My thoughts on the thoughts on Dak

[CowboysFaninHouston]

again ill ask you, has brady or rodgers ever had an elite RB that his talent would demand pass attempts be taken away? Elliot has had a tone of touches in his first 3 yrs. Like i said take into account what this offense does before you post and try to minimize your own teams qb.

then why mention and compare YPAs? Dak has had Zeke and hasn't had to pass much. with little we saw from him without Zeke, offense and pass offense struggled and he couldn't show that he was an elite passer. can he? we don't know. he may never be an elite passer. we may not need him to be. who cares. why do Dak lovers are hell bent on proving Dak is elite. with stat, after stat, after stat...most of which are meaningless.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

when you have a team with 2 qbs playing the same offense with the same OC and having the same success and struggles to a T you dont see the similarities and what is probably the cause of that? You dont see a system that takes the QB and limits them with the playcalling and the structure of the gameplan?

or maybe the QB is really limited....we did it with Romo, because he took so many hits and carried the team. he became injury prone. we went that route to protect him. with Dak, we may not have had a choice...we shall see

 

[mattjames2010]

romo threw a int every 37 passes in his career. thats top 15 all time. For your info.

Citation needed.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Using total passing yards.....yikes.

Comparing total passing yards from 2014 to 2019....double yikes.

 

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[mattjames2010]

The Dak fanboys are so goofy.

 

[Corso]

Citation needed.

I need specifics man!

I'm Duke... FYI. You're having a great time driving.

 

[mattjames2010]

I need specifics man!

It's pretty bold claim, and I'd be highly shocked if this is the case. His TD to INT % is 2.7% which is top 30 all-time, and it's not like Romo was putting up Brees TD numbers. So, I'm calling into question here that he's top 15 all-time. This is also a stat that we could record since the NFL infancy, right?

QBs used to throw double digit INTs on the regular in the old days. This seems farfetched and pulled out of someone's rear end. But hey I've been surprised before.

 

[Corso]

It's pretty bold claim, and I'd be highly shocked if this is the case. His TD to INT ratio is 2.7% which is top 30 all-time, and it's not like Romo was putting up Brees TD numbers. So, I'm calling into question here that he's top 15 all-time. This is also a stat that we could record since the NFL infancy, right?

QBs used to throw double digit INTs on the regular in the old days. This seems farfetched and pulled out of someone's rear end. But hey I've been surprised before.

I don't know man. All I can say is I do like bold claims and they are the ones that stick out unless they are toppled like a bad Jenga game.

 

[Corso]

Now I'm stuck on Raoul Duke...

 

[Rockport]

Its just amazing to me that the same complaints we read now about Dak were the same gripes we were having in 2014, but instead of the QB being the problem it was limitations the scheme was puttin on the QB. Funny how things come around full circle huh

And mostly from the same people.

 

[Rockport]

The Dak fanboys are so goofy.

32-16 and the Dak haters are miserable.

 

[Corso]

And mostly from the same people.

I blame myself...

 

[mattjames2010]

32-16 and the Dak haters are miserable.

And no Super Bowl trophy. Glad you're still happy with mediocrity though.

 

[Frosty]

I want the guy playing qb for the dallas cowboys right now. I dont care if he doesnt throw 300 yrds and 4 tds a game. I dont care that he doesnt play a perfect game. I get irritated with him at time and his play. But on the next drive he can amaze me with the heart he shows and leads the team. The guy is money when the team needs a score late. Im not going to hold him to the romo, Brady Rodgers standard because he's not them. He's dak Prescott. I can see the pros and cons in him, and the pros outweigh the cons.

Like the post and all the responses, but its seems your post are bias towards DAK and thats not an issue. But comparing DAK to a 2 of the best QBs to ever play the game is a little ambitious. I like DAK and what he brings to the game, but the big question is... has his play peaked, is this the best he will get. It will take another year to find out if the new OC and another of with Amari Cooper payoff. IMO, the game is all about Zeke not DAK. Defense understand they have to stop Zeke and force DAK to beat them. Until that roles switches it will be hard to believe DAK is the future.

