Is Garrett the best evaluator of talent we have ever had?

[Vinnie2u]

I guess Bill Parcells never coached Dallas

 

[Jipper]

so much hate on here for the guy that has produced 3 division titles and 2 playoff wins in last 5 years.

you guys crack me up with the jg is terrible, should be coaching at a lower level...blah blah blah...doesnt it get old?

you can't have team success consistently and havr the coach be terrible...and despite the narrative you try to spin, this team has seen more success in the last 5 years than any other 5 year period going back to the 90s.

jg is a big part of that....now I'm not saying he's a great coach but to call him anything as negative as some of you are is just emotional venting bc you are pissed off the cowboys h avent advanced to the nfc championship game in decades...

just admit it and stop using the jg is a terrible coach line bc he's not and your emotional degrading of a better than average coach to make your fandom feel better gets really old

 

[Blackrain]

I guess we could say that if he ever accumulates enough talent to overcome his game day coaching and get us to a SB

 

[acr731]

1. Every one of us have a guy in the back of our mind we prefer over Garrett.But I heard something today from Broadus on the Draft Show where he said.."
2. "Garrett was the best talent evaluator this team has ever had"
3. ."I had to stop at that comment and think about it.I had not considered that part of his job.I just considered Will Clay to be the main brain there.But if that is true..then you have to give him more credit than he has received for the job of building the team the last 3 years.
4. It has improved a lot and normally I do not think of Garrett in the War Room as being a player.
   
   But I guess I am wrong there. Broadus should know.He has been around a bit. Hmmm..

Comments ftom the peanut gallery?

Broadus is right. Just look at all the championship hardware JG has earned in his tenure...

 

[Doomsay]

So, the record number of games lost to suspension are all on Jason, good to know.

 

[basel90]

Garrett is not a great talent evaluator. But why not be fair and clear here . Jerry had a lot of input on the final picks and trades as a GM. I am now encouraged that Stephen has more of input and deal making .

 

[Sydla]

so much hate on here for the guy that has produced 3 division titles and 2 playoff wins in last 5 years.

you guys crack me up with the jg is terrible, should be coaching at a lower level...blah blah blah...doesnt it get old?

you can't have team success consistently and havr the coach be terrible...and despite the narrative you try to spin, this team has seen more success in the last 5 years than any other 5 year period going back to the 90s.

jg is a big part of that....now I'm not saying he's a great coach but to call him anything as negative as some of you are is just emotional venting bc you are pissed off the cowboys h avent advanced to the nfc championship game in decades...

just admit it and stop using the jg is a terrible coach line bc he's not and your emotional degrading of a better than average coach to make your fandom feel better gets really old

He’s not terrible and people that say that are using hyperbole or overly emotional or just not very bright.

But he’s also not a great coach by any stretch. He’s pretty much average. If that’s good enough for some, so be it.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yes.

Just like Ryan Switzer is the best wide receiver the Cowboys have ever had, and Chad Hutchinson the best QB.

 

[ItzKelz]

1. Every one of us have a guy in the back of our mind we prefer over Garrett.But I heard something today from Broadus on the Draft Show where he said.."
2. "Garrett was the best talent evaluator this team has ever had"
3. ."I had to stop at that comment and think about it.I had not considered that part of his job.I just considered Will Clay to be the main brain there.But if that is true..then you have to give him more credit than he has received for the job of building the team the last 3 years.
4. It has improved a lot and normally I do not think of Garrett in the War Room as being a player.
   
   But I guess I am wrong there. Broadus should know.He has been around a bit. Hmmm..

Comments ftom the peanut gallery?

I'm not a Broadus fan but this is just his opinion and I tend to agree with it; if we are just talking about coaches. I personally think his time under Jimmy Johnson as a player and his time coaching under Nick Saben and his continued relationship with Saben gives him a different perspective on how he looks at players. Both Jimmy and Nick were and are 2 of the greatest college coaches of all time; largely because of how they were able to evaluate talent and IMO Jason he learned a thing or 2 from them. But with all of that said Will McClay is the driving force of identifying viable talent despite coaches, owners and GMs being involved.

 

[Redball Express]

Maybe he was talking about Jim Garrett (Jason's Dad).

I think Garrett helped get Will McClay promoted and I think Garrett lets McClay and the scouting dept do their jobs.

The only draft picks I specifically remember that Garrett wanted were:
MartyB
Floyd the DT in the draft where they traded down and took Fredrick.

The credit for Dak goes to Wade Wilson.

Garrett over-ruled Bill Callahan on the starting RT. Callahan was the best position coach they've have had this decade and an expert on the OLine but Garrett thought he knew more about the OL than Callahan. Due to injury, the backup eventually played and was better than the starter just like Callahan had said 2 years earlier.

I tend to think Garrett was involved in the backup QBs they obtained in 2015 when Romo was out. Those QBs were big failures.

