Tanks seeks 22.5, Cowboys offer 20

[DoctorChicken]

Would our pass rush suffer without Lawrence yes, yes it would

Is Lawrence a top dollar de? Imo no he is not ...I’m sorry but over 20 million you need to impact the game for all four quarters at least 14 out of 16 games and make other teams gameplan for you

MARKET VALUE

Do people not understand these words?

 

[DRella]

MARKET VALUE

Do people not understand these words?

Yes and do you understand that he isn't worth 22.5 million a season?

 

[glimmerman]

I would like to see D-Law come out and fire his agent. Sign the 20 million long rem deal and blame the greed on his agent.

 

[Sydla]

Not when a player and agent go back on their word to the organization due to greed.

Very easily this can be turned around. Trade Lawrence for close to Mack return, trade for Quinn, sign Suh with saved money, draft accordingly. I don't think fans would see this a failure.

He's an Eagles fan.

If the Cowboys signed Lawrence to a $20MM+ AAV contract with a crap ton of guaranteed money, he'd be here talking about what a bad deal it was and how the Cowboys screwed up their cap.

 

[G2]

It’s difficult to say. I can’t imagine what we’d of had without either of them at the time.

I’m not saying Lawrence is worth what he’s asking for. I’m arguing what will the effects be to our DL, defense and overall team without Him, Gregory and Irving?

Are we really prepared for that? Or is it going to be similar to some of our cost cutting decisions to premium talent it took another failing season followed by using a 1st round pick and a trade to overcome?

Again, you're placing too much emphasis on rotational players. When you take an honest look at their production.

 

[Denim Chicken]

So in your world, the Cowboys should hand him like $70MM guaranteed. And then if the surgery shows that he was far more injured than they realized, it's OK because Dallas can eat the money and get a player that might not be the same player post surgery?

The only people that would say that are Lawrence fans above the Cowboys.

In no world would a rational fan want a team to hand over oodles of guaranteed money to a guy who needs surgery and could be a worse player post surgery.

I'm arguing why, from the player's perspective, he would delay. Obviously the Cowboys are going to have the same concerns from their side.

Both sides must come to an equitable agreement.

It so funny Lawrence is getting all this hate from some of the same people who wanted to pay ET crazy money coming of multiple injured years & lambasted the FO for being cheap in free agency.

 

[xwalker]

So in your world, the Cowboys should hand him like $70MM guaranteed. And then if the surgery shows that he was far more injured than they realized, it's OK because Dallas can eat the money and get a player that might not be the same player post surgery?

The only people that would say that are Lawrence fans above the Cowboys.

In no world would a rational fan want a team to hand over oodles of guaranteed money to a guy who needs surgery and could be a worse player post surgery.

They should delay most of the guarantee until March of 2020 or have the guarantee kick in once he plays a certain number of games in 2019.

 

[ShortRound]

 

[CWR]

Tank is a really good player, but paying him $20M/year will handcuff this team and I don't feel he is that good. I would have expected a $20M/year player to have more of a presence in the Divisional game.

Hopefully at the age of 26? He is entering his prime and his late season struggles have been more about his torn labrum than his abilities.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Exactly why it's not a good idea to wait.
Lmao, seriously, you're ok with that scenario? You're ok with signing him and him falling off the planet?

Team first. Not one player above the rest.

It's not about what I'm OK with. My ideal scenario is we sign him cheap with as little guaranteed $ as possible. I have no bearing on the situation. I'm telling you why I understand it from the players perspective & what he is doing. Some of you simply do not understand this is a business and letting your emotions get the better of you.

 

[DRella]

He's an Eagles fan.

If the Cowboys signed Lawrence to a $20MM+ AAV contract with a crap ton of guaranteed money, he'd be here talking about what a bad deal it was and how the Cowboys screwed up their cap.

Far from an Eagles fan!!! If anything would have to question who you are a fan of when you are willing to handcuff the Cowboys long term by signing someone that isn't worth what hes asking for!!!

Short sightedness is for the weak and uneducated. The Cowboys either hold firm and get Tank signed on their terms. Or they trade his ***. Either way its a win for the organization.

 

[Swagger]

I'm a big Lawrence fan.

You can't really blame him for negotiating the best deal he can for what will be his main contract in the NFL. He has produced on the field the last two seasons and is in theory entering his prime.

He has earned the big bucks in my view.

Without him we would need to get lucky in the draft or we will be relying upon Dak Prescott's arm to win us games (god help us if the latter).

 

[Diehardblues]

Absolutely correct. I just don't get some people. We finally rid ourselves of overpaid players costing us dead money. And now they want to sign players up that will further impact our team down the line. I think I have shaken my head into a concussion this morning.

It’s really not up to fans to decide what players are worth. All we can do is lobby for them to stay or leave then analyze the results thereafter.

 

[Swagger]

The simple answer is to draft a QB in the Second Round, let Prescott play out his contract this forthcoming season then let him walk, go with the rookie QB from 2020 and we can pay all of our key players.

Our new formula should be what has worked for a lot of teams in reaching Superbowls in recent years - work with a good rookie QB and build the roster around the rest so not having to knee cap the team paying a QB circa $30 million a season.

 

[Diehardblues]

Not when a player and agent go back on their word to the organization due to greed.

Very easily this can be turned around. Trade Lawrence for close to Mack return, trade for Quinn, sign Suh with saved money, draft accordingly. I don't think fans would see this a failure.

That’s the first reasonable solution I’ve heard in letting Lawrence go .

 

[CowboyMort]

I haven't read each and every post in this thread, so I am not sure if it was brought up, but I was thinking about state income tax. At 20mil a year this would actually be the equivalent of 25mil in California and net as much or more than Mack and Donald in actual dollars in his pocket. Both California and Illinois do have income tax.

 

[garyv]

So make it $21m and call it a day.

If the numbers are true this will absolutely get done.

I stated this in another post offer a take it or leave it deal 84 mil for 4 years either sign it or we are moving on....

 

[Diehardblues]

The simple answer is to draft a QB in the Second Round, let Prescott play out his contract this forthcoming season then let him walk, go with the rookie QB from 2020 and we can pay all of our key players.

Our new formula should be what has worked for a lot of teams in reaching Superbowls in recent years - work with a good rookie QB and build the roster around the rest so not having to knee cap the team paying a QB circa $30 million a season.

Will Grier is our guy in the 2nd round.

 

[G2]

It's not about what I'm OK with. My ideal scenario is we sign him cheap with as little guaranteed $ as possible. I have no bearing on the situation. I'm telling you why I understand it from the players perspective & what he is doing. Some of you simply do not understand this is a business and letting your emotions get the better of you.

Lol, yeah sure you get it. You have contradicted yourself quite often in this thread.

 

[garyv]

So make it $21m and call it a day.

If the numbers are true this will absolutely get done.

so 6 years 126 mil which is 21 mil a season I'm curious how much is guaranteed ?