Tanks seeks 22.5, Cowboys offer 20

buybuydandavis

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Meh. Average salary means little.

How much guaranteed over how many years?

I do like that Tank upped his ask. He's got Jerry by the short hairs and will keep squeezing to get Jerry to up his offer again.

My real hope is that a deal *doesn't* get done. But I appreciate Tank's (or his agent's) hard bargaining.
 

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I'd say deuces tank... good luck. But we literally have no one outside of him.

Which is gives Tank extra leverage. As you say, if not for the problems with Gregory (and maybe Crawford), we'd just let Tank walk.
 

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And yet his numbers are almost identical to Mack and Von Miller...……..the two guys he wants to be paid like.
You can bold all you want and have your little temper tantrum... it doesn't make you right or an authority

DLaw is simply not worth Mack or Donald money....(you said Miller but Miller is getting 19m a year)
 

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That's funny. For a guy that disappears in the back part of a season and is a non-factor in the playoffs that wants over 10% of the cap (one of 53 players, mind you) and who refused to intelligently get his shoulder fixed when he should have? Trade the diva.

He doesn't touch the ball every play like a QB. He doesn't dominate games. While the Cowboys are having trouble with the position due to their own mistakes, don't let this greedy diva have his way. Find a player that plays with intensity ALL SEASON LONG
 

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Shup with all the bold Beast? You worried peeps won't read you?
Post on the reg.

My bad.

My cat likes to sleep on top of my keyboard and he stepped on something and turned on the bold font and locked out the format bar. It took me like an hour fiddling around with all the function keys before I figured out how to turn off that stupid bold font.

Mr. Sparkle is being a bad kitty today:laugh:
 

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You can bold all you want and have your little temper tantrum... it doesn't make you right or an authority

DLaw is simply not worth Mack or Donald money....(you said Miller but Miller is getting 19m a year)

Seriously dude, you used to be one of my favorite posters on this site with your excellent cap knowledge, but lately you have just been acting like a dick. Whats up with that?

As I stated in another post, I had a small issue with my kitty and the keyboard and the bold function got turned on and locked out. It took awhile for me to figure out what the problem was and to fix it. You notice that all my recent post are not bold, you do recognize that right?

So there is no temper tantrum or bolding because I am yelling and want attention, you just jumped the gun and assumed things. And the numbers I am citing are from a previous post in this thread from Twitter comparing the last 32 games between Mack and DLaw and their numbers are virtually identical. Here, I will prove it to you since you seem to question anybody that doesn't agree with you lately bro. They look pretty dam similar to me, in fact DLaw is actually higher in every category except tackles where he is 3 behind Mack.

Lawrence's last 32 games: 25 sacks, 29 TFL, 49 QB hits, 122 tackles
Mack's last 32 games: 23 sacks, 25 TFL, 40 QB hits, 125 tackles
 

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Fans are hilarious....

“Wait...what?!?! He wants $22M?”

[wipes Cheetos dust off T-shirt before grabbing the remote]

“I’d only offer him $20M per year. If he doesn’t like it I’d trade the diva!!!”
 

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Get rid of his greedy ***. I hate players like this. He’s wAaay overrated. Not even in the same universe as Donald.
 

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Seriously dude, you used to be one of my favorite posters on this site with your excellent cap knowledge, but lately you have just been acting like a dick. Whats up with that?

As I stated in another post, I had a small issue with my kitty and the keyboard and the bold function got turned on and locked out. It took awhile for me to figure out what the problem was and to fix it. You notice that all my recent post are not bold, you do recognize that right?

So there is no temper tantrum or bolding because I am yelling and want attention, you just jumped the gun and assumed things. And the numbers I am citing are from a previous post in this thread from Twitter comparing the last 32 games between Mack and DLaw and their numbers are virtually identical. Here, I will prove it to you since you seem to question anybody that doesn't agree with you lately bro. They look pretty dam similar to me, in fact DLaw is actually higher in every category except tackles where he is 3 behind Mack.

Lawrence's last 32 games: 25 sacks, 29 TFL, 49 QB hits, 122 tackles
Mack's last 32 games: 23 sacks, 25 TFL, 40 QB hits, 125 tackles
You get called out for yelling and I am a dick....... back at you chachi
 

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I love the idiots that try to use a middling year by KMack as a reason to overpay DLaw

"KMack got overpaid and underperformed so we must give DLaw the same amount"

OVernon, RQuinn, VMiller, JJ Watt, NSuh all got paid big money and fell off for various reasons

Why can't guys get paid and take off in a good way like ADonald
 

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Fans also think it's just something as simple as that 2.5 million. It's also about the guaranteed money, length of the contract, how that contract is structured, egos (owners/players/agents/family), effect on future signings/contracts, etc that aren't known that may also be holding the deal up. A couple days ago fans just thought Jerry was being cheap, now that it's been said it was $20 million now many of those same fans are saying Tank is being greedy. Tank is a really good player, not a great player and he wants great player money and he needs surgery. Tank thinks he's being disrespected and Jerry should also feel disrespected since we're looking at paying a player $20 million or more that hasn't gotten that surgery yet. For top dollar he better be in top form sooner not later. $22 million is a lot of money and it's hard to fault Jerry or any other GM thinking hard if that money might be better invested in a different player/players.

We need a pass rush and yeah, we are in a bit of corner with Tank, but any deal we work now, we are basically locked with him for 3-4 years. Paying market price is one thing, but this is a player looking to set a new market price and there is a legitimate question if he is worth that price, again he is very good but can/will he be great. This isn't a player like Donald, Thomas or Julio that has played at elite levels for multiple years.
How bout we give him 20m for 2 years fully guaranteed and if he gets 30 sacks then we give him another 50m for 2 more years
 

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You get called out for yelling and I am a dick....... back at you chachi

I was not yelling, I had a problem with my keyboard and the bold got stuck on for a couple of hours. I made a post about it but you were apparently to lazy to go read it. You just jumped to conclusions as usual.

You are just mad because you said Mack and DLaw didnt have similar numbers and you got called out on it.......they do.....here they are and they look pretty dam similar to me, but I am sure you are going to say its an optical illusion, LOL.

Lawrence's last 32 games: 25 sacks, 29 TFL, 49 QB hits, 122 tackles
Mack's last 32 games: 23 sacks, 25 TFL, 40 QB hits, 125 tackles
 

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I love the idiots that try to use a middling year by KMack as a reason to overpay DLaw

"KMack got overpaid and underperformed so we must give DLaw the same amount"

OVernon, RQuinn, VMiller, JJ Watt, NSuh all got paid big money and fell off for various reasons

Why can't guys get paid and take off in a good way like ADonald

Last time I checked, 32 games was longer than one season...…………….DLaw and Mack over last 32 games are practically the same.


Lawrence's last 32 games: 25 sacks, 29 TFL, 49 QB hits, 122 tackles
Mack's last 32 games: 23 sacks, 25 TFL, 40 QB hits, 125 tackles
 

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How bout we give him 20m for 2 years fully guaranteed and if he gets 30 sacks then we give him another 50m for 2 more years

And when his agent laughs in your face and tells you to go learn how NFL contracts are done, what is going to be your response?
 
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