Forget Dak, he's not the problem

[glimmerman]

I wonder what the landscape would look like without the Mad Scientist in NE. I do not like the way he presents himself or his respect for the rules but he amazes me that he is so good at what he does and no one else is even close.

Parity is for some but not me, I want greatness. I want to look at something in awe and admiration that it is superior to everything else, like I used to do with the Boys and Niners, that was such a treat for the senses to watch those two teams square off and it was the Steelers before that. Human beings aren't built to seek parity but greatness.

Don't like NE and Belichick and Brady and love them for being here now to give me greatness or we would have a lot of just good teams. I didn't like the 60's Browns or Packers, 70's Steelers, 80's Niners or this current offering of greatness but I am so glad it was and is there. Even when my team was losing to them, they were losing to greatness.

I think bellycheat and brady are dependent on each other. If you bring brady here he would be better than what we have but with JG I don’t think we win as much as many times. If you removed one of them now then they wouldn’t be as successful. I wonder if when brady goes bellycheat goes right behind him. He would be smart to go out with him.

 

[ItzKelz]

You mean like missing wide open receivers?
That's the problem with the assessment about Dak. There's the game you see, and the game you don't see. Several people have said during the LA game, Dallas had receivers basically ordering dessert and Dak didn't see them.

Having said that, Dak is our quarterback. He's likely not going anywhere.

This is is JASON GARRETT'S year. He has to prove he can take this team farther than he has.

He needs AT LEAST a NFC Championship Game appearance. Any less, and he's gone, especially since Jerry did not renew his coach.

He coaching for his career as a Cowboy coach. Let's see what he's going to do.

Every QB misses wide open receivers. That the problem with the assessment of Dak by Cowboys fans that do not watch other teams. Dak is the best QB in his class.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Uh, that's what I said.

And of course I don't blame a QB when he's blind-sided.

You tried to blame a pick on play-calling, which is silly.

I would blame the pick of Wilson on the goal line to the Pats in the Super Bowl to play calling. It was a bad play call and a play the pats were looking for.

 

[G2]

I think the team wins despite there HC. The 30 million a year is the going rate for a starting QB. I don’t agree with it either but it’s market rate. Like going to a restaurant and paying market price for the lobster. Lol.

JJ is sold in him.

I'm curious what the market will be when Mahommes renews....Good lord.

 

[G2]

Every QB misses wide open receivers. That the problem with the assessment of Dak by Cowboys fans that do not watch other teams. Dak is the best QB in his class.

It doesn't help when youtubers make silly videos that show WRs dropping balls and they blame the QB. Some fans believe everything.

 

[Roadtrip635]

I think the best thing about him is he'll keep his compass in the right direction. He's spent his life with people short selling him so he's hardened to the criticism and there will be that from the local media.

Kellen Moore is going on the main stage, front an center, and will get more talk time than any coordinator because it's the Cowboys and he's new to the job. He will struggle, what coach doesn't? The best D minds in football are scheming against him but where quite a few here don't like that, I love it! That adds a little something special to the season.

I also don't get the concern with the schedule, hell, I wanna play LA, NO, CHI, GB. MIN and NE not to mention the hard to ever figure NFC East. I don't want any easy games even against the other AFC East teams.

Moore is getting trial by fire but one thing I believe that's in his corner is that the majority of those players would rather have him than Linehan. Having a coach that you want makes a lot of difference. They believe in him but he will have to show them early on he was worthy of their faith. He has to prove it to those guys before he proves it to anyone else. And with no more than we know about him, except the opinions of others that know more than I do, I do not understand why anyone thinks he can't do it. There's no evidence to support either thinking but why not go with the positive when given the opportunity?

The issue is how much freedom does Moore really have? Will he really be able to install an offense he really wants or will he still have to work within Garrett's outdated framework?

 

[CouchCoach]

Teams win in spite of their quarterback. There have been many, many examples of this over time.

Dak isn't bad. He's just not that good. He dang sure isn't a $30 million quarterback, but Jerry loves him because he tows the line and keeps his mouth shut. Not to mention saving him some face after Quincy, Hutchinson, Henson, and his famous Weeden comments.

You saw him without Zeke in 2017. You saw him before Amari last year. Dak needs everything around him to be perfect to be successful. That's not what $30 million should buy you.

But he's going to get it because he stood by Jerry during a tough time, and there certainly aren't any other promising options.

The problem is, they're about to pay Dak, Zeke, and Amari, just after signing Lawrence, Martin, Frederick, and Smith.

Jaylon Smith will probably have to be let go soon, along with Byron Jones. It's going to be tough when Awuzie, LVE, Gallup, Woods, etc, start coming due.

Brady and Brees can cover a lot of vacancies by themselves. That's not Dak.

