Jerry Jones on the Rich Eisen Show: "We're Sold On Dak"

[gjkoeppen]

No, he's lower than the middle - he's about exactly where he is ranked in nearly every other category - he's around or outside the the top 20. Not sure why I need to repeat this, but he's right there with Eli Manning and Derek Carr. If you want an even more apt comparison, he's a more durable Mariota.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...xperience=&tabSeq=0&qualified=false&Submit=Go

That shows Prescott at #15. Gee instead of using sites other than the one that the players and teams play in why not try the one that is from the league they play in.
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[mattjames2010]

This from the guy that posted that goofy picture earlier, right? Is self awareness yet something else you’re not good at?

I don’t need to read about eras. I followed that up by TKO’ing you with the straight up comparison where he outperforms both of his contemporaries drafted 1 and 2.

But now you want to run back and try the era excuse again.

Pathetic.

Yes, except I've been posting actual data and more comparisons for you between eras. Then I mock you.

You have, specifically said, you're not backing up or "adjusting" anything. Admitting you're essentially just trolling at this point. Why is it so hard for you to simply say "Comparing raw QB stats from 2002 to 2016-2018 was dumb"? It's not even like this is a mysterious thing, we all know the league has moved towards making throwing the ball easier for QBs and watering down defenses.

 

[Corso]

I just told you about adjusting - I feel like some of you have a mental block. The "where ranked" was simply a raw ranking, again, when adjusting by attempts to TDs - he drops and QBs below him rise. Take for example, Winston who had 19 TD passes on only 378 attempts - if he had 500+ attempts - he would have to go a whole heck of a lot of throws without a TD pass to not catch Prescott. Same goes for Darnold and Dalton. Even Tannehill had 17 TD passes on less than 300 attempts. Dak, with 500+, didn't even have more than 22 TD passes. It's not exactly like Zeke was eating up the TDs like Smith was for Aikman. One of the biggest problems with Dak, as a passer, is that he's not great throwing in the red zone.

Too late!

 

[mattjames2010]

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...xperience=&tabSeq=0&qualified=false&Submit=Go

That shows Prescott at #15. Gee instead of using sites other than the one that the players and teams play in why not try the one that is from the league they play in.
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They have Prescott at 15 in total yards LOL

 

[mattjames2010]

He somehow produced more touchdowns than the great Aaron Rodgers did last year. You remember him right? Leagues best passer, highest paid quarterback, etc.

Yeah, somehow Dak had more TD’s scored. Go figure!

When Dak Prescott is playing at a high level with a bad knee, we can start comparing him to elite QBs.

 

[Stash]

Yes, except I've been posting actual data and more comparisons for you between eras.

Where was that? You've done nothing but dance from one losing argument to another. Failure at every turn.

Then I mock you.

You do that, we mock what we do not understand, which for you is clearly everything. The rest of the forum is using you for a pinata.

You have, specifically said, you're not backing up or "adjusting" anything. Admitting you're essentially just trolling at this point. Why is it so hard for you to simply say "Comparing raw QB stats from 2002 to 2016-2018 was dumb"? It's not even like this is a mysterious thing, we all know the league has moved towards making throwing the ball easier for QBs and watering down defenses.

Because it wasn't "dumb" and never was. It was simply a comparison that someone trying to demean Prescott at every turn doesn't like. Inconvenient truth and facts that you can't deal with so you try (and fail) to attack their validity. And then when you're again clobbered by favorable comparisons to his drafted peers in his "era", you again try (and again fail) and
come up with some truly pathetic attempts to disregard them as well.

You've been an embarrassment in this entire thread, if that's what you were going for? Congratulations! Mission accomplished!

 

[Stash]

When Dak Prescott is playing at a high level with a bad knee, we can start comparing him to elite QBs.

Is that the latest excuse now?

You're truly pathetic.

Terrible at this.

Outclassed.

 

[mattjames2010]

Where was that? You've done nothing but dance from one losing argument to another. Failure at every turn.



You do that, we mock what we do not understand, which for you is clearly everything. The rest of the forum is using you for a pinata.




Because it wasn't "dumb" and never was. It was simply a comparison that someone trying to demean Prescott at every turn doesn't like. Inconvenient truth and facts that you can't deal with so you try (and fail) to attack their validity. And then when you're again clobbered by favorable comparisons to his drafted peers in his "era", you again try (and again fail) and
come up with some truly pathetic attempts to disregard them as well.

You've been an embarrassment in this entire thread, if that's what you were going for? Congratulations! Mission accomplished!

Calling something a "losing argument" does not make it so - I've compared numbers, multiple times - stop playing obtuse. Again, I know you're not dumb, you're pretending to be because I'm guessing your pride got bruised. But moving on.

I have already pointed out why the comparison with Brady is poor - again, no need to play obtuse. You're attempting to go in circles now, and you're big mad and it's showing. Because I am nice, like I do with everyone else, I'll give you one last chance to provide data that supports your original claim. Do your best.

 

[mattjames2010]

Is that the latest excuse now?

You're truly pathetic.

Terrible at this.

