Willing to part with B. Jones. Hear me out

[cowboyfan4lyfe]

One of the biggest topics in Cowboyland is who do we resign from our great drafts of 2015-2018. Here's the list for this season of FA.....
Player Pos. Type Cap Hit 2018
Players tagged or tendered
DeMarcus Lawrence DE UFA 17.1
David Irving DT UFA 2.9
2015 draft class
Damien Wilson OLB UFA 0.7
Geoff Swaim TE UFA 0.6
Veterans on expiring contracts
Cole Beasley WR UFA 3.4
L.P. Ladouceur LS UFA 1.1
Datone Jones DE UFA 0.8
Rod Smith RB UFA 0.7
One-year "Rentals"
Tavon Austin WR UFA 3.0
Cameron Fleming T UFA 2.5
Jamize Olawale FB UFA 2.0
Marcus Martin G UFA 0.9
Caraun Reid DE UFA 0.8
Darian Thompson FS UFA 0.7
Restricted Free Agents (ERFA)
Justin March-Lillard ILB RFA 0.6
Daniel Ross DT ERFA 0.5

From this list DLaw is the most important that you sign at almost any price. Khalil Mack who is the highest paid DE will average between 17-22mil over the length of his contract. I say front load DLaw Contract and when it hits year 3-5 it will be easier to get from under. Irving is willing to come back for a hometown discount. Treat him like Rolondo McClain and sign him yearly until he shows otherwise or you find someone to replace him. The rest will depend on our salary cap. Looking at the big picture Dak, Cooper, Jones Smith, and Zeke which is the CORE of this team is coming up the next 2-3 seasons. There's 2 ways I see this working out. Next season the NFL will add a Transition tag. The difference between the 2 is one only the team can negotiate with the franchise player that was tagged, while with the Transition tag any team can out bid the team that place the tag. I would consider this an option for Byron Jones. He is approaching his 5th year option this season. I would also consider trading him for either a first round pick to get back into the first round for a CB Stud in this years draft. We have the right front office staff in place to replace Jones. We also have the right coach in place who probably won't be around after this season in Kris Richards to coach up any CB be ready. I also believe Jourdan Lewis can fill the role. He's not Richards prototype of CB because oh his height. But he has a better nose for the ball than Jones, and we need to find out if he is keeper as he approaches the end of his rookie contract.....#Thoughts

 

[Ken]

One of the biggest topics in Cowboyland is who do we resign from our great drafts of 2015-2018. Here's the list for this season of FA.....
Player Pos. Type Cap Hit 2018
Players tagged or tendered
DeMarcus Lawrence DE UFA 17.1
David Irving DT UFA 2.9
2015 draft class
Damien Wilson OLB UFA 0.7
Geoff Swaim TE UFA 0.6
Veterans on expiring contracts
Cole Beasley WR UFA 3.4
L.P. Ladouceur LS UFA 1.1
Datone Jones DE UFA 0.8
Rod Smith RB UFA 0.7
One-year "Rentals"
Tavon Austin WR UFA 3.0
Cameron Fleming T UFA 2.5
Jamize Olawale FB UFA 2.0
Marcus Martin G UFA 0.9
Caraun Reid DE UFA 0.8
Darian Thompson FS UFA 0.7
Restricted Free Agents (ERFA)
Justin March-Lillard ILB RFA 0.6
Daniel Ross DT ERFA 0.5

From this list DLaw is the most important that you sign at almost any price. Khalil Mack who is the highest paid DE will average between 17-22mil over the length of his contract. I say front load DLaw Contract and when it hits year 3-5 it will be easier to get from under. Irving is willing to come back for a hometown discount. Treat him like Rolondo McClain and sign him yearly until he shows otherwise or you find someone to replace him. The rest will depend on our salary cap. Looking at the big picture Dak, Cooper, Jones Smith, and Zeke which is the CORE of this team is coming up the next 2-3 seasons. There's 2 ways I see this working out. Next season the NFL will add a Transition tag. The difference between the 2 is one only the team can negotiate with the franchise player that was tagged, while with the Transition tag any team can out bid the team that place the tag. I would consider this an option for Byron Jones. He is approaching his 5th year option this season. I would also consider trading him for either a first round pick to get back into the first round for a CB Stud in this years draft. We have the right front office staff in place to replace Jones. We also have the right coach in place who probably won't be around after this season in Kris Richards to coach up any CB be ready. I also believe Jourdan Lewis can fill the role. He's not Richards prototype of CB because oh his height. But he has a better nose for the ball than Jones, and we need to find out if he is keeper as he approaches the end of his rookie contract.....#Thoughts

I am fine with moving on from him but you have to get something for him.

I just don't want to see him walk but I do think he is overated and not worth the money.

 

[nightrain]

He's a bargain at his option year salary. I would not pay him top CB money. Maybe the Rams would trade Donald for him.

 

[Zekeats]

BJ no hands

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Never seen an organization's fans so willing to get rid of their own homegrown talent.

If the Zone got it's way we'd let Lawrence and Jones walk.

 

[Hardline]

I would trade anyone if the price was right

 

[cowboyfan4lyfe]

Never seen an organization's fans so willing to get rid of their own homegrown talent.

If the Zone got it's way we'd let Lawrence and Jones walk.

Can't keep everyone with football's salary cap

 

[cowboyfan4lyfe]

Never seen an organization's fans so willing to get rid of their own homegrown talent.

If the Zone got it's way we'd let Lawrence and Jones walk.

Just Jones in my book

 

[cowboyfan4lyfe]

He's a bargain at his option year salary. I would not pay him top CB money. Maybe the Rams would trade Donald for him.

