News: DC: Kitna Says Dak Already Has 'Mindset To Be Elite'

[CouchCoach]

Coach, you are elite in my book. And always will be. Sorry, I can't pay you.

Thanks Hillbilly, appreciate the sentiment. Rather have the money but the sentiment is nice.

 

[Corso]

Dak Already Has 'Mindset To Be Elite'
First how do they define mindset? lol just exactly what is that.
Elite........well we all know this means different things to different people.
And if he already has it, and hasnt played great, what does that say?

I think maybe the jones boys wrote it out for kitna to say?
It would have been better to just say kitna thinks he can help Dak play
better than he has the last 2 years. Would not sound as fancy but it would be more believable.

Instead they are promoting dak as elite, which sets him up to look bad if he does not play elite this season.

I was thinking maybe kitna will help dak, but dak is a long way from elite.
So why even bring that up? maybe the jones boys want us to think dak is elite now,
so when they sign him to big deal, it is for elite dak, not avg dak lol.
And I am not against dak getting the big deal, after 4 years of dealing with jones boys,
and garrett, he deserves a big contract!

Is Zeke still fat?

 

[Runwildboys]

Great athleticism is regulated more by genetics than any other factor. Dak is an exceptional athlete. All he needs now is a good teacher.

Hopefully. But great athleticism doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with great instincts.

 

[zenmastersauce]

I hope Dak makes the jump but I hope for even more to have the success of the Chip than any individual perfection.

 

[CouchCoach]

Hopefully. But great athleticism doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with great instincts.

Or great passing, plenty of QB's are not great athletes.

There is little doubt that Prescott wants to get better as most of them do but the mindset, unless a player is lazy, has little to do with it.

Now, talk about an absence of mindset, that was Dez Bryant. Don't know how he was in high school but in college he was stubborn and shunned coaching and was good enough to get by with that and I never saw him get any better at routes when he went pro. He had natural athleticism and relied on that.

Mindset begins and ends with the belief in their coach. Remember Parcells and Larry Allen butting heads over how he trained? LA was the strongest man in the NFL and was all about benching and Parcells wanted him to work on his lower body for more punch. On the reverse side was Ellis who was really apprehensive about being an OLB but he followed the training and became one.

Evidently, Prescott has belief in both Kitna and Moore so I think they will get however much he's got to give. Dak hears the same things we write here and is the most discussed QB with regards to accuracy since Tebow. He's not going to be Rivers or Rodgers but that does not mean he can't be a damned fine QB, execute the plays and lead his team.

One thing that really permeates this forum is the thinking that what was shall be and what could be can't be. Too many give up on some of these players and coaches and we have no idea the effect these two coaches can have on Dak Prescott. And I get the feeling that some are pulling for him to fail and I don't get that. I didn't even want that for players I did not like.

It would do some posters good to go back to when Jaylon Smith was selected and remember his family and how they celebrated the chance that his dream was not dead. Then some dropfooted him to the curb calling him a wasted pick and all the while he kept telling us he was getting better and he was coming.

What's wrong with having a little faith that Kitna and Moore can help Dak improve and Moore become a good OC? What's the worst that can happen, they're wrong? Who cares? Rather have the faith and be wrong than be down on them and be right.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

“Dak has the mindset to be elite.......just not the actual talent.” — Kitna



Zazazaaziiiiiiiiiiing!

 

[Runwildboys]

Or great passing, plenty of QB's are not great athletes.

There is little doubt that Prescott wants to get better as most of them do but the mindset, unless a player is lazy, has little to do with it.

Now, talk about an absence of mindset, that was Dez Bryant. Don't know how he was in high school but in college he was stubborn and shunned coaching and was good enough to get by with that and I never saw him get any better at routes when he went pro. He had natural athleticism and relied on that.

