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Ahh so you just look at tackles and sacks to compare two players playing different positions for you to determine who played better.

No wonder you're so clueless :lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:

Again, who's "grade"? What "grade"? It's obvious you have someone else do your thinking for you, but then you can't even provide support.

But it doesn't matter, anybody that's giving Crawford a better "grade" than Quinn isn't worth a damn anyway.
 

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Crawford started 15 games last season, and 74 out of the last 76 games.

I'll ask you again, where is he "your starter". Don't hide behind semantics or technicalities. Have the guts to tell me where you want Tyrone Crawford "starting" for your team.

So you can stomp your feet, scream about position and cry about your incorrect perception of him all you want, but the fact remains, 'rotational' players don't start 74 games over 5 seasons.

Sure they do, when teams don't have better options. But it makes them "starters" in name only, not by design. Again, you know it, I know it. The guy I said nothing more than a rotational role player.

You seem to have an issue grasping basic facts as he hasn't been a rotational player at all.

Seriously? Then what's that "one starting spot" he's been playing that everyone buy you has missed?

The level some people go to ignore the harsh truths is staggering.
 

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He's determined to die on this hill. He made a claim before and now has to do everything in his power to protect it, ever if he doesn't believe in it himself or has absolutely no knowledge of the subject.

It's not all that characteristic of him, but it's his choice.

We can only try to hell educate him, that's about it.

But the hypocrisy of him continually moving the goal posts but then claiming others are doing it is beyond annoying and I'm embarrassed for him.

Be embarrassed for yourself, if you gain the sense.
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Ahh so you just look at tackles and sacks to compare two players playing different positions for you to determine who played better.

No wonder you're so clueless :lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:

Argue points and provide also, references for counter arguments. Second person, the use of all the you's, is strictly to insult...
 

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Be embarrassed for yourself, if you gain the sense.
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At least in our trailer park, a dog's owner has to carry a poop bag...:)

It's easier to stick to the argument, the other participant left real topic many posts ago. lol;)
 

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No, Jack Crawford was paid relative to who he is - a solid, journeyman defensive lineman. And that's who our Crawford is. Jack is, in fact, the perfect comp for Tyrone. The problem you and others have is that he clearly illustrates how the Cowboys overpay for their and you don't like it.

And others will bring up the salaries and stats of other defensive tackles in an effort to make excuses, without realizing the fact that they're actually comparing him to true starters, who have actual defined roles that play to their strengths. While we have an overpaid guy that we try to fit in somewhere because other players do the job better.

A guy whose every sack had to be manufactured by the scheme, or he would never get there on his own merits and performance. And you can look that up, I've done my homework.

And when he and that scheme were figured out by the Rams, the results were a disgrace. You can look that up too, I have.
I love how you cherry pick specific bits of information when it suits you. Like injuries. Apparently a perfectly acceptable reason for Austin to not perform, but not for the DT performance against the Rams. At least you are consistently inconsistent.
 

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I love how you cherry pick specific bits of information when it suits you. Like injuries. Apparently a perfectly acceptable reason for Austin to not perform, but not for the DT performance against the Rams. At least you are consistently inconsistent.

Do you really want to chalk up that Rams performance to "injury"?

If so, say the word. Do that.

How does missing games equate to getting your *** handed to you in that playoff game? How far are you willing to reach here?
 

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Do you really want to chalk up that Rams performance to "injury"?

If so, say the word. Do that.

How does missing games equate to getting your *** handed to you in that playoff game? How far are you willing to reach here?
Partially. A combination of lack of quality depth, poor coaching adjustments, key run-stopping DL playing injured (like Woods and Crawford), it all factored. It's only a reach in your mind because you are trying to distance yourself from the truth just to win an argument.

BTW, Jack Crawford, while the definition of a journeyman, had a career-year last year. If he can provide that every year, he will soon be paid more than the $3.4 million cap hit he was in 2018. I'd say 5-6 million is about right for a solid starting-level DT.
 

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I never understood the fuss over signing Hurns and his 20 catches didn't win me over. I definitely wouldn't have bothered keeping him after the injury. I'd rather keep a younger player with upside.
 

