One theory on why were not signing our guys now

eastsideboy · Mar 18, 2019

Maybe were waiting till draft day to trade tank for a first. That gets him off the books. Then we sign our guys. "technically" it makes sense. Otherwise why are we dragging this out.

StarBoyz83 · Mar 18, 2019

eastsideboy said:
Maybe were waiting till draft day to trade tank for a first. That gets him off the books. Then we sign our guys. "technically" it makes sense. Otherwise why are we dragging this out.

Hed have to sign the tag before the draft. If I was him I wouldnt.

eastsideboy · Mar 18, 2019

StarBoyz83 said:
Hed have to sign the tag before the draft. If I was him I wouldnt.

I forgot about that. But if we have him sign it before the draft he gets a massive payday from somebody.

xwalker · Mar 18, 2019

eastsideboy said:
Maybe were waiting till draft day to trade tank for a first. That gets him off the books. Then we sign our guys. "technically" it makes sense. Otherwise why are we dragging this out.

At least 5 DEs were tagged this year.

At least 3 have not signed a new contract yet.

I don't know the status of the others.

OmerV · Mar 18, 2019

eastsideboy said:
Maybe were waiting till draft day to trade tank for a first. That gets him off the books. Then we sign our guys. "technically" it makes sense. Otherwise why are we dragging this out.

Remember that most of the “our guys” are still under contract - they aren’t free agents that either have to be signed or franchised like Lawrence. No near term deadline to worry about.

Risen Star · Mar 18, 2019

I just think Lawrence has a really high opinion of himself and is unreasonable in negotiations.

eastsideboy · Mar 18, 2019

OmerV said:
Remember that most of the “our guys” are still under contract - they aren’t free agents that either have to be signed or franchised like Lawrence. No near term deadline to worry about.

"technically" you're right. I just don't like seeing us kicking a lot of big contacts down the road. We only get one franchise tag.

JBond · Mar 18, 2019

eastsideboy said:
Maybe were waiting till draft day to trade tank for a first. That gets him off the books. Then we sign our guys. "technically" it makes sense. Otherwise why are we dragging this out.

KC insiders are talking about the Chiefs going all in this year with Mahomes on his rookie deal. 2 firsts. I hope and pray it happens.

Pessimist_cowboy · Mar 18, 2019

I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of a trade. Stephan is extremely cheap and he’s probably convincing Jerry to stay put in negotiations and if we can’t work it out we could trade him.

eastsideboy · Mar 18, 2019

JBond said:
KC insiders are talking about the Chiefs going all in this year with Mahomes on his rookie deal. 2 firsts. I hope and pray it happens.

From your mouth to gods ears :bow:

OmerV · Mar 18, 2019

eastsideboy said:
"technically" you're right. I just don't like seeing us kicking a lot of big contacts down the road. We only get one franchise tag.

The point is that unlike with Lawrence there is no difference between whether they get them done today, tomorrow, next week or next month. It’s not pay them today or lose them. I expect a few will get done In the next month or two and maybe one or two more during the season. And they may even push one off until after the season (Byron Jones?)

eastsideboy · Mar 18, 2019

Pessimist_cowboy said:
I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of a trade. Stephan is extremely cheap and he’s probably convincing Jerry to stay put in negotiations and if we can’t work it out we could trade him.

Exactly what i was thinking. Ether draft day or close to it.

eastsideboy · Mar 18, 2019

OmerV said:
The point is that unlike with Lawrence there is no difference between whether they get them done today, tomorrow, next week or next month. It’s not pay them today or lose them. I expect a few will get done In the next month or two and maybe one or two more during the season. And they may even push one off until after the season (Byron Jones?)

I think you're right. The tag either goes on dak or jones.

OmerV · Mar 18, 2019

eastsideboy said:
I think you're right. The tag either goes on dak or jones.

Of course Jerry has said Dak’s contract will come soon. I guess we’ll see. As for Jones, I think there is some chance they don’t extend him at all if Awuzie and others play well. I’m not saying they wouldn’t like to keep him longer, but if salary cap money needs to be cleared he could be deemed more expendable than Dak or Zeke or Tank.

eastsideboy · Mar 19, 2019

OmerV said:
Of course Jerry has said Dak’s contract will come soon. I guess we’ll see. As for Jones, I think there is some chance they don’t extend him at all if Awuzie and others play well. I’m not saying they wouldn’t like to keep him longer, but if salary cap money needs to be cleared he could be deemed more expendable than Dak or Zeke or Tank.

Great points.

heir · Mar 19, 2019

I hate to agree with Mickey Spags but he is right on this. There is no way Tank's agent wants to be the first to sign a deal with all the other DEs that are tagged. He will wait so the others can set the market and then try beat that deal and not the other way around.

Beast_from_East · Mar 19, 2019

Tank has not signed his tag and correct me if I am wrong, but until he signs the tag he cannot be traded since technically he is not under contract and you can only trade guys under contract.

So until Tank signs his tag, we cant trade him.

Beast_from_East · Mar 19, 2019

eastsideboy said:
I forgot about that. But if we have him sign it before the draft he gets a massive payday from somebody.

The reason a player does not sign the tag and should not sign the tag, is because once you sign the tag you are officially under contract. That means you can be traded and it also means that you are required to show up to every mandatory event. You have to show up for mandatory mini-camps, training camp, preseason, ect…...While its true your one year tag is completely guaranteed, what if you get injured like tearing your ACL or tearing your achilles? No long term contract for you.

That is why you dont sign the tag. Dont sign, you are not under contract. That means you dont have to show for a dam thing and the team cannot fine you for missing anything because you are not under contract. You also avoid the possibility of getting hurt and losing out on a long term deal.

If DLaw has a good agent, he will not let DLaw sign his franchise tag. I dont blame him, its simply not smart business to do that.

DasSchnitzel · Mar 19, 2019

I think we're in a weird spot where all these tagged DEs are waiting for DLaw to set a market and DLaw is waiting for one of them to do the same thing. It's like all the tagged DEs and their teams are in a game of chicken right now.

1LoyalCowboyFan · Mar 19, 2019

eastsideboy said:
Maybe were waiting till draft day to trade tank for a first. That gets him off the books. Then we sign our guys. "technically" it makes sense. Otherwise why are we dragging this out.

They always wait til the second week? It’s their time to shine!

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