Mindset begins and ends with the belief in their coach. Remember Parcells and Larry Allen butting heads over how he trained? LA was the strongest man in the NFL and was all about benching and Parcells wanted him to work on his lower body for more punch. On the reverse side was Ellis who was really apprehensive about being an OLB but he followed the training and became one.

Evidently, Prescott has belief in both Kitna and Moore so I think they will get however much he's got to give. Dak hears the same things we write here and is the most discussed QB with regards to accuracy since Tebow. He's not going to be Rivers or Rodgers but that does not mean he can't be a damned fine QB, execute the plays and lead his team.

One thing that really permeates this forum is the thinking that what was shall be and what could be can't be. Too many give up on some of these players and coaches and we have no idea the effect these two coaches can have on Dak Prescott. And I get the feeling that some are pulling for him to fail and I don't get that. I didn't even want that for players I did not like.

It would do some posters good to go back to when Jaylon Smith was selected and remember his family and how they celebrated the chance that his dream was not dead. Then some dropfooted him to the curb calling him a wasted pick and all the while he kept telling us he was getting better and he was coming.

What's wrong with having a little faith that Kitna and Moore can help Dak improve and Moore become a good OC? What's the worst that can happen, they're wrong? Who cares? Rather have the faith and be wrong than be down on them and be right.

As soon as I heard Kitna was coming to be QB coach, and read his story about how he was taught several years after coming to the NFL, it gave me a sense of hope that between his teaching techniques and Moore's new play designs, they'll make Dak the best he can be. We'll see in a few months if there's any indication that they can turn him into a very good QB...........Elite would be cool, but I'd settle for very good.

 

[CouchCoach]

As soon as I heard Kitna was coming to be QB coach, and read his story about how he was taught several years after coming to the NFL, it gave me a sense of hope that between his teaching techniques and Moore's new play designs, they'll make Dak the best he can be. We'll see in a few months if there's any indication that they can turn him into a very good QB...........Elite would be cool, but I'd settle for very good.

Considering only one of those elite QB's has won more than one ring, very good works for me too.

 

[RoboQB]

Kitna, our next OC in 2020.

Lol. I said "coach". Not "head coach".
Buy hey, ya never know... lol.
The hiring and firing is not for me to decide.

I actually think we'll have a great season. Maybe not the SB, but we'll be in the mix.

 

[Redline360]

Dak has the mindset and leadership skills to be elite however what he has shown through the last couple of years(fundamentals) is well lacking. Bad pocket presence, holds the ball to long, doesn't anticipate routes and etc

He basically doesn't trust himself to release the ball before the receivers break route. Scouting report was dead on.

However I hope the kid makes the jump this year. Some of it has to do with coaching not playing to his talents / stale offence schemes

 

[TwoDeep3]

It’s a shame that Kitna, while he was playing, apparently never such a mindset.

Or, perhaps, its the fact Kitna had the mindset but not the physical tools. I believe it is difficult for most of us to fully accept we are not gifted. So too, Kitna could think that about himself and not realise he didn't have the physical tools to be elite.

Does Dak have those tools? Asking how can I eliminate the false steps is one thing. But if you don't have the raw talent to physically do that, then where do you wend up? A former high school football coach giving interviews?

My believe, and opinion is Dak has the mentality to be very good. Maybe great, and possibly elite. But he has two problems.

One is accuracy. This is a combination of a clean pocket and a belief he can make the throw. And the clock in his head to throw it at the exact moment and with touch. Lots of things go into this.

I do not believe Dak has faith in his accuracy on the long ball. He hesitates, over-thinks, then doesn't pull the trigger. he also doesn't have the touch, it would appear.

Those facts meld into him not being very good at the deep ball and him second guessing his ability and not throwing deep enough.

And defensive coordinators realise this and press him in the packet to stop the run and force him to beat them with his arm.

This is not to say throwing deep more fixes the rush. But choosing to throw deep less has an ugly hand in not staying in front of the sticks. And too many times this team cheerfully settles for punting because they didn't turn the ball over versus taking a risk and winning on third down.