Garrett did convince Beasley to re-consider quitting during his rookie year. Most HCs would have just let him quit.

Wade Phillips contribution to the draft was LB Jason Williams who couldn't play a lick in the NFL.

Chan Gailey's contribution was convincing Jerry NOT to draft Randy Moss.

Interesting observations.

Broaddus was speaking of Jason, not his dad. You can find the video. It's recent.

I really just do not know how that all works itself out in the FO.

Somehow the current team has to be credited to someone's overall view.

I think it is by committee more than anything where Jerrah is the chairman of the board and the rest act like corporate officers.

They must be constantly taking votes on stuff.

Becuz Jerrah has his family so involved it has to be very different than any other team.

 

[JW82]

Still bad at his job. If he is so good evaluating talent move him to the FO. He is wasting the talent he “evaluated”.

Exactly. Become a scout.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

 

[ClappingCarrot]

Most of the talent Garrett has "brought" to the organization has been from first round picks from big schools. Big whoop.

Parcells, Gil/Tom, and Jimmy were far better talent evaluators in my opinion. They found talent from small schools like Emporia State (Leon Lett) and Sonoma State (Larry Allen), found and developed an UDFA franchise QB (Romo), and even found talent from other sports (Bob Hayes). It's really no contest.

 

[cowboyblue22]

gil brandt is the greatest talent evaluator the cowboys have ever had and landry and Johnson are the two best coaches they have the hardware to prove it

 

[dckid]

1. Every one of us have a guy in the back of our mind we prefer over Garrett.But I heard something today from Broadus on the Draft Show where he said.."
2. "Garrett was the best talent evaluator this team has ever had"
3. ."I had to stop at that comment and think about it.I had not considered that part of his job.I just considered Will Clay to be the main brain there.But if that is true..then you have to give him more credit than he has received for the job of building the team the last 3 years.
4. It has improved a lot and normally I do not think of Garrett in the War Room as being a player.
   
   But I guess I am wrong there. Broadus should know.He has been around a bit. Hmmm..

Comments ftom the peanut gallery?

It starts and ends with Jimmy Johnson the man who brought me such joy from 1989-1993. That man turned the league on its head. That bravado, swagger, ability to close. Success can be so fleeting.
Giving Jerry the benefit of the doubt here, I guess JG has to be good at something.

 

[jazzcat22]

That would be Jimmie Johnson

Hard to go wrong when you have 5 times the picks as any other coach ever had.
Landry - Brandt - Schramm were the best.

 

[jazzcat22]

1. Every one of us have a guy in the back of our mind we prefer over Garrett.But I heard something today from Broadus on the Draft Show where he said.."
2. "Garrett was the best talent evaluator this team has ever had"
3. ."I had to stop at that comment and think about it.I had not considered that part of his job.I just considered Will Clay to be the main brain there.But if that is true..then you have to give him more credit than he has received for the job of building the team the last 3 years.
4. It has improved a lot and normally I do not think of Garrett in the War Room as being a player.
   
   But I guess I am wrong there. Broadus should know.He has been around a bit. Hmmm..

Comments ftom the peanut gallery?

Broaddus was not a good scout, so it seems, so how would he know if Garrett is really all that good.

 

[blueblood70]

no one person is responsible for picking players or any other decsions for that matter.. The Jonses may have the final word but recent history going back 5 years even the Jonses have let the TEAM Democracy concept take effect and its working.. the old saying it takes village is in play with huge corporations here and I believe there are huge backroom debates on who we keep, take, cut and what not.. SO JG should get equal credit in the team building but its not him alone, I credit Jerry and Stephen for taking a step back and letting the high paid employees suggestions have much more validity then it used to.

Jerry may have top big an ego to let go of the titles he holds but IMO he no longer has been the true GM here the last 5 years and to his credit hes let his people do their job and for the most part has went with most of the suggestions..

 

[ShiningStar]

this is "it ll be a good idea" to say something.

Does Garrett do some things well, sure, but better as a scout or an assistant coach. im sure he would be the talk of the town if he was not the head coach, and this doesnt help his crusade. All the talent thats been on some teams and you still cant do it? come on. and this is a worse year for Dallas because for years two teams kept bad coaches until one bad team said you know what, we cann fire our guy. The Cowboys said "no way, we like our red headed goofy boy"

we are average and it fits our team nicely. jj and sj are loving the dollars, the rest is just there.

 

[conner01]

I don’t have a clue how good a talent evaluator he is
Our drafts are better
What part of that is mcclay?
I would assume most since the HC doesn’t really go out and watch these kids. They may have input on this guy over that guy
Parcels was a good coach but over rated talent guy, ask spears and carpenter
I suspect more of our improvements in drafting actually come from Jerry listening than anything else
Jerry has gotten away from being the biggest influence and more listening to the staff