Supposedly Byron Jones and Jourdan Lewis have been made available for trades

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If you find and pay a QB this is really what you need to do with most guys
Everyone one else you have to make serious decisions about
If you want to keep them you extend them early, if not you trade them with a year left and replace them
The price of a QB is so high it’s really the best model
Sign them or trade them with a year left
I was fine with not signing tank last year because of the other issues but there is no doubt it would have been cheaper
For it to work you must draft very well and look down the road, not immediate needs
I think that was the thought with taco but hasn’t worked out
I think that was the thought with Switzer but we gave up on him too quickly
You would have some tough choices and move on from good players but with QB contracts that may be the best option

You're on the nose about the Taco mistake. That's essentially forced the team to keep Lawrence. And the issues with both Gregory and Irving have tied your hands and locked you in. You have to pay this guy. You let him walk and you've got NOTHING LEFT on your defensive line. And if the numbers being talked about - $22.5 and $20 million are accurate? Split the difference and pay the guy an extra $5 million and get the deal done already. Let him have his surgery and hope that your best defender is healthy and ready for week one.

When this team can overpay all of the guys that they do, an extra $5 million is a stupid stand to take with Lawrence.
 

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Byron
-Consistently good player, and elite this last year
-Never missed a game and played higher % of snaps than any CB in the league last year
-He's flawless off the field
-Still very young
-Physical freak
-Hands of stone

He's worth the money
 
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I would hate to lose them but if the Walker trade taught me anything is anyone can be traded if the offer is good enough. I agree it is human to get upset but it is part of the business that any player in any sport can be traded and a professional should continue to handle their job regardless.
 

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I would hate to lose them but if the Walker trade taught me anything is anyone can be traded if the offer is good enough. I agree it is human to get upset but it is part of the business that any player in any sport can be traded and a professional should continue to handle their job regardless.

 

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I would feel better about moving either player if the D line was in a better place. Of if they are upgrading the D line, while moving one.
 

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Byron
-Consistently good player, and elite this last year
-Never missed a game and played higher % of snaps than any CB in the league last year
-He's flawless off the field
-Still very young
-Physical freak
-Hands of stone

He's worth the money
I agree. It's rare you have all of that in a player.
 

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This is dumb. Hard to believe the Cowboys would consider wanting to trade either one of these players who are young and can play DB very well. I would rather trade D-Law and his constantly injured, aging body and greedily demanding $22.5 mil/season self, than the much younger and cheaper to keep Byron Jones and Jourdan Lewis.
The Jones boys know it all, no telling what they are doing.
Trade Byron. Get a first back and grab some more dline. Or a safety
LOL no way they get a first for jones.
 

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To an extent. I cheer for the organization. Before FA yes the Cowboys were like Family, year in and year out you knew who was going to be on the team. I never concerned myself about Bob Lilly becoming a FA or Randy White they were Cowboys and would remain Cowboys through out their careers. Now we have FA where players come and go, yesterdays enemy could very well be one of your key players tomorrow. I said when FA came that I was not a fan of it and still am not a fan of it but it is what it is. My loyalty is too the Dallas Cowboys franchise.
 

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Also, we aren’t getting a first for Byron. We aren’t getting a second.

Teams will wait for him to be a FA and battle it out. All that will happen here is that we will lose value with no viable option to replace.

Seeing as how we don’t have a first round pick, I don’t expect us to replace him in this draft. They sure as heck don’t view Lewis as much since they are trying to rid of him. So we have Brown and Awuzie? Brown is JAG.
 

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I don't oppose this at all. I think if the Cowboys are truly going to resign Elliott, Jones is going to have to go.

Frankly, I'd resign Jones and let Elliott go but that's just my general opinion on not having to pour a lot of resources into the TB position in today's NFL.
 

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LOL this place. So we want Jones and Lawrence gone?

I hope this defense goes to crap. Maybe...finally Marinelli can get the boot and people shut up about Richards as well.

This team is going to crumble soon. You don’t trade away your best players for little to nothing and expect to get better.

And LOL at people talking up Awuzie who hasn’t shown anything remotely close to being anything better than average as a corner.
What makes you think they are trading him for little or nothing?

Also, elite CBs generally get more than 0 INTs in a season.
 

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I don't oppose this at all. I think if the Cowboys are truly going to resign Elliott, Jones is going to have to go.

Frankly, I'd resign Jones and let Elliott go but that's just my general opinion on not having to pour a lot of resources into the TB position in today's NFL.

They probably will let Jones walk in a year and make Elliott the highest paid RB in the league. It’ll be a mistake, but one is more flashy than the other.
 

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Also, we aren’t getting a first for Byron. We aren’t getting a second.

Teams will wait for him to be a FA and battle it out. All that will happen here is that we will lose value with no viable option to replace.

Seeing as how we don’t have a first round pick, I don’t expect us to replace him in this draft. They sure as heck don’t view Lewis as much since they are trying to rid of him. So we have Brown and Awuzie? Brown is JAG.

That's not necessarily true about teams waiting for a guy to hit FA in his last contract year.

Revis was traded in his contract year. Now I am not saying Jones is Revis but only pointing out that players are traded in their contract year.

You won't get a first for him but I bet you might get a 2nd for him.
 

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What makes you think they are trading him for little or nothing?

Also, elite CBs generally get more than 0 INTs in a season.

Nobody said “elite”. And I am calling it now, you are not getting a first or second for Byron Jones.

Teams will wait until we let him walk and go for him in FA.

And Revis has 0 INTs in 2010 with a similar coverage rate as Jones. So...there’s that.
 

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That's not necessarily true about teams waiting for a guy to hit FA in his last contract year.

Revis was traded in his contract year. Now I am not saying Jones is Revis but only pointing out that players are traded in their contract year.

I’m not making commentary in trading in a contract year, i’m saying teams aren’t going to give away valuable picks for a good corner. He’s a player you’d take a chance on in FA.
 

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Nobody said “elite”. And I am calling it now, you are not getting a first or second for Byron Jones.

Teams will wait until we let him walk and go for him in FA.

And Revis has 0 INTs in 2010 with a similar coverage rate as Jones. So...there’s that.
I'm sure they wouldn't trade him for anything less than a second.

And if you dont think he's elite, then why not try to trade him now, before they are forced to pay him elite money or watch him walk for a 4th or 5th rd comp pick
 

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I'm sure they wouldn't trade him for anything less than a second.

And if you dont think he's elite, then why not try to trade him now, before they are forced to pay him elite money or watch him walk for a 4th or 5th rd comp pick

You don’t know if he’s going to get “elite money”. I think Jones will ask for a good contract - however, if he has another season like he did in 2018, there is a good chance he starts to get discussed as one of the best corners in the league and “elite money” would be reasonable to ask for.

However, I believe Jones will fall somewhere in the middle and be very good but not exactly elite. I don’t want to give away a very good corner - they are valuable, we need it. I’m not looking to create another hole in the secondary because we sure as heck aren’t upgrading the safety position significantly any time soon.
 
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