Fourteen yard quarterback draws very late in games are what legends are made of, but those are not what championships are made of. Jerry sees those types of runs and thinks he has a winner.

Teams win when the QB surgically cuts up the defense with his WR's, and the running game is working. The deep ball connection is a huge part of this.

Dak may fix this aspect. I guess we'll see.

 

[Corso]

Which means he must be at Romo's level by now. We are Superbowl bound baby!

Lol... Romo's level.
Yeah. That guy went places*.

*Football context

 

[RoboQB]

The point I think some fans miss is elite QBs are DEVELOPED. Not one QB has ever come into the league as a proven elite QB from day one. Of course many have come in with all the physical skills ( arm strength, speed ) but what about the intangible ( many fans underestimate). The ability to handle the pressure cooker of the being an NFL QB and consistently have your team competing for the season every season. Some fans QBs come into the league and automatically attain elite status and that's simply not true.

Hawk, I humbly disagree that no QB entered the league as an already elite QB.
I can only think of one, so your is very largely, mostly true. (I hope that made sense... lol)

The one QB exception to your valid point is... Dan Marino.

-He was 7-2 as a rookie. 20 tds 6 ints. Back in those days, only 6 picks was unheard-of for a rookie starter.

-His second season, he shattered the record books. 5084 yards passiing and 48 tds. (I don't even have to look those up... lol)
He finished that season losing to Montana's 49ers in the SB after posting a 14-2 record.

-His third season, he beat the '85 Bears... handing them their only defeat. Marino's Dolphins finished 12-4.

I hope you agree that Dan Marino was the exception to the rule.
Either way, thanks for jogging some memories. I was a big fan of Marino in the '80s.

It was something to see Don Shula go from the head coach who's QB once threw 6 passes in an entire game
to coaching a guy that threw for over 5000 in a season and held all the passing records when he retired.
Thanks again.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Jeff Heath has the mindset to be elite.

Not merely elite.

GOAT!
GOAT!
GOAT!

 

[erod]

Dak Hater troll alerts^^^
you should be banned for even mentioning those guys to a Starting QB who is on another level then those players..Is Dak elite , no hes top tier 2 but can he grow and maybe get there sure..those guys are who they are but ridiculous to bring them up with intentions to imply Dak is on their level..no way no how..

Sorry, but Dak isn't a better player than Crawford or Brown. He just plays a higher profile position.

 

[G2]

As soon as I heard Kitna was coming to be QB coach, and read his story about how he was taught several years after coming to the NFL, it gave me a sense of hope that between his teaching techniques and Moore's new play designs, they'll make Dak the best he can be. We'll see in a few months if there's any indication that they can turn him into a very good QB...........Elite would be cool, but I'd settle for very good.

It's too difficult to land a truly elite QB. Rare. Very good is realistic and a balanced team is the goal.

I'm intrigued to how much Moore will be allowed or able to do in regard to his exposure and experience at Boise. They had a very different scheme. A bunch of strange formations. Like the left tackle spread out wide as a WR etc...

I hope it's at least fun

 

[Runwildboys]

It's too difficult to land a truly elite QB. Rare. Very good is realistic and a balanced team is the goal.

I'm intrigued to how much Moore will be allowed or able to do in regard to his exposure and experience at Boise. They had a very different scheme. A bunch of strange formations. Like the left tackle spread out wide as a WR etc...

I hope it's at least fun

Unpredictable would be an upgrade.

 

[morat1959]

Jeff Heath has the mindset to be elite.

Tyrone Crawford has the mindset to be elite.

Anthony Brown has the mindset to be elite.

It's a good quality to have, but it doesn't make you elite.

Lol

 

[Darthkuriboh]

Teach him how to not throw from his back foot
teach him how to not throw from his back foot
teach him how to not throw from his back foot


3 things Dak needs to improve on

 

[DandyDon52]

Is Zeke still fat?

I have no idea.