Dak Prescott QB rating under pressure

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mmohican29 said:
Well if you're worried your QB isn't on this list because he's white: you shouldn't be.

If you're concerned your QB isn't on this list because he's Carson Wentz:

I 100% agree it's a legitimate concern because he's not very good.
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Godwin’s Law at its finest. Nobody on the Eagles forum talks about Dak Prescott because he’s just not worth our time.
 
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JBS said:
Hahahaha..you throwing Wilson into this bunch shows how much of an idiot you are
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You not detecting the clear sarcasm shows how much of an idiot you are.

Russell Wilson is one of the best in the league. Matt Ryan is a former MVP winner.

Deshaun Watson one of the best young QB’s in the league.

So again, not picking up on the sarcasm is incredibly idiotic on your part.
 
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Aerolithe_Lion said:
I have no doubt Dak is proud of his heritage, despite what you’re trying to convey here. It’s okay to be proud of being black.
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1 in 8 people in the U.S. are black
1 in 20 in my current local town of residence are black,,,this information was emblazoned across my T.V.'s 40" screen about 1 hour ago,,, er,,,apparently, somebody's wanting to illustrate somethingo_O



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With my basic footballing eyes, he looks like he lost faith in the line and stopped trusting the space he had. He often moves outside or into trouble when he doesn't need to.
 
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Obviously they arent talking about the pressure of converting a 3rd down and 7+.
1-10 in that first half of converting 3rd downs and people still think he had a respectable game against the Rams.
 
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Yobwocs said:
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If he's #2 in the league in playmaking under pressure AND he's the most clutch QB in the league, the only area where he doesn't dazzle is throwing from the pocket. But he's a pretty good pocket QB, just not a 117.2 rating one, but that'll improve with improved play from his O-line.
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Meh, Dak isn't perfect. He has a weakness or two and a strength or two. Don't they all. When there is a QB with 100% accuracy throwing and a WR with 100% accuracy catching I'll know that artificial intelligence has been accomplished. Of course by then there will be a CB who is 100% successful at intercepting and a DE who is 100% successful getting to the QB so in theory the perfect game will be 0-0 or 100-100. Oh, you know what I mean, everything and everyone will be created equal :grin:
 
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DFWJC said:
I like Dak and always have.

Youre blind if you dont undetstand how arbritrary PFF stats are.
They have all sorts of made up stuff.
Everyone knows this.
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These aren't PFF's infamous player grades. Here they're just taking all pass attempts, then dividing them into "pressured" and "kept clean" to see what the passer rating was. There is some subjectivity involved in what constitutes a pressure, but if you add up all the numbers, they still equal his season totals.

2018 regular season
kept clean 101.0 (17th)
under pressure 87.1 (2nd)
combined (all attempts) 96.9 (13th)

The combined rating is closer to the "kept clean" rating because there were twice as many attempts when kept clean.

But if you think his "pressured" ranking is too high, keep in mind that this would make his "kept clean" ranking too low, since any attempt that PFF my have erroneously put into the "pressured" category would have to go into the "kept clean" category. There's nowhere else to put it. Any attempt that distorts one side favorably, automatically distorts the other side in the opposite direction.
 
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percyhoward said:
These aren't PFF's infamous player grades. Here they're just taking all pass attempts, then dividing them into "pressured" and "kept clean" to see what the passer rating was. There is some subjectivity involved in what constitutes a pressure, but if you add up all the numbers, they still equal his season totals.

2018 regular season
kept clean 101.0 (17th)
under pressure 87.1 (2nd)
combined (all attempts) 96.9 (13th)

The combined rating is closer to the "kept clean" rating because there were twice as many attempts when kept clean.

But if you think his "pressured" ranking is too high, keep in mind that this would make his "kept clean" ranking too low, since any attempt that PFF my have erroneously put into the "pressured" category would have to go into the "kept clean" category. There's nowhere else to put it. Any attempt that distorts one side favorably, automatically distorts the other side in the opposite direction.
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I hear you Percy.
I certainly don't completely discount this stuff.
But I do think the determination of "pressured" , "tight windows" , etc are subjective with PFF.

Then again, I'm not in the camp that fully ignores this data
 
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DFWJC said:
I hear you Percy.
I certainly don't completely discount this stuff.
But I do think the determination of "pressured" , "tight windows" , etc are subjective with PFF.
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PFF may be completely wrong with respect to which attempts were "pressured" or not. My point was that there's a finite number of attempts, so if the "pressured" rating goes down, the "clean pocket" rating has to go up. Passer rating doesn't depend on whether PFF counts too many attempts as "pressured" or not enough.

Before Cooper trade
kept clean: 91.4 (26th)
under pressure 79.1 (10th)

After Cooper trade (includes playoffs)
kept clean 106.9 (10th)
under pressure 86.1 (5th)

This is interesting, because it shows that Cooper's effect on the "normal" (non-pressured) plays was much greater than on the pressured ones. Before Cooper, Dak's overall passer rating of 87.4 ranked 22nd -- however you divide it up. After Cooper's arrival, Dak's overall passer rating of 101.0 ranked 8th.
 
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percyhoward said:
PFF may be completely wrong with respect to which attempts were "pressured" or not. My point was that there's a finite number of attempts, so if the "pressured" rating goes down, the "clean pocket" rating has to go up. Passer rating doesn't depend on whether PFF counts too many attempts as "pressured" or not enough.

Before Cooper trade
kept clean: 91.4 (26th)
under pressure 79.1 (10th)

After Cooper trade (includes playoffs)
kept clean 106.9 (10th)
under pressure 86.1 (5th)

This is interesting, because it shows that Cooper's effect on the "normal" (non-pressured) plays was much greater than on the pressured ones. Before Cooper, Dak's overall passer rating of 87.4 ranked 22nd -- however you divide it up. After Cooper's arrival, Dak's overall passer rating of 101.0 ranked 8th.
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If he's #2 in the league in playmaking under pressure AND he's the most clutch QB in the league, the only area where he doesn't dazzle is throwing from the pocket. But he's a pretty good pocket QB, just not a 117.2 rating one, but that'll improve with improved play from his O-line.
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HMMM, from what I read on here is he sux and should be cut.
 
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