Speculation: Dak Deal To Be Finalized By End Of Next Week

[America's Cowboy]

Ah, the three stages of America’s Clownboy have been achieved:
Clueless football take -> derailment -> gif/image

You can set your watch to it.

Super Cuachilla = nonstop Dak hating, whinefest, deep denial.

 

[America's Cowboy]

it is only what stephen jones thinks in regards to signing dak that matters. nothing any of us says or thinks about the issue will affect one iota what will happen. but it does make for some very entertaining reading. where I see logic, others see illogic. where I see illogic, others see logic. but one thing is abundantly clear and that is dak is going to be our qb whether any of us likes it or not.

Did you hear this Super Cuachilla?

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Super Quachilla = nonstop Dak hating, whinefest, deep denial.

I forgot the fourth stage:
Clueless football take -> derailment -> gif/image -> unoriginality

All of your football takes are regurgitated, at least come up with your own jokes.

 

[cern]

Did you hear this Super Quachilla?

hablo espanol. pero no entiendo la palabra quachilla. but I did often talk about Antonio Ramiro's glitch on the other site. dak does not suffer the glitch.

 

[America's Cowboy]

hablo espanol. pero no entiendo la palabra quachilla. but I did often talk about Antonio Ramiro's glitch on the other site. dak does not suffer the glitch.

Perdon hermano pero le estaba hablando a el que se llama @Super_Kazuya ... bola de cuacha.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

He's one of them Dak haters. No use wasting time talking to those types. They think they know, yet get proven wrong time and time again. I get a good laugh out of them.

I'm not a Dak hater. I'm also not a Dak Jock Sniffer, or jock sniffer of any player. I thought Dak was special the first game I saw him play in preseason. I've since seen a flaw in him. It must be convenient for you to call anyone who doesn't agree with you a hater. And how has anyone been proven wrong? Again, many of the apologists tend to ignore prior arguments made against your points, and pretend they aren't there and never have been made. Then you go on and say that we've been proven wrong time and time again, neglecting that each time one of you guys attempts to prove someone wrong there has been someone to explain why it doesn't prove as much as you think it does.

 

[Little Jr]

How can you give Dak credit for 4th qtr comebacks, game winning drives, wins, division titles and playoff wins? What am I missing here?

The same way that every QB in the history of the NFL has gotten credit for them. Im sure the same that you have for qbs that you approve of.

 

[Little Jr]

Well, yea they do. That's how they earn elite status.

Literally one play during the mid-game offensive no show could have made the difference.

Average performance with average results.

No, they actually don't.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Reality is that you're wrong because that is never going to happen. No way would the Cowboys disrespect their young franchise QB that way by tagging him after forcing him to play out his last rookie deal year, especially after everything Dak has accomplished in his first 3 years which is a Cowboys franchise rookie stats record. Like Jerry and Stephen have repeatedly been saying, a new longterm contract for Dak is coming this year. Accept it already.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The guaranteed money is what is key here, everything else is window dressing.

Also, for all the posters saying it’s disrespectful to use the tag on Dak, what about Dlaw?

Y’all don’t seem to have any problem with Dlaw being tagged twice. So why is it disrespectful to use it on Dak but totally ok to use it on Dlaw?

Should Dlaw feel disrespected? And if he does should he hold out?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

look it's stephen mcgee's only fan.... look above......you mind posting your romo crying story again.. that was classic....


lmao didn't even have to mention names who loved mcgee, trick shoot guy, kyle orton, and any other loser than came alone.... you just proved my point....

how can this be? He said he always guessed right on what moves should be.

 

[Little Jr]

See that's the thing too: The Dak Crowd likes to say It's a team game when the Cowboys lose. Then they turn right around and credit Dak for the wins. Dak was a top 10 quarterback in 2016, mainly because people didn't have film on him yet. I was very impressed with him back then. But like every human being, Dak has flaws, and some of those got exposed in 2017, and again in the Rams game. I like to say that I'm giving Dak a clean slate in 2019, but well I do get into these arguments where I have to express how I feel he is as a quarterback right now. I hope he can improve in the off season. But well, I think logically, or at least in my opinion I do, and using the art of deduction I figure that if the Rams can game plan against him, then most certainly the best run organization in all of football the patriots can too. That is why that test would be a measuring stick to see if Dak has improved, or if he hasn't been able to overcome what I think his flaw is. People do tend to use games during the season to measure where a team is, so you can do that for a player too.

I do the same thing that's been done in the NFL since the beginning, put a w or l beside the QB name. When they say Aikman was the winningest QB of the 90s they don't go back an watch film and decide if the QB was reason or not. Even if they won a game 10-6 he gets the credit. Just like Dak gets credit for the 13-10 win over the saints this year and the 6-0 win over the eagle's in 2017. But he also takes the Ls for games like the GB and rams game in 2017 when his offense scored 31 and 30 pts but lost because the defense gave up 35 both games. People act like Dak fans are the first to do it and act they never have done with a QB they approved of. Lol that's just for you .

