Jason Hatcher Rips Romo and Garrett

[Plankton]

See what? It's a dumb theory, when Wade was fired his defense sucked, what did Garrett have to do with that? The offense was actually putting points on the boards at the same time, how is that sabotage ? The fact the defense actually played better under the linebackers coach is all you need to know. Wade hung himself. VTFOH

Cowboy Offensive Scoring - Week 1 - 8 (Phillips as head coach): 20.1 ppg
Cowboy Offensive Scoring - Week 9-16 (Garrett as head coach): 29.1 ppg

Cowboy Defensive Points Allowed - Week 1-8: 29.0 ppg
Cowboy Defensive Points Allowed - Week 9-16: 25.5 ppg

Bigger delta seen on the offensive side of the ball post coaching change.

 

[Stash]

Let me use small words so you understand. He has been free to say what he wants. He hasn't been under contract for a while now. He left the organization march 2014 not a bad word said about the cowboys. He retired in 2016, with nothing to say to his old organization. So why now? Why bring up any ill feelings now? The opportunity would have been when he was with our rival. So it took him 3 years removed from football and 5 years away from the cowboys to make his feelings known? Sounds like someone who just needs attention.

Or maybe it's the first time the guy sat down for an interview with the locals?

But nah, you go ahead with your 'conspiracy theory' on the whole thing, because you can't handle what the guy said.

 

[khiladi]

I think it had more to do w/ coming off a 22-26 stretch and two 8-8 seasons and a 15th in points scored ranking. Jerry had to do something to lay blame even though he was the GM that didn't even notice the OL falling apart back in 09 already right in front of his eyes.

Jerry also demanded that Romo cut his crapp in the offseason and show more commitment. Romo agreed, but then turned around and demanded that Jerry spend a 1st on the OL if Jerry wanted him to sign the contract renegotiation, which Jerry needed to get under the cap, which he had mismanaged horribly.

All that happened after Sparano stopped baby sitting Garrett, who by the time all was said and done, was bottom of the league in play action passing usage (hardly grounds to claim Romo was ‘checking our’ of Run plays) and dropped to bottom of the league in red zone scoring and the talk of the town was whether or not Dallas should go more hurry up, because it was more successful. Dallas was among the lowest scoring first half teams, meaning their game plans were trash.

Jerry when he brought in Linehan squarely laid the blame of not running the ball exclusively on the coaches.

 

[tyke1doe]

Let me use small words so you understand. He has been free to say what he wants. He hasn't been under contract for a while now. He left the organization march 2014 not a bad word said about the cowboys. He retired in 2016, with nothing to say to his old organization. So why now? Why bring up any ill feelings now? The opportunity would have been when he was with our rival. So it took him 3 years removed from football and 5 years away from the cowboys to make his feelings known? Sounds like someone who just needs attention.

You mean, and give additional bulletin board material to the Cowboys who have to play the Commanders twice?
You'll notice that only certain players say bad things about their fellow teammates, and even that rarely.
The NFL is a tight fraternity. Some things you just don't do unless you're a star or a player who isn't going to be in the league long.
Criticizing fellow players is a no no. That's why many players don't make very good NFL commentators when they leave the game. They can't criticize teammates or players because they won't hear the end of it.
There are many reasons why players wouldn't speak out against former teammates while they're still in the league.

 

[khiladi]

Cowboy Offensive Scoring - Week 1 - 8 (Phillips as head coach): 20.1 ppg
Cowboy Offensive Scoring - Week 9-16 (Garrett as head coach): 29.1 ppg

Cowboy Defensive Points Allowed - Week 1-8: 29.0 ppg
Cowboy Defensive Points Allowed - Week 9-16: 25.5 ppg

Bigger delta seen on the offensive side of the ball post coaching change.

The biggest delta is the TOs by the Cowboys defense that played more aggressively with nothing to lose against bad teams primarily. Go back and look at them.. Dallas offense was afforded more chances, while Garrett played ball control.

There is a reason why, when the pressure around Garrett’s play-calling in 2013 was getting hot and he fired Rob Ryan, he brought up the lack of TOs by the defense and it’s inability to provide his offense with more scoring opportunities.

Garrett always scapegoated the defense.

 

[Rockport]

Don't be scared. Just say how you feel. You will feel vindicated after you say it out loud I promise

Scared? You don’t know me very well. To answer your question just look up the definition of credibility.

 

[Rockport]

Yes, because asking for clarification when you don't understand what someone is saying is always "too bad."

I guess you never went to school. Everyone should know what the definition of credibility is.

 

[Plankton]

and what was darren woodsons excuse? He said the same things bout romo

As much as I love Darren Woodson, he never played on a team that Romo was the starting QB for. His perspective, while more credible than many of us, is lacking first person experience.

 

[charron]

Or maybe it's the first time the guy sat down for an interview with the locals?

But nah, you go ahead with your 'conspiracy theory' on the whole thing, because you can't handle what the guy said.

LOL Yea I can't handle something he said that doesn't affect me in any way. Maybe he should wait another 10 years to he hated all 8 years of being here.

 

[CowboyStar88]

As much as I love Darren Woodson, he never played on a team that Romo was the starting QB for. His perspective, while more credible than many of us, is lacking first person experience.

People are quick to dismiss what Woodson has said about Romo in the past. I can’t link the site, but a quick google search from 2013 will bring you an interview by Woodson.

Like I stated I’m sure there is a lot of truth to what Hatcher and other players have to say about Romo that aren’t flattering, but these same players also have said glowing things about him.





