NFL and NFLPA joint agreement on pain management, potentially including marijuana

[Fizziksman]

(In bold^^^) That should alarm you. The article is two years old, yet the stats undeniably show a drastic increase of marijuana-induced fatality rates from year to year (2013 - 2016) in Colorado alone. Can you imagine how much higher they are today only two years later?

couldn't this just be explained by the fact that more people are buying and driving cars after recovering from the recession of 2008?

 

[Sinister]

In California, Oklahoma and several other states, marijuana is allowed to be prescribed.

It is not prescribed it is recommended. Doctors cannot prescribe marijuana because it is a schedule 1 drug they could lose their license if the prescibe a schedule 1 drug.

 

[Sinister]

(In bold^^^) That should alarm you. The article is two years old, yet the stats undeniably show a drastic increase of marijuana-induced fatality rates from year to year (2013 - 2016) in Colorado alone. Can you imagine how much higher they are today only two years later?

Unfortunately, the graphs are incomplete there needs to be a longer term study three years is not enough time.

More indepth scientific research is necessary.

 

[Haimerej]

Unfortunately, the graphs are incomplete there needs to be a longer term study three years is not enough time.

More indepth scientific research is necessary.

I referenced one earlier-

Check this out from NHTSA's Drug and Alcohol Crash Risk: A Case-Control Study, (emphasis added)-

"Conclusions

The study confirmed previous research indicating alcohol is a greater contributor to crash risk than drugs ... When age, gender, race/ethnicity, and alcohol consumption are taken into account, there was no significant contribution of drugs to crash risk. This finding seems to contradict previous studies (Asbridge, Hayden, & Cartwright, 2012; Blows et al., 2005; Hels et al., 2011) that indicate a statistically significant contribution of drugs to crash risk, even if sometimes small or moderate. However, the strength of this study lays in its rigorous methodology, stringent data collection procedures, controlled case-control matching, comprehensive laboratory testing, and sophisticated statistical analyses...

Additionally, because drug classes affect driving skills differently, overall crash risk estimates may underestimate the contribution of certain drugs to specific types of crashes. The role of THC may differ in its crash risk profile than stimulants. The results indicate that alcohol remains the main contributor to crash risk. Drugs other than alcohol, and when combined with alcohol was not a significant factor in crash risk."

 

[America's Cowboy]

couldn't this just be explained by the fact that more people are buying and driving cars after recovering from the recession of 2008?

 

[America's Cowboy]

It is not prescribed it is recommended. Doctors cannot prescribe marijuana because it is a schedule 1 drug they could lose their license if the prescibe a schedule 1 drug.

It doesn't matter. The bottom line, people are being allowed to receive marijuana.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Unfortunately, the graphs are incomplete there needs to be a longer term study three years is not enough time.

More indepth scientific research is necessary.

Actually, one of the graphs shows a 5 year data study (2012 - 2016). I agree more in-depth research needs to be done. But it's undeniable, the rates are increasing dramatically in states where marijuana has become legalized.

 

[waldoputty]

yeah nida prevents unbiased research.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/marijuana-research/

hilarious

 

[RoboQB]

(In bold^^^) That should alarm you. The article is two years old, yet the stats undeniably show a drastic increase of marijuana-induced fatality rates from year to year (2013 - 2016) in Colorado alone. Can you imagine how much higher they are today only two years later?

What your graph doesn't show is the population increase in the state which is significant.
It's also a preferred spot for people here illegally so you can probably add 2 million to what
the current population is. Ironically, they would make it on your graph, but not on the
official population count of the state. Point is, the graph is not accurate.

 

[DandyDon52]

If they allowed it for pain, many players would show up for games stoned, is that ok with you guys??
I suspect gregory would.

 

[America's Cowboy]

What your graph doesn't show is the population increase in the state which is significant.
It's also a preferred spot for people here illegally so you can probably add 2 million to what
the current population is. Ironically, they would make it on your graph, but not on the
official population count of the state. Point is, the graph is not accurate.

It doesn't matter. What matters is the dramatic increase in marijuana-induced fatality rates from year to year.

 

[Melonfeud]

The problem with this is......even though many states have now legalized it federal laws trumps state laws. So untl it gets removed from being a schedule 1 drug it's all for naught......which is why the VA won't even consider it.......they are a federal entitiy governed by federal laws.

Ha ,ya! And it's perplexing as to why the FBI&ATF,,,ETC,,, are sitting sidelined in non-prosecution of green reefer card holders who also possess a firearm

 

[DandyDon52]

They just gave him an extension so...
SUFFER!

I wonder what they are thinking? He will eventually pass the tests?
Does he make any money while suspended? Is he living on bonus $?

 

[Sinister]

It doesn't matter. What matters is the dramatic increase in marijuana-induced fatality rates from year to year.

The problem is that you lack the scientific data to back up your facts.

There are numerous contridictory studies.

There needs to be more scientific studies before you can state that marijuana has "increased" traffic fatalities.

 

[America's Cowboy]

The problem is that you lack the scientific data to back up your facts.

There are numerous contridictory studies.

There needs to be more scientific studies before you can state that marijuana has "increased" traffic fatalities.

I could list more, but it wouldn't matter to you.

Question: Do you smoke marijuana?

 

[RoboQB]

It doesn't matter. What matters is the dramatic increase in marijuana-induced fatality rates from year to year.

No. You can't claim that while not knowing the full equation.
If your supposed increased number goes up 50-100 but the
population increase is 500,000 people, those numbers are
not accurate.

 

[Bohuntr97]

I'm sorry you are wrong, states are bound by Federal Court decisions, however; the Attorney General can decide if he wants to prosecute or not.

No problem, It's my interpretation that States have to abide by decisions of the Supreme Court and it's up to the AG weather or not to determine if there is a violation of the Constitution which gives State Rights. Federal courts are non biding which is why some States are allowing the use of MJ for medicinal purposes, Correct?

 

[Sinister]

It doesn't matter. The bottom line, people are being allowed to receive marijuana.

That is the point isn't it.

An NFL player can only get recommended marijuana, but can't get a prescription. Even if the Doctor believes it is beneficial to his health, even if the Doctor believes that marijuanas anti-inflammatory properties work.

Which is why I don't think marijuana should be tested in the NFL.

 

[America's Cowboy]

No. You can't claim that while not knowing the full equation.
If your supposed increased number goes up 50-100 but the
population increase is 500,000 people, those numbers are
not accurate.

What is not accurate about a rate increase? An increase is an increase. Adding more people to the population would obviously increase the amount of pot smokers (hence why they are moving to states like Colorado) and make driving worse and more dangerous as stats are showing.

 

[America's Cowboy]

That is the point isn't it.

An NFL player can only get recommended marijuana, but can't get a prescription. Even if the Doctor believes it is beneficial to his health, even if the Doctor believes that marijuanas anti-inflammatory properties work.

Which is why I don't think marijuana should be tested in the NFL.

I'm with you on its ability to help, but how do you regulate it among the players and keep it away from those who don't need it? It will very likely get out of control. Before you know it, an overwhelming majority of players will be showing up high to football games.