But that 30M is ahead of the game as that will soon be the norm and you reward QB's with 66% winning and the East 2 out of his only 3 seasons. They don't pay them to be elite, they pay them to win. And that's how they will justify 30M.

I would rather pay a good QB 30M than a great RB 15M because RB's just aren't all that in the NFL anymore. I do not see a problem with paying Dak 30M, and I am getting out in front of this because I think that is happening, as long as they do not have to let some key players on D walk like Jones or Smith. I just don't see a team with 61M to their triplets and a top 5 paid OL holding any kind of effective D together. Then, we are right back where we started, riding the offense.

 

[mattjames2010]

Every QB misses wide open receivers. That the problem with the assessment of Dak by Cowboys fans that do not watch other teams. Dak is the best QB in his class.

He had 4 wide open receivers in the Rams game and still threw the ball in the dirt. Aikman actually laughed and mocked him.

 

[CouchCoach]

The issue is how much freedom does Moore really have? Will he really be able to install an offense he really wants or will he still have to work within Garrett's outdated framework?

I don't see him bringing his own playbook in but I think he'll be able to tweak some things. And Rt, it isn't about Moore's freedom as much as Garrett's. I don't think Booger was serious about telling Moore to come to him but I do think he was sending a message to Garrett and the team, Moore is MY guy.

 

[CouchCoach]

He had 4 wide open receivers in the Rams game and still threw the ball in the dirt. Aikman actually laughed and mocked him.

In fairness, I've seen Aikman miss receivers and his deep ball was barely mediocre. They all have misses, can't cherry pick them.

 

[mattjames2010]

In fairness, I've seen Aikman miss receivers and his deep ball was barely mediocre. They all have misses, can't cherry pick them.

Nobody is "cherry picking" - it simply happens too frequently with Dak.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

And to be fair you're an Eagles fan. We'll see how long wincer stays relevant

Idk just how relevant Wentz really is right now since he's appeared in 0 playoff games.

 

[CouchCoach]

I think bellycheat and brady are dependent on each other. If you bring brady here he would be better than what we have but with JG I don’t think we win as much as many times. If you removed one of them now then they wouldn’t be as successful. I wonder if when brady goes bellycheat goes right behind him. He would be smart to go out with him.

Ya see, that's where I don't agree with the Brady dependency. Brady executes the plays that are called, he manages the game. He is more dependent on Belichick's ability to assemble a team, particularly the guys up front of him and that D.

I think he would have already traded Brady if Kraft hadn't gotten involved. That's why Brady was willing to take less money than he could demand. It was the compromise that allowed Belichick to continue to weave his magic because I think he loves playing with it and Brady to remain on the best coached team in the league.

I don't think Belichick hasn't heard the Brady connection and would like nothing better than to prove people wrong. Brady needs him more than he needs Brady and I think he's smart enough to realize that as he builds his legend.

 

[CouchCoach]

Idk just how relevant Wentz really is right now since he's appeared in 0 playoff games.

He needs to play a full season and I'd like to see the O/U on that in Vegas because the biggest surprise of the season will be him going all 16. There's already questions about him being 100% to start the season.

 

[cern]

no evaluation of dak would be complete without an asterisk*……*ran plays sent in by linehan. talk about being hamstrung. dak wins. that's what it's all about in the final analysis.

 

[CouchCoach]

Nobody is "cherry picking" - it simply happens too frequently with Dak.

I do agree, he does miss too many NFL QB101 passes and I've yet to see the common culprit with that. Some say it's foot placement or footwork and saw one that even said he thought he might be too muscular. And while that sounds a little odd in football, look at Brady, Brees and Rodgers arms compared to Dak's. Hell, they've got arms more like Dak's girlfriend. Granny Clampett had more muscular arms than Brees. So, maybe there's something to that and I suspect the grip could be an issue as well.

 

[mattjames2010]

I do agree, he does miss too many NFL QB101 passes and I've yet to see the common culprit with that. Some say it's foot placement or footwork and saw one that even said he thought he might be too muscular. And while that sounds a little odd in football, look at Brady, Brees and Rodgers arms compared to Dak's. Hell, they've got arms more like Dak's girlfriend. Granny Clampett had more muscular arms than Brees. So, maybe there's something to that and I suspect the grip could be an issue as well.

He has admitted it's his footwork. Which should have been fixed by now.

 

[glimmerman]

I'm curious what the market will be when Mahommes renews....Good lord.

If he continues upward we may see 40 a year.

 

[northerncowboynation]

Idk just how relevant Wentz really is right now since he's appeared in 0 playoff games.

he's a lunar eclipse with Foles being the shadow lol

 

[CouchCoach]

If he continues upward we may see 40 a year.

It's already jumped 5M in one year to 35M and he's not up until 2021. Hell, the price to tag a QB might be 30-32M by then.