Dallas should explore Dak trade value

[G2]

It’s obvious that you need the help. You were asked a question and weren’t mature enough to handle it.

It was a stupid question. I'd rather not lower the bar.

 

[LatinMind]

After Stephan comments about Dak needing to sign team friendly deal and Dak on record as saying there will be no discount...an impasse is coming. Rather than get into issue of is Dak good or not, what could Cowboy get in trade if long term deal can't be agreed upon.


Note:
Denver received TWO 1st & 3rd for Jay Cutler
Cincy received 1st & 2nd for Carson Palmer
Eagles received 1st & 4th round pick for Sam Bradford.

If your Stephan, what would you need back in trade?

Note: this is not to get into large debate about if Dallas should or shouldn't do this but merely an exercise in what you think his current trade value is.

I think what he means is a contract closer to derek carr rather then aaron rodgers. Dak should know that this team is going to restructure and give him more money atleast 2 more times after this cointract. They did this with Romo aswell. Just trade the whole team and get 15 1st round picks and 30 2nds is fans aspect.

 

[Stash]

It was a stupid question. I'd rather not lower the bar.

Like I said, you can’t handle it.

 

[DRella]

Anyone that is willing to trade Dak really isn't a fan of the team. The guy has done nothing wrong to be traded, is a natural leader, and has enough weapons in front of him along with his skill set to make the Dallas Cowboys successful long term.

Anyone thinking he is in the Bortles or Tannehill tier of starters are really out to lunch. I would put Prescott at par with QBs like Dalton, Mayfield, Winston, Tubinsky, Watson, Cousins, Wentz and Smith. All good QBs that have won nothing in this league, but have a skill set to lead a team to a championship with the right pieces around them.

There are only so many Brady's, Rothlesberger's, Rodger's, Luck's and Bree's in the NFL that actually are Tier 1 QBs. All the others have their own skill sets and will need others to help lead a team to a championship on offense.

People need to layoff Dak, I have seen nothing but progress in the guy. He himself hasn't lost games for the Cowboys. Bad play callings, team defense and other intangibles (Zeke suspension, NO WR1, and NO TE) caused issues.

He is the long term leader of this team and solution to ending our championship drought. We must believe in the process and plan.

 

[G2]

Like I said, you can’t handle it.

An internet turd? Yeah, I'm so overwhelmed!

 

[Doomsday101]

I would not look to trade Dak however I do think every player at the right price is tradeable. See Hershel Walker. To me it is not a matter of what he is worth to another team but what is he worth to this team, if someone want him then I would not even think about it without no less than 2 #1's

 

[Hawkeye0202]

That's true, but that's not the only question. Do the Saints get that far without Drew Brees? Do the Chiefs get there with Alex Smith? Yeah you need a really good team to get to or win the Super Bowl. But how good that team needs to be has some to do with the QB.

No question, it's why no coach or owners will tell you at the start of the season their goal is Super Bowl coz so many things have to fall in place to get there and even more so to win it. They will admit the goal of winning their division and/or making the playoffs and hope the chips line up for a Super Bowl. Think about it, as good as Drew Brees or let say, Dan Marino is/was only one Super Bowl win between the two. Marino threw for over 50,000 yards but only made one appearance coz lack of talent around him.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Anyone that is willing to trade Dak really isn't a fan of the team. The guy has done nothing wrong to be traded, is a natural leader, and has enough weapons in front of him along with his skill set to make the Dallas Cowboys successful long term.

Anyone thinking he is in the Bortles or Tannehill tier of starters are really out to lunch. I would put Prescott at par with QBs like Dalton, Mayfield, Winston, Tubinsky, Watson, Cousins, Wentz and Smith. All good QBs that have won nothing in this league, but have a skill set to lead a team to a championship with the right pieces around them.

There are only so many Brady's, Rothlesberger's, Rodger's, Luck's and Bree's in the NFL that actually are Tier 1 QBs. All the others have their own skill sets and will need others to help lead a team to a championship on offense.

People need to layoff Dak, I have seen nothing but progress in the guy. He himself hasn't lost games for the Cowboys. Bad play callings, team defense and other intangibles (Zeke suspension, NO WR1, and NO TE) caused issues.

He is the long term leader of this team and solution to ending our championship drought. We must believe in the process and plan.

Ok Jerry we await the "Process" ........lol....hey Jerry 24 years and we're still waiting....and waiting and waiting.....

P.S. Dak is a Tim Tebow type of QB lots of heart with very little talent.

 

[McKDaddy]

The only people that would suggest trading Dak at this point in his career are those that just don’t think Dak is special. It’s disrespectful imo.

I’m from Mississippi and I was ecstatic that Dallas drafted Dak, exp late in the 4th round. I knew he would be great value at that spot. Although, I assumed he would sit behind Romo for a couple of years and be atleast a serviceable backup, as I really didn’t know how he would fair at the NFL level. That said, Dak was thrown to the wolves his rookie season and surprised even the most pessimistic fan. I must admit, I have had doubts myself..And yes, he has his warts as a young player..but at his age, he’s done as much as any other young QB to prove himself in this league.

Folks can spout off statistics all they want. All I know.. is two out of the three years he’s been our starter he’s brought our Boys to the playoffs. The fact that some are still advocating we trade him for unknown draft picks is just plain disrespectful. The kid is young, mature, a gamer, and most of all.. a winner. I’m done.

