Rumor: DLaw looking for 100mils / 70 guaranteed

[Nightman]

Khalil Mack had 10.5 in 2017 and 11 in 2016.

"Meh" indeed.

Sorry definitions offend you

 

[Nightman]

Like "there's only been 4 players that have done it in 10 years, and only JJ Watt's done it more than once", right?

Is Von Miller not elite? He's never done it.

Is Khalil Mack not elite? He's never done it.

Sorry definitions offend you

VMiller got close- 18.5
KMack is overrated IMO- he tops out at 15

I watched DWare do better 3 times

 

[Stash]

Sorry definitions offend you

Hypocrisy offends me.

Double standards offend me.

People who try to move the goal posts forward and backward at every turn offend me.

What you're trying here offends me.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

For the past two seasons, Lawrence is better than Mack.

This is highly subjective, on your part. First of all, one is a DE and the other is a LB. If you consider tackles, then it's not even close, Mack is way better. Also, Mack played for a much worse team in 17, then did Lawrence. I mean, we can do this all day but if you wanna base things on Lawrence's performance over the past two seasons, that's fine with me. I'm not doing that and nothing I've seen proves to me that he worth that kind of money. He is not the best defensive player in the league. Simple as that IMO.

 

[beware_d-ware]

He'll tell you whatever he thinks that you'll buy. And the story will change with each and every post. And the standards will rise and fall wherever they make Mack look better or Lawrence look worse. That's on full display.

Yep. People just get this sticker shock when they see "$100 million" and twist themselves in knots to justify why a player isn't worth it.

Sorry definitions offend you

Von Miller and Mack both have $100+ million contracts. If that's what non-elite players are making these days, then I guess D-Law fits right in.

 

[Nightman]

Hypocrisy offends me.

Double standards offend me.

People who try to move the goal posts forward and backward at every turn offend me.

What you're trying here offends me.

Save the drama for your mama

KMack has never got more than 15 and DLaw tops out at 14.5

Neither is elite or great or worth 23m

 

[Stash]

This is highly subjective, on your part.

Really? Who's the guy who keeps trying to tell everyone what "does and "doesn't matter"? No more "subjective than that.

First of all, one is a DE and the other is a LB. If you consider tackles, then it's not even close, Mack is way better.

Mack was listed as playing DE in 2015, 2016, and 2017.

Also, Mack played for a much worse team in 17, then did Lawrence.

In what way? Or does that not matter either?

I mean, we can do this all day but if you wanna base things on Lawrence's performance over the past two seasons, that's fine with me. I'm not doing that and nothing I've seen proves to me that he worth that kind of money. He is not the best defensive player in the league. Simple as that IMO.

That's fine, because he wouldn't be paid like "the best defensive player in the league", so we're good then.

 

[Nightman]

Yep. People just get this sticker shock when they see "$100 million" and twist themselves in knots to justify why a player isn't worth it.



Von Miller and Mack both have $100+ million contracts. If that's what non-elite players are making these days, then I guess D-Law fits right in.

OK you win.... I will give 19 sacks for elite

Thats makes an even 20 times it has happened

 

[Stash]

Save the drama for your mama

Save the BS for someone who doesn't see through it.

KMack has never got more than 15 and DLaw tops out at 14.5

Neither is elite or great or worth 23m

And one is getting paid that much and the other $3 million a year less and $41 million less overall. And no draft pick compensation on top of that.

 

[Nightman]

That's fine, because he wouldn't be paid like "the best defensive player in the league", so we're good then.

70m guaranteed is the most ever

 

[beware_d-ware]

OK you win.... I will give 19 sacks for elite

Thats makes an even 20 times it has happened

I'm done here.

 

[Doomsday101]

All I can say if you want talent on this team it cost money. Seem every FA we have people here want them released because it will cost money. Dallas has ample room in the cap to get these key FA signed. What is stupid is looking to pay high priced FA off other teams when we have our own keys that need to be taken care of. I fully expect DLaw to get paid and expect Dallas to step up and get it done.

 

[Stash]

70m guaranteed is the most ever

I'm not suggesting he will get $70 million guaranteed. I expect it to be closer to $60 million. I've said that before. I think it's a 5-year, $100 million deal with $60 million and essentially the first three years "guaranteed" with options later.

 

[Stash]

All I can say if you want talent on this team it cost money. Seem every FA we have people here want them released because it will cost money. Dallas has ample room in the cap to get these key FA signed. What is stupid is looking to pay high priced FA off other teams when we have our own keys that need to be taken care of. I fully expect DLaw to get paid and expect Dallas to step up and get it done.

If you're not going to pay Lawrence, don't pay anybody. Let 'em all go, forever. Because there's not one of them who has earned his pay more than Lawrence has. Not one. So don't pay Prescott, don't pay Zeke, don't pay Byron Jones, nobody. Nobody deserves it. Nobody's earned it. Just draft replacements forever and watch all that cap space grow.

Oh, and never win anything either.

 

[Nightman]

I'm done here.

TKO

 

[Nightman]

If you're not going to pay Lawrence, don't pay anybody. Let 'em all go, forever. Because there's not one of them who has earned his pay more than Lawrence has. Not one. So don't pay Prescott, don't pay Zeke, don't pay Byron Jones, nobody. Nobody deserves it. Nobody's earned it. Just draft replacements forever and watch all that cap space grow.

Oh, and never win anything either.

That isn't fair

DLaw has to give some if he wants to be part of a rising team

If he wants to max out then he can go

TSmith, TFred, SLee all took team friendly deals....ZMartin pushed the limits but OGs cost a lot less

We all want DLaw to be a part of a Championship run but he has to buy into the team concept

 

[Doomsday101]

If you're not going to pay Lawrence, don't pay anybody. Let 'em all go, forever. Because there's not one of them who has earned his pay more than Lawrence has. Not one. So don't pay Prescott, don't pay Zeke, don't pay Byron Jones, nobody. Nobody deserves it. Nobody's earned it. Just draft replacements forever and watch all that cap space grow.

Oh, and never win anything either.

Seems to be the mind set for some. Myself I see this team for what it is and that is one of the youngest in the NFL a team who made post season won wildcard round and I think heading in the right direction. Others can hang their heads around here all they want that is their choice. But Cowboys can get our guys signed and I fully expect them to get signed and progress heading into 2019 season.

 

[HappyOnions]

That's laughable...hell no to that

 

[Stash]

That isn't fair

DLaw has to give some if he wants to be part of a rising team

If he wants to max out then he can go

TSmith, TFred, SLee all took team friendly deals....ZMartin pushed the limits but OGs cost a lot less

We all want DLaw to be a part of a Championship run but he has to buy into the team concept

Good luck with that. I wish it worked the way you're describing but it doesn't.

And the fact that Taco Charlton is a huge miss only means that if you want to keep this team's biggest strength intact, you're stuck paying Lawrence $100 million over 5 years.

The Mack deal shows what teams with cap space are willing to pay. If the Cowboys won't pay him, the Colts will, in a hot second. And much more than that $100 million.

 

[kskboys]

Good luck with that. I wish it worked the way you're describing but it doesn't.

And the fact that Taco Charlton is a huge miss only means that if you want to keep this team's biggest strength intact, you're stuck paying Lawrence $100 million over 5 years.

The Mack deal shows what teams with cap space are willing to pay. If the Cowboys won't pay him, the Colts will, in a hot second. And much more than that $100 million.

Unfotunately, we have to pay DLaw. Just no other choice that I can discern.