Outclassed.

Corso tried this last night and it didn't end well for him.

It is well known that Rodgers was dealing with a knee issue all last season and happened in the first game and he had a setback on the same knee in October, he also injured his groin. We can talk about how injuries could potentially impact Rodgers game more in the future, but it's a "fact" - Rodgers was not healthy at all last year and finally got his knee fixed in February.

 

[Stash]

Calling something a "losing argument" does not make it so - I've compared numbers, multiple times - stop playing obtuse. Again, I know you're not dumb, you're pretending to be because I'm guessing your pride got bruised. But moving on.

I have already pointed out why the comparison with Brady is poor - again, no need to play obtuse. You're attempting to go in circles now, and you're big mad and it's showing. Because I am nice, like I do with everyone else, I'll give you one last chance to provide data that supports your original claim. Do your best.

I've done all I need to do. And I've wasted far too much time already on someone without a leg to stand on. Go lose more arguments to someone else. You already have with everyone you've interacted with in this thread, but you're apparently not smart enough to realize that.

I have absolutely nothing left to prove. I've made my case. Game-set-match. Deal with it.

 

[Diehardblues]

LOL "MUH RAW DATA"

Again, you look like a fool using this to compare Dak to Brady. You're not stupid, you're playing stupid now because someone challenged you on this. There is a very good reason you're not looking for adjusted stats - this is available, there are sites for this. Why not go to them?

Using three years of team regular season wins to compare Dak to Brady is an obvious attempt to spin one fact to support a narrative, opinion and agenda. One comparison they failed to mention was playoff wins and Super Bowl appearances in same time frame. But those facts wouldn’t have supported their argument.

Surely they aren’t arguing Dakster is the HOF caliber QB Tom is? If so, it’s really not worth responding to as they must be infatuated like a childhood crush which we have a good segment of fans who fell head over heels for Dak in his sensational Rookie season.

 

[Stash]

Corso tried this last night and it didn't end well for him.

It is well known that Rodgers was dealing with a knee issue all last season and happened in the first game and he had a setback on the same knee in October, he also injured his groin. We can talk about how injuries could potentially impact Rodgers game more in the future, but it's a "fact" - Rodgers was not healthy at all last year and finally got his knee fixed in February.

You have an absolutely warped sense of reality, bordering on delusional. Go get checked.

The only person things "didn't end well" for here, is you.

 

[Stash]

Using three years of team regular season wins to compare Dak to Brady is an obvious attempt to spin one fact to support a narrative, opinion and agenda. One comparison they failed to mention was playoff wins and Super Bowl appearances in same time frame. But those facts wouldn’t have supported their argument.

Surely they aren’t arguing Dakster is the HOF caliber QB is? If so, it’s really not worth responding to as they must be infatuated like a childhood crush which we have a good segment of fans who fell head over heels for Dak in his amazing Rookie season.

Bringing nothing of substance yet again? Who would have guessed?

Noise.

That's all you are, nothing but noise.

 

[Corso]

Corso tried this last night and it didn't end well for him.

It is well known that Rodgers was dealing with a knee issue all last season and happened in the first game and he had a setback on the same knee in October, he also injured his groin. We can talk about how injuries could potentially impact Rodgers game more in the future, but it's a "fact" - Rodgers was not healthy at all last year and finally got his knee fixed in February.

Ha ha ha! No... you truly do suck at this. But I like you living in your own world!

 

[erod]

Career long proven "backup".

Guess you missed that part? lol

Do you even read what you write?

That is just a mess.

 

[mattjames2010]

Using three years of team regular season wins to compare Dak to Brady is an obvious attempt to spin one fact to support a narrative, opinion and agenda. One comparison they failed to mention was playoff wins and Super Bowl appearances in same time frame. But those facts wouldn’t have supported their argument.

Surely they aren’t arguing Dakster is the HOF caliber QB Tom is? If so, it’s really not worth responding to as they must be infatuated like a childhood crush which we have a good segment of fans who fell head over heels for Dak in his sensational Rookie season.

3 rings in 4 years starting will turn into a "team accomplishment" quickly for them. For Dak, team records are allowed to not only prop up Dak, but put down every other QB.

 

[CATCH17]

The money will tell us what they really think of him.

Their words mean nothing.

 

[Diehardblues]

Bringing nothing of substance yet again? Who would have guessed?

Noise.

That's all you are, nothing but noise.

Noise you don’t like because it disputes your narrative.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Do you even read what you write?

That is just a mess.

"Well, they believed in Dak well enough to promote him to Romo's backup during training camp 2016. Moved Dak ahead of the career long proven backup, Kellen Moore, who is now our O-Coordinator."

Understand English?

 

[Diehardblues]

3 rings in 4 years starting will turn into a "team accomplishment" quickly for them. For Dak, team records are allowed to not only prop up Dak, but put down every other QB.

And they have no other comparisons between their personal abilities or accomplishments.

It’s really not worth responding to comparisons. It’s such a blatant spinning of facts. Fake News.

And when they become frustrated then they’ll began insulting or attempting to discredit the messenger.