.. maybe I’m not done. I find it hilarious. I would place a wager that some on this site would prob trade for Carson Wentz and never say the derogatory things ab him as they have ab Dak. Even though, Wentz hasn’t accomplished what Dak has. As a matter of fact, it took journeyman Foles to give Philly their first title. Smh.

I'm also from MS, so hello neighbor.

The problem is, no matter what the team's record has been, it's pretty clear after three years that he is limited in his overall abilities as a QB. The odds of winning a SB with a QB outside the top 10 is about .0000001. So, yes you can roll with Dak & try to surround him with enough talent to win & you may win quite a few games & make the playoffs but most likely not a SB. More likely outcome is you look back after a decade & say well crap he just wasn't good enough and we have wasted a lot of great players careers. There is no way i would extend him now. If he can show significant improvement this year, we reevaluate. If he doesn't, 4 years is plenty of time to conclude you should move on without tying yourself to him financially.

As for Wentz or Mayfield or Darnold or Mahomes, Tua, etc., I have seen them make throws that give me reason to believe they could become SB caliber QB's. Unfortunately Dak has thrown very few balls in his entire NFL career that should be considered high level NFL quarterbacking. Not hating, just evaluating.

Anyway, its just us talking it sounds as if the brass is going to commit now. Time will tell who is right.

 

[Wood]

For Mahomes straight up....

here I am thinking two 1st would be sufficient

 

[CF74]

here I am thinking two 1st would be sufficient

KC would laugh us to scorn, much like this thread...

 

[Toruk_Makto]

That's completely false. Stop with this Dak walked the best QB situation in league history. That team Dak went to was 4-12 the previous year and Mahomes had a bunch better offense than Dak has had. Not saying Dak is better but Mahomes walked into a top offense, Dak walked into a 4-12 team.


Before you try and run around the bushes i know Mahomes wasnt a rookie but a guy that sat his first season before giving the team also is in a better situation.

You're wrong.and lol at thinking the team had 4 win talent.

 

[Stash]

An internet turd? Yeah, I'm so overwhelmed!

That's it, show your immaturity with more name-calling, when you can't have a grown up conversation.

Embarrass yourself even more.

 

[Stash]

I would not look to trade Dak however I do think every player at the right price is tradeable. See Hershel Walker. To me it is not a matter of what he is worth to another team but what is he worth to this team, if someone want him then I would not even think about it without no less than 2 #1's

"Everybody's got a price!"

 

[Doomsday101]

"Everybody's got a price!"

Yep. Now if my intent was just get rid of a guy I would be more willing to get what I can. if my intent is I like this guy and feel he can help this team then my price is based on what he means to me not what he means to someone else. So price goes up a lot.

 

[JJHLH1]

Dak’s trade value will be higher after he leads us to a Super Bowl title this year.

 

[Flamma]

No question, it's why no coach or owners will tell you at the start of the season their goal is Super Bowl coz so many things have to fall in place to get there and even more so to win it. They will admit the goal of winning their division and/or making the playoffs and hope the chips line up for a Super Bowl. Think about it, as good as Drew Brees or let say, Dan Marino is/was only one Super Bowl win between the two. Marino threw for over 50,000 yards but only made one appearance coz lack of talent around him.

Agreed. Same with Aaron Rodgers. One win and that came when they had a top 5 defense. Two for Eli against a superior QB. But other things factor in too. Take the season of '84 when the Dolphins go 14-2. Marino had the team around him. How often is there a better team there to knock you off from that season? Take 2007. Romo had a SB caliber team. But how often do we see a team not only like the Patriots, but one that could beat them? That 2007 Cowboys team was good enough to win the SB in a lot of other years. But the chips fell otherwise.

 

[Stash]

Yep. Now if my intent was just get rid of a guy I would be more willing to get what I can. if my intent is I like this guy and feel he can help this team then my price is based on what he means to me not what he means to someone else. So price goes up a lot.

I agree. It would take an awful lot to venture back into the complete unknown of needing to find another quarterback. Even the guys with obvious warts are making big bucks.

Add to that who this team would have preferred to draft in 2016?

I have no desire to go back there either.

 

[InTheZone]

Passing game takes a step back? Do you ever look at the stats or just say random stuff with no substance. Dak has scored 22 passing TDs in every season. Had he went 25 then 21 then 15 i would understand but he is hitting his average and improving. He started the season out with what to throw too and once he got a legit receiver what happened. Stop it with this nonsense

A step back because certain things are constant, while others things are getting worse.

Do you even watch the games or just the select parts of the stat sheet? I'm not even understanding why you would ask such a question like I'm presenting an argument without any reason.

He got a "legit" receiver and had a few breakout games and a few duds, same thing Carr did in Oakland.

TDs remain the same when they should go up, pocket awareness has seemingly declined, fumbles remain high, sacks have skyrocketed into "wth are you doing" territory. Reading coverages definitely isn't better as it seems the same man coverage single high safety gives Dak tons of issues. When Dak doesn't have the sideline (or any pass outside the hash marks) to throw to we see the struggles. I see the same constant blame for the OL, but the stats and eyeball tell me otherwise.

I'm not trying to convince you, just making you aware of why I have such an opinion of a certain player that get every W attached to his name. It isn't. All I'm hearing for counterarguments is Wins and Probowls, completely dismissing and insulting the great players he has supporting him.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Looking at the QB's after Aikman left.......I'm elated to have Dak at this point.