 

[Little Jr]

You don't know what a division game is. You win the division game and you go to the NFC Championship game. Unless I live in some sort of alternate reality, I don't remember Dak ever playing in a Championship game, being one game away from the superbowl. Also a winning a division game is not winning the division. Its in the Playoffs. Wildcard Game, Division Game, Championship Game, SuperBowl. And again, its not just the eye test, it is more than one factor involved to form a logical opinion about Dak. You bringing up stats are about as valuable as the Eye test, because stats can be padded, and wins can come from the team versus to how much an individual player contributed to a win. The whole thing has been discussed on this board before, about how if you only make the high percentage, and usually short passes, how you can pad your stats when you still have deficiencies elsewhere in your game. You might not believe it, but the notion has yet to be dis-proven. Dak has proven that he is good enough to get to a division game. He hasn't proven that he can hang with the elite teams of the NFL and win a division game and move on to the championship game.



I'm just letting you know, the lol, will make a lot of people discount you in a serious debate.

Ah, division game. Gotcha. So that's a knock on him after just 3 years.

As far as the lol, thanks for the advise. Lol

 

[DFWJC]

I do the same thing that's been done in the NFL since the beginning, put a w or l beside the QB name. When they say Aikman was the winningest QB of the 90s they don't go back an watch film and decide if the QB was reason or not. Even if they won a game 10-6 he gets the credit. Just like Dak gets credit for the 13-10 win over the saints this year and the 6-0 win over the eagle's in 2017. But he also takes the Ls for games like the GB and rams game in 2017 when his offense scored 31 and 30 pts but lost because the defense gave up 35 both games. People act like Dak fans are the first to do it and act they never have done with a QB they approved of. Lol that's just for you .

Just because there are people that assign team stats to individual players, does not remotely make it right.
It's a massively silly practice. Most of all in football.

fwiw, I do agree that a QB usually has more impact than other players. But in a sport where there are 22 starters plus special teams, and (unlike in some other sports) one side does not ever even take a single snap on the other side of the field, assigning an entire team win to one player is comical.

Kellen Moore is the winningest college QB of all time, for example. Sure , he was a great leader and college QB, but......

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

I like Dak quite a bit but I think you and I have different definitions of the word hilarious. FWIW I think his proper value is $23-25 million a year.

That's more reasonable. I'm willing to pay a lot more for Dak if he proves himself on a hard schedule. I just don't know why people like throwing caution to the wind and are willing to pay him as high as 32 million that I have seen mentioned.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Ah, division game. Gotcha. So that's a knock on him after just 3 years.

As far as the lol, thanks for the advise. Lol

Well the problem is you want one singular thing that would prove to me that Dak is the real thing. I let you know that I don't think that is very logical to do and would be unfair to Dak. I know people who kept track of this debate between me and you can see me mentioning that. And now you are insuating that I'm being unfair because it is just 3 years. it was pretty obvious from the beginning that you were trying to trap me into saying something to make me look unreasonable from the beginning.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Just because there are people that assign team stats to individual players, does not remotely make it right.
It's a massively silly practice. Most of all in football.

fwiw, I do agree that a QB usually has more impact than other players. But in a sport where there are 22 starters plus special teams, and (unlike in some other sports) one side does not ever even take a single snap on the other side of the field, assigning an entire team win to one player is comical.

Kellen Moore is the winningest college QB of all time, for example. Sure , he was a great leader and college QB, but......

They only assign team stats to individual players when it makes that player look good. Then they turn around and protest not to do that when it makes him look bad.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Super Cuachilla = nonstop Dak hating, whinefest, deep denial.

Weird thing that. Someone who half the board thinks is in Denial accusing other people of being in denial.

 

[Little Jr]

Just because there are people that assign team stats to individual players, does not remotely make it right.
It's a massively silly practice. Most of all in football.

fwiw, I do agree that a QB usually has more impact than other players. But in a sport where there are 22 starters plus special teams, and (unlike in some other sports) one side does not ever even take a single snap on the other side of the field, assigning an entire team win to one player is comical.

Kellen Moore is the winningest college QB of all time, for example. Sure , he was a great leader and college QB, but......

Most all people assign it. Most who don't see one's who dont like or approve of that QB and it wouldn't fit their narrative.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

The guaranteed money is what is key here, everything else is window dressing.

Also, for all the posters saying it’s disrespectful to use the tag on Dak, what about Dlaw?

Y’all don’t seem to have any problem with Dlaw being tagged twice. So why is it disrespectful to use it on Dak but totally ok to use it on Dlaw?

Should Dlaw feel disrespected? And if he does should he hold out?

because they're not on DLaw's jock.