On what he expects from Tony Romo:

“I expect a lot out of Tony. I always have. When Tony first came in his rookie year, there was something about the kid. He walked in on the first day of camp and we had Chad Hutchinson and Drew Henson and those guys, the first day I was sitting there with Sean Payton, and he said hey, this kid is special. I said he’s the best quarterback on this team right now, and I saw him in three days. Three days at camp. There was something about the guy so my expectations of Tony over the years have always been high.”

 

[Stash]

LOL Yea I can't handle something he said that doesn't affect me in any way. Maybe he should wait another 10 years to he hated all 8 years of being here.

You sure sound "affected"...

 

[Plankton]

People are quick to dismiss what Woodson has said about Romo in the past. I can’t link the site, but a quick google search from 2013 will bring you an interview by Woodson.

Like I stated I’m sure there is a lot of truth to what Hatcher and other players have to say about Romo that aren’t flattering, but these same players also have said glowing things about him.





On what he expects from Tony Romo:

“I expect a lot out of Tony. I always have. When Tony first came in his rookie year, there was something about the kid. He walked in on the first day of camp and we had Chad Hutchinson and Drew Henson and those guys, the first day I was sitting there with Sean Payton, and he said hey, this kid is special. I said he’s the best quarterback on this team right now, and I saw him in three days. Three days at camp. There was something about the guy so my expectations of Tony over the years have always been high.”

Oh, look. I'm not saying that there isn't a degree of truth to what Hatcher and others have related in regards to Romo. All I'm saying is that Woodson never played on a team where Romo was the #1 QB. His perspective, while more informed than ours, is entirely based on second hand info.

 

[charron]

You mean, and give additional bulletin board material to the Cowboys who have to play the Commanders twice?
You'll notice that only certain players say bad things about their fellow teammates, and even that rarely.
The NFL is a tight fraternity. Some things you just don't do unless you're a star or a player who isn't going to be in the league long.
Criticizing fellow players is a no no. That's why many players don't make very good NFL commentators when they leave the game. They can't criticize teammates or players because they won't hear the end of it.
There are many reasons why players wouldn't speak out against former teammates while they're still in the league.

I don't mind him criticizing. I'm only asking why now after he's been retired for 3 years and away from the team for 5 years. Then you say it's such a circus you hated it everyday but were here for 8 years so you must not have hated it that much. if he didn't like how things were going then he should have said something at the time or soon after he left, be a man not a coward. Heck he could have said something 3 years ago when he was done with football but he didn't. Doing this now IMHO makes him look dumb. Hm 2 disgruntled employees Hatcher and AB, both handle things differently I guess, both sound like babies.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Oh, look. I'm not saying that there isn't a degree of truth to what Hatcher and others have related in regards to Romo. All I'm saying is that Woodson never played on a team where Romo was the #1 QB. His perspective, while more informed than ours, is entirely based on second hand info.

I get what your saying. I’m just trying to point out how complimentary he was in the article from 6 years ago, and he talked about when he was on the team with Romo as a rookie. He has first hand experience about who Romo is, but what should we believe? What he said 6 years ago or what he said recently?

 

[khiladi]

Woodsom never dissed Romo recently. What he stated was that when he asks around the Dallas locker-room why the team prefers Dak, it’s not because he’s a better QB, it’s because he supposedly has the ‘it’ factor. Woodson at the same time said that Romo was a pocket QB and did everything better.

We also all know that ‘it’ reason was hogwash, because when Romo was here, everybody said he had “moxie” and teams were desperately waiting for his return to save the season, to the point they would rush him back from injuries like in 2015. This team always believed Romo was going to bring this team back, considering all his comebacks.

And it’s basically hogwash also because that roster that Woodson spoke about was totally different and most of them didn’t play with Romo. It’s clear that the Dallas office was trying to justify their decision to sell Dak, particularly when they went on the ‘win streak’ again after the Cooper trade.

 

[cern]

Scared? You don’t know me very well. To answer your question just look up the definition of credibility.

what does the definition of credibility have to do with you???

 

[khiladi]

Also, Darren Woodson in January of this year, when people tried to compare Dak to Russell Wilson via stats, he said he doesn’t buy it. In this context, after the Giants game where Dak made some nice passes, he referenced Seattle’s ability to cover on the outside,

Can he consistently throw it in tight windows? Because right now there is nothing consistent about his game. If you’re looking at him as an elite passer, he’s not there yet, and I don’t know if he will ever get there. He’s going to have to prove it to me.”

Even when talking about Romo, he said explicitly that he believes Romo is a better QB and pretty much everybody does. That is how he qualified the ‘it’ factor...

 

[Dre11]

Cowboy Offensive Scoring - Week 1 - 8 (Phillips as head coach): 20.1 ppg
Cowboy Offensive Scoring - Week 9-16 (Garrett as head coach): 29.1 ppg

Cowboy Defensive Points Allowed - Week 1-8: 29.0 ppg
Cowboy Defensive Points Allowed - Week 9-16: 25.5 ppg

Bigger delta seen on the offensive side of the ball post coaching change.

Which proves my point even more the defense got better after Wade left, I also believe the turnovers on defense went up as well. That's more of an indictment of his defense. Also, Hatcher himself contradicted himself and made his claim even more dumb. He said the defense quit because they didn't like Romo...lol they got Wade fires then turned around and played better when Wade left

 

[MyFairLady]

Jason Hatcher. Good grief. JAG city.

 

[Rockport]

what does the definition of credibility have to do with you???

Because you have none and have no clue what it is.