Who is a good rb cowboys can snag in 3-4th rnd to spell zeke?

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cowboyec said:
Damien Harris,Alabama
Bryce Love,Stanford
Trayveon Williams,A&M
Darrell Henderson,Memphis
Justice Hill,Ok St
Mike Sanders,Penn St
Elijah Holyfield,Georgia
Mike Weber,Ohio St
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David Montgomery is a sneaky pick for us around that range. Good character, productive.

We showed interest in every one of the above except for Love, Hill and Holyfield.
 
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I like Montgomery...good player.
I like the kid from Temple also.
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I like Armstead as well, but he is not the kind of back I think could eventually start for long periods of time.

But a nice player. Former LBer and can really play on ST. He is more of a 3rd back you have around to be a glue player.
 
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Don't take a TB before the 4th round.
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So what if a back represents the best value? You want to force a need pick at another position for a lesser talent?

There is a conceivable chance no backs go in the first, only a few in the second and the third could get you a strong starting caliber running back.

I would take that over some dice roll at another position you just happen to "need" more. Especially if the player can catch the football and play on teams well.

The reason why people think that you can find a good back anywhere is that most teams undervalue them to begin with and many teams are too gun shy to spend on one in a passing league.

It is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

And if you are a "running team", which I believe we are, you need two backs, not just one. Getting by with mediocre talent like we got away with last with Rod Smith is not always going to happen.

We are one Elliott injury away from a completely impotent offense.
 
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Alexander said:
I like Armstead as well, but he is not the kind of back I think could eventually start for long periods of time.

But a nice player. Former LBer and can really play on ST. He is more of a 3rd back you have around to be a glue player.
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what are your thoughts on the K-St kid...Alex Barnes...thought he played well in the games I saw.
 

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Alexander said:
So what if a back represents the best value? You want to force a need pick at another position for a lesser talent?

There is a conceivable chance no backs go in the first, only a few in the second and the third could get you a strong starting caliber running back.

I would take that over some dice roll at another position you just happen to "need" more. Especially if the player can catch the football and play on teams well.

The reason why people think that you can find a good back anywhere is that most teams undervalue them to begin with and many teams are too gun shy to spend on one in a passing league.

It is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

And if you are a "running team", which I believe we are, you need two backs, not just one. Getting bye with mediocre talent like we got away with last with Smith is not always going to happen.

We are one Elliott injury away from a completely impotent offense.
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Well for starters, as you progress in the draft, I think this idea of the "board" being barren doesn't really hold up. So, for example, in the 3rd round, even if the RB is high on their board I suspect there will be players at other positions of need that will be similarly rated.

Second, a 2nd or 3rd round pick are still valuable picks that can result in starting type players. There is little value in taking a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round and then having him sit on the bench for 80% of the offensive snaps.

They should be able to find a TB either in FA or later in the draft that can be a competent backup.
 
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Well for starters, as you progress in the draft, I think this idea of the "board" being barren doesn't really hold up. So, for example, in the 3rd round, even if the RB is high on their board I suspect there will be players at other positions of need that will be similarly rated.
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Then you are once more looking at "need" versus talent.

If my choice is the second or third best back or the sixth through tenth best at another position, I take the back each any every time. Especially when I don't have a quality reserve to begin with.

Expecting a pick up in "later in the draft" or especially in free agency should never quantify jumping the talent aspect.

Whether you like it or not, a back is a need for this team if they want to continue to make the run game as focal of a piece of the offense as they have.
 
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We sure need one that they aren't afraid to put in to give Zeke a break. At the end of last year he was pretty beat up and I think it hurt us.
 
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We sure need one that they aren't afraid to put in to give Zeke a break. At the end of last year he was pretty beat up and I think it hurt us.
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That and the fact we are screwed if he ever got hurt for any stretch of time.
 

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Then you are once more looking at "need" versus talent.

If my choice is the second or third best back or the sixth through tenth best at another position, I take the back each any every time. Especially when I don't have a quality reserve to begin with.

Expecting a pick up in "later in the draft" or especially in free agency should never quantify jumping the talent aspect.

Whether you like it or not, a back is a need for this team if they want to continue to make the run game as focal of a piece of the offense as they have.
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This gets floated all the time but never makes sense because it's an apples to oranges comparison.

What if the 3rd ranked TB isn't as good a player as the 6th or 7th ranked S or DT or OT? For example, use Draft Wire's rankings as an example. They have 7 DTs rated before their first TB. But should we take the RB because hey, he's #1 at his position and Simmons is rated 5th at DT? That makes no sense.

No one said a backup TB isn't something we need. But there's no value in using a 2nd round pick, for example, on a TB to sit the bench. That's just bad roster management.
 
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This gets floated all the time but never makes sense because it's an apples to oranges comparison.

What if the 3rd ranked TB isn't as good a player as the 6th or 7th ranked S or DT or OT? For example, use Draft Wire's rankings as an example. They have 7 DTs rated before their first TB. But should we take the RB because hey, he's #1 at his position and Simmons is rated 5th at DT? That makes no sense.

No one said a backup TB isn't something we need. But there's no value in using a 2nd round pick, for example, on a TB to sit the bench. That's just bad roster management.
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i want a safety with our first selection. but theres no denying the value a good rb in the 3-4th range would provide our running mentality team
 
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Gimme Rodney Anderson or Trayveon Williams. But I think they will wait until very late maybe udfa. There a lot of guys that are so close in talent this year .
 
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