Again, I like DAK, but Zeke accounted for 2000yds in 2018, of the Cowboys total offense (5500 yrds). Without Zeke, the Offense and DAK struggle

 

[JBell]

Romo had been a consistent 350yrd passer per game his entire career before 2014. How did he dip 100yrds per game in 1 yr? Maybe the offense? A offense that put more emphasis on run game and the same routes? Oh there the the narrative that Romo was changing the plays and there was more success...Yes he changed some plays and made some great things happen. But the stats dont lie. He was running the same plays and doing the same things Dak has been his entire Career.

Romo was never a 350 yard a game passer. 350 x 16 = 5,600 yards in a season.

Is it too much to ask to fact check before hitting post?

 

[PUSHfold]

One little nit................. There is a huge difference between an 8.5 YPA in 2014 and then what Dak has done the last two years. It's one reason why the 2014 offense was much better than the last two Cowboys offenses. That 2014 team could pound you to death but also exploit teams down the field when they bunched up to stop the run. The last two Cowboys teams? Not so much. 2016 was the best comp to that 2014 season and we haven't really seen that quality offense over the last two seasons.

Yeah and we also don't have comparable lines to 2014/2016...our line has been pretty bad compared to it's own standards.

 

[btcutter]

32-16 and the Dak haters are miserable.

Enjoyed 32-16, hate watching Dak on 3rd and long expecting a punt. I hope he continues to improve.

 

[btcutter]

Like the post and all the responses, but its seems your post are bias towards DAK and thats not an issue. But comparing DAK to a 2 of the best QBs to ever play the game is a little ambitious. I like DAK and what he brings to the game, but the big question is... has his play peaked, is this the best he will get. It will take another year to find out if the new OC and another of with Amari Cooper payoff. IMO, the game is all about Zeke not DAK. Defense understand they have to stop Zeke and force DAK to beat them. Until that roles switches it will be hard to believe DAK is the future.

Again, I like DAK, but Zeke accounted for 2000yds in 2018, of the Cowboys total offense (5500 yrds). Without Zeke, the Offense and DAK struggle

And until Dak and prove himself a threat then the Cowboys will have a hard time winning a SB.

 

[blumayne38]

This isnt going to be long but it will be direct and to the point.

I read thread after thread, and post after post about Dak not throwing for 300 yrds. Along with that all the other cliche criticisms posters here want to spew. ANd i wonder if any of you actually have paid attention and know this information or just hate to hate.

In 2014 Scott Linehan was hired

Look at Romo's stats and you will see that they are very similar to what Dak has done with the offense since he's been in the NFL. The only numbers that are really in Romo's favors are TD passes. But we'll look at the number and you will be suprised to see that it was and has been Linehan thats been the issue.

2014 Romo numbers

247yrds a game passing. Isnt that where Daks been avg'n at his whole career?

in 2014 Romo had 7 games of 250 or more yrds and only 1 game over 300. This yr Dak had 6 over 250 and 2 over 300. In 2017 Dak has 5 over 250 and 1 over 300. 2016 he had 5 over 250 and 2 over 300.

2014 Romo was at 69% comp rate, Dak has been 67,62,67% from 2016 -2018

Romo was 8.52avg per attemp, as Dak has been 8, 6.2, 7.4 from 2016-2018

Romo had been a consistent 350yrd passer per game his entire career before 2014. How did he dip 100yrds per game in 1 yr? Maybe the offense? A offense that put more emphasis on run game and the same routes? Oh there the the narrative that Romo was changing the plays and there was more success...Yes he changed some plays and made some great things happen. But the stats dont lie. He was running the same plays and doing the same things Dak has been his entire Career.

WE saw Romo falling to the ground plenty as the blitz would come right up the gut did we not?

Now this thread isnt a rip at Romo because i have said plenty of times, that i think 2014 was Romo best yr of his career because the offense saved him from himself and set a limit on how much of a gunslinger he plaid. Because up to that point in his career the guy was a int machine. This post is just to show some of you that the starting QB has had the limited statline from 2014 to 2018. Even with the hero Romo.

One thing the system did was provide consistent wins because it kept things simple and high percentage plays and had a OL that nobody could beat. But the problem came to being 5 yrs of tape and 5 yrs of the same play scheme with no alteration. No adjustments, no tweaks. If LInehan would've added to a working system he would still be OC and dallas probably would've been to a superbowl in those 5 yrs of running his offense.

Yeah that says alot. Could have just stopped there.