything that happened that long ago for the purposes of rehashing it.. so no team including us picked tom until the 6th round because they were just throwing away pick on player hardly used and had zero idea hed be a HOF player still playing..thats luck..not skilled drafting..heck was it Drew Henson or whomever was starting over him at MI that was supposed to be the Shizzle?

just more negativity , go get root canal bro..;)

Cry some more about it then, since it's obvious that you can't handle anyone talking about it. Your issue, not anybody else's. Some people just aren't mature enough to be able to talk about everything to do with the Cowboys and have to just cherry pick the good stuff.
 

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It's called a trade. Like I said, you want to try to put the guy in a no-win scenario. That's your issue, nobody else's.
You’re still missing my point. You said Jerry’s riverboat gambling risk was in the past. This trade is a beautiful example it’s not.

And Jerry won on this one. But that’s not my point.
 

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Crappy thing about Galloway is that he produced multiple 1,000 yard seasons after leaving Dallas.
Yep. If he could have put up stats in Dallas similar to what he did in Seattle before Dallas, and Tampa after Dallas, he might have been a Hall of famer
 

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Why do so many still think Jerry is still making personnel decisions? It's Stephen with valued input from mcclay.
 

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You’re still missing my point. You said Jerry’s riverboat gambling risk was in the past. This trade is a beautiful example it’s not.

No it isn't, but you keep banging that drum.

And Jerry won on this one. But that’s not my point.

Your "point" is another failed attempt to try to blame Jerry Jones for something, even when he gets it right. You have issues when it comes to this, and it now extends to trying to attack the guy even when he does something right. That's sad.

You've got it so bad that good, solid trades are now "riverboat gambling risk". And in the sad scenario you try to paint, trades are off-limits because they constitute "riverboat gambling risk".

You've warped your own reality and obsession with Jerry Jones so badly that you see ghosts and "bad things" that are actually good ones.

You need to give this whole thing a break.
 

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Why do so many still think Jerry is still making personnel decisions? It's Stephen with valued input from mcclay.

Because some want to attack Jerry Jones at every turn, even if they have to make things up to do it.
 

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No it isn't, but you keep banging that drum.



Your "point" is another failed attempt to try to blame Jerry Jones for something, even when he gets it right. You have issues when it comes to this, and it now extends to trying to attack the guy even when he does something right. That's sad.

You've got it so bad that good, solid trades are now "riverboat gambling risk". And in the sad scenario you try to paint, trades are off-limits because they constitute "riverboat gambling risk".

You've warped your own reality and obsession with Jerry Jones so badly that you see ghosts and "bad things" that are actually good ones.

You need to give this whole thing a break.
It’s still riverboat gambling even when it works. And Jerry gets credit for this one because it worked.
 
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