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Partially. A combination of lack of quality depth, poor coaching adjustments, key run-stopping DL playing injured (like Woods and Crawford), it all factored. It's only a reach in your mind because you are trying to distance yourself from the truth just to win an argument.

It's a reach because it's a reach. And you know it's. And that's why you'll include all of the real reasons with it. Because you yourself know it.

BTW, Jack Crawford, while the definition of a journeyman, had a career-year last year. If he can provide that every year, he will soon be paid more than the $3.4 million cap hit he was in 2018. I'd say 5-6 million is about right for a solid starting-level DT.

Which still makes Tyrone grossly overpaid. Thanks for admitting that.
 

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It's a reach because it's a reach. And you know it's. And that's why you'll include all of the real reasons with it. Because you yourself know it.



Which still makes Tyrone grossly overpaid. Thanks for admitting that.
No, his 2019 cap hit is too high for his 2018 level of production - I've never said otherwise. But his average over the course of his contract has been about in line. Especially considering his effectiveness in some previous seasons. I've been extremely consistent in that stance and you know it because we've had this argument before.

And it's not a reach. But it is consistent that when you no longer can make objective comments to support your position you resort to vague, subjective comments like "it's a reach" which don't really mean anything.
 

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No, his 2019 cap hit is too high for his 2018 level of production - I've never said otherwise. But his average over the course of his contract has been about in line. Especially considering his effectiveness in some previous seasons. I've been extremely consistent in that stance and you know it because we've had this argument before.

And you've been wrong about it since he signed that bloated deal, and never became the player or starter they thought he would. Face facts. He was paid to be their Warren Sap under tackle and never came close. And then he was pushed out of the 3T spot by Maliek Collins and has bounce don't around ever since it's OK to admit the obvious, even if it isn't favorable to the Cowboys.

And it's not a reach. But it is consistent that when you no longer can make objective comments to support your position you resort to vague, subjective comments like "it's a reach" which don't really mean anything.

Seriously? After the comments and excuses yiuve tried - and failed - to make here, you want to accuse anyone else of being "vague"? Go stand in front of a mirror!

It's an awful reach, and smacks of desperation. They got run over because the Rams knew all of their tells, and what they were going to do before they did it. And those same stunt shows they have to use to free up guys like Crawford yo actually make a ply were figured out and used against them. And that's why the Rams put up 270 yards rushing.

You somehow trying to tie that to Tavon Austin missing games is just sad.
 

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And you've been wrong about it since he signed that bloated deal, and never became the player or starter they thought he would. Face facts. He was paid to be their Warren Sap under tackle and never came close. And then he was pushed out of the 3T spot by Maliek Collins and has bounce don't around ever since it's OK to admit the obvious, even if it isn't favorable to the Cowboys.



Seriously? After the comments and excuses yiuve tried - and failed - to make here, you want to accuse anyone else of being "vague"? Go stand in front of a mirror!

It's an awful reach, and smacks of desperation. They got run over because the Rams knew all of their tells, and what they were going to do before they did it. And those same stunt shows they have to use to free up guys like Crawford yo actually make a ply were figured out and used against them. And that's why the Rams put up 270 yards rushing.

You somehow trying to tie that to Tavon Austin missing games is just sad.
And now the verbal diarrhea. All to avoid admitting another valid viewpoint exists.
 

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And now the verbal diarrhea. All to avoid admitting another valid viewpoint exists.

Sorry the truth hurts. Have your viewpoint. I'll continue to vehemently disagree with it and refute it. That's nit about to change.

We done here now?
 

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Sorry the truth hurts. Have your viewpoint. I'll continue to vehemently disagree with it and refute it. That's nit about to change.

We done here now?
When you provide a truth that I'm missing I'll let you know if it hurts. Yeah, we've gone round and round for the umpteenth time and gotten nowhere.
 

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When you provide a truth that I'm missing I'll let you know if it hurts. Yeah, we've gone round and round for the umpteenth time and gotten nowhere.

Well it was nice "wasting time" with you anyway. Maybe we can find something we're in agreement on to talk about sometime?
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Well it was nice "wasting time" with you anyway. Maybe we can find something we're in agreement on to talk about sometime?
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