Come on man! Get real would you give up Donald for Byron Jones??? Even if it happens how could we fit Donald under our salary cap?

 

[Stash]

If you can get me a 1st round draft pick for him? I'll drive him to the airport personally.

 

[nightrain]

Come on man! Get real would you give up Donald for Byron Jones??? Even if it happens how could we fit Donald under our salary cap?

Lighten up my good man. Its Friday

 

[cowboyfan4lyfe]

If you can get me a 1st round draft pick for him? I'll drive him to the airport personally.

If that happens it will probably be a late first round. And it will have to be a player that the front office thinks a lot of that has dropped.

 

[cowboyfan4lyfe]

Lighten up my good man. Its Friday

I am fine. I apologized, but fantasy league like trades grinds my gears a little lol

 

[Stash]

If that happens it will probably be a late first round. And it will have to be a player that the front office thinks a lot of that has dropped.

I can't see that happening. As I said, I'd gladly make the deal if it did, but I don't see anyone giving up a 1st round pick to pay top money for a good, not great, non-playmaking cornerback to then have to sign him to a big-money deal.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

I agree unless he has another great year and stays great all 16 games. He had 12 great games last season and completely fell off late in the year.

 

[xwalker]

One of the biggest topics in Cowboyland is who do we resign from our great drafts of 2015-2018. Here's the list for this season of FA.....
Player Pos. Type Cap Hit 2018
Players tagged or tendered
DeMarcus Lawrence DE UFA 17.1
David Irving DT UFA 2.9
2015 draft class
Damien Wilson OLB UFA 0.7
Geoff Swaim TE UFA 0.6
Veterans on expiring contracts
Cole Beasley WR UFA 3.4
L.P. Ladouceur LS UFA 1.1
Datone Jones DE UFA 0.8
Rod Smith RB UFA 0.7
One-year "Rentals"
Tavon Austin WR UFA 3.0
Cameron Fleming T UFA 2.5
Jamize Olawale FB UFA 2.0
Marcus Martin G UFA 0.9
Caraun Reid DE UFA 0.8
Darian Thompson FS UFA 0.7
Restricted Free Agents (ERFA)
Justin March-Lillard ILB RFA 0.6
Daniel Ross DT ERFA 0.5

From this list DLaw is the most important that you sign at almost any price. Khalil Mack who is the highest paid DE will average between 17-22mil over the length of his contract. I say front load DLaw Contract and when it hits year 3-5 it will be easier to get from under. Irving is willing to come back for a hometown discount. Treat him like Rolondo McClain and sign him yearly until he shows otherwise or you find someone to replace him. The rest will depend on our salary cap. Looking at the big picture Dak, Cooper, Jones Smith, and Zeke which is the CORE of this team is coming up the next 2-3 seasons. There's 2 ways I see this working out. Next season the NFL will add a Transition tag. The difference between the 2 is one only the team can negotiate with the franchise player that was tagged, while with the Transition tag any team can out bid the team that place the tag. I would consider this an option for Byron Jones. He is approaching his 5th year option this season. I would also consider trading him for either a first round pick to get back into the first round for a CB Stud in this years draft. We have the right front office staff in place to replace Jones. We also have the right coach in place who probably won't be around after this season in Kris Richards to coach up any CB be ready. I also believe Jourdan Lewis can fill the role. He's not Richards prototype of CB because oh his height. But he has a better nose for the ball than Jones, and we need to find out if he is keeper as he approaches the end of his rookie contract.....#Thoughts

The transition tag is not new.

Most franchise tags are the non-exclusive type which allows other teams to negotiate with the player but must give up two 1st round picks to sign the player.

Teams can only use the franchise tag or transition tag in a given year, not both. I have not heard of a change to this limitation.

Teams are unlikely to trade a 1st for Byron Jones because he requires a big contract after the season. If he had big INT numbers that might be a different story.

Lewis height is not the only reason that he didn't play more in the Kris Richard scheme.

Lewis plays a trail technique which is basically the opposite of what KR prefers. Lewis played an exaggerated trail in college. Even this season when he played it tended to be trail. Trail does result in more INTs but it requires more help over the top and results in more big plays allowed.

I posted a lengthy explanation about this in another thread yesterday.

 

[Hennessy_King]

The transition tag is not new.

Most franchise tags are the non-exclusive type which allows other teams to negotiate with the player but must give up two 1st round picks to sign the player.

Teams can only use the franchise tag or transition tag in a given year, not both. I have not heard of a change to this limitation.

Teams are unlikely to trade a 1st for Byron Jones because he requires a big contract after the season. If he had big INT numbers that might be a different story.

Lewis height is not the only reason that he didn't play more in the Kris Richard scheme.

Lewis plays a trail technique which is basically the opposite of what KR prefers. Lewis played an exaggerated trail in college. Even this season when he played it tended to be trail. Trail does result in more INTs but it requires more help over the top and results in more big plays allowed.

I posted a lengthy explanation about this in another thread yesterday.

That was a good post i read it. I still feel Lewis should start at outside over chido. He's the best mirror cover man on the team. Byron's 5th year option is a steal and a no brainer but next year I can't imagine paying a guy that doesn't create turnovers top corner money. Byron also did not finish the year off strong. He played his best ball early and struggled a little at the end of the year.

 

[speedkilz88]

Lucky we have him under contract for one more year.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Can't keep everyone with football's salary cap

You can when you dont spend big on outside free agents.

 

[Risen Star]

Well, can this team really afford to pay big dollars to Zeke, Cooper, Lawrence, Jones and the QB to add with three big contracts they already have along the offensive line?