Salary Cap space - Updated

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Fuzzee said:
Signing "our" own strategy sounds good if they give a home town discount, but don't over look the RB and LB market, Zeke will ask for Levon Bell type money and stud LBs Jaylon Smith and Vander- Esch (rookie) will get a sweet pay day down the road.

Rapoport reports CJ Mosely deal is worth $85 million with $51 million in guaranteed money. That’s bigger than the four-year, $54 million deal that Kwon Alexander agreed to with the 49ers and would set a new standard for inside linebackers.

As expected, the Jets have been busy in free agency since the legal tampering window opened on Monday. Mosley is joined at linebacker by Anthony Barr and the team has also reached agreements with wide receivers Jamison Crowder and Josh Bellamy.
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Agreed. It’s not like we are getting discounts from our players at all.
 
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AmericanCowboy said:
Agreed. It’s not like we are getting discounts from our players at all.
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Cash wise you aren't, but extending your own gives you cap benefits. Extensions are added to current (in most cases lower) deals, lowering the deal's AAV and giving an additional year(s) to spread money.
 
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tm1119 said:
I wish I was an artist...someone needs to draw a cap monster in its natural habitat of “cap hell”...this board is absolutely terrified of it, might as well make up a mascot to the ridiculousness of it all.
Or if someone can maybe just photoshop Gritty from the Flyers in a scary looking place.

But in reality our cap monster in “cap hell” is just Jerry sitting on his super yatch with some cheap strippers....
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Even in 2013 after the cap stayed flat for 5 years............it was 123m in 2009 and still 123m in 2013..... the Cowboys were not hamstrung from signing guys or forced to cut players

That is on top of the 10m penalty levied on the team after the Miles Austin fiasco

DAL gave Romo 119m, they re-upped SLee, Witten, DWare, MAustin, Ratliff Spears, ASpencer, Church, TNewman, Hamlin, TSmith , Free, RW11, MBIII, Dez

They signed BCarr, GHardy, HMelton, TO, Kosier and several bargain bin FAs

even last year DAL left 30m on the vine that they could have used to add talent or rolled over to this year... they still rolled over 12m with 30m in Dead Money..... they weren't interested in spending more
 
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AmericanCowboy said:
Agreed. It’s not like we are getting discounts from our players at all.
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TSmith, TFred, SLee, Witten all gave big discounts

TCrawford, ZMartin and TWill gave fair extensions

Heath, Beasley, CJones were happy to get multi-year deals

Everyone else left is on their Rookie deals

DLaw wants max dollars
Dak will get paid because he is a QB
We will see with ACooper, BJones, LCollins and Zeke
 
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Nightman said:
NFL Salary Cap- 188.2m
Rollover from 2018- 11.7m
Total Cap Space- 199.9m

Current Cap Space- 25.9m ........3/7
includes:
DLaw- 20.5m FT
RGregory- (955k) rebate for suspension
DThompson- 720k
JMLillard- 720k
DRoss- 645k ERFA

Need info for
Witten- 2m plus incentives
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LOL.......25 million. There was some drunk guy I was arguing with the other day and I told him we had 25 million left and he went on a tirade.

I think its pretty easy to see that if we were to sign any one of the big names left, especially Dak , there isnt much left without getting creative.
 
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LOL.......25 million. There was some drunk guy I was arguing with the other day and I told him we had 25 million left and he went on a tirade.

I think its pretty easy to see that if we were to sign any one of the big names left, especially Dak , there isnt much left without getting creative.
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Yeah but the cowboys didn’t even restructure players this offseason. I believe the cowboys could easily restructure some of our highest paid players, like Fredrick and Martin to free up even more money.
 
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CowboyRoy said:
LOL.......25 million. There was some drunk guy I was arguing with the other day and I told him we had 25 million left and he went on a tirade.

I think its pretty easy to see that if we were to sign any one of the big names left, especially Dak , there isnt much left without getting creative.
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Hey, I was that "drunk guy"...and that was yesterday. And now lets look at nightman's post from yesterday...

"Current Cap Space- 22m ........3/13
includes
Cam Flemming- 2/8.5m
JOlawale- 3/5.4m"

Oh, wait it's not $25M??? What a shocker. Proof your an Idiot #1.

And that wasn't even the point of the entire argument. You're so dumb that you didn't even get the point of what I was saying. I was telling you that cowboys have the cap space and flexibility to make significant moves if they chose to. Which they do. And since you take nightman's word for the cap space, go take a look at the rest of his posts that will tell you the same thing I was telling you.

So put your helmet back on and shut up.
 
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LOL.......25 million. There was some drunk guy I was arguing with the other day and I told him we had 25 million left and he went on a tirade.

I think its pretty easy to see that if we were to sign any one of the big names left, especially Dak , there isnt much left without getting creative.
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Outside of Dak, the re-signings would actually save cap space. Re-signing The 3 of Tank, Cooper, and Dak would save roughly $10 million against the cap. No creativity needed - just standard deals.
 
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DakPresgoat said:
Yeah but the cowboys didn’t even restructure players this offseason. I believe the cowboys could easily restructure some of our highest paid players, like Fredrick and Martin to free up even more money.
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sure they could, but thats bad business. When you have to push things into the future, its just another sign that you dont really have the money.
 
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ksg811 said:
Outside of Dak, the re-signings would actually save cap space. Re-signing The 3 of Tank, Cooper, and Dak would save roughly $10 million against the cap. No creativity needed - just standard deals.
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Only by making this years salary cheap and further years inflated. Again, you guys are trying to find ways to push stuff into the future, to make room now. When you do that, its just another sign that you dont have the money.
 
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CowboyRoy said:
Only by making this years salary cheap and further years inflated. Again, you guys are trying to find ways to push stuff into the future, to make room now. When you do that, its just another sign that you dont have the money.
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The cap goes up every year. It’s good business to push into the future. Would you rather pay 10 dollars when you’re making 100 or 110?
 
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ksg811 said:
The cap goes up every year. It’s good business to push into the future. Would you rather pay 10 dollars when you’re making 100 or 110?
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I guess you are entitled to your opinion. Restructuring is what teams do to get under the cap when they dont have the money. In the Cowboys case they have many high priced guys coming due on big contracts. Pushing salaries into the future will make that even more difficult.
 
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