Another sign we’re close?

[ESisback]

Because they haven't done it since the early Jimmy days.

I'm not going to spend 3 pages debating a dead horse. Later.

But he’s on the right side of history...

 

[Diehardblues]

Because they haven't done it since the early Jimmy days.

I'm not going to spend 3 pages debating a dead horse. Later.

That’s no reason not to continue trying. It’s been one of the gravest over sights for Cowboys in 21st Century not attempting to highly draft our next generational QB.

 

[Diehardblues]

Who doesn’t aspire to win? Who doesn’t want generational talent? Know how to get some? Guaranteed?

The answer is usually in the draft. And in this era we haven’t used our resources to at least attempt to acquire our next generational QB.

I’d swing for the fences until we hit the home run because if not it’s going to be much like we’ve seen thus far for the Cowboys in 21st Century.

Something Landry and Jimmy both used resources for in the 1st round. And we see team after team risk their resources on the next one. You can’t miss if your not up at the plate swinging.

Landry was always looking for the next great talent. Had Meredith and used a 1st round pick in 1965 for Morton while also drafting Staubach. And Jimmy used two 1st round picks to solidify he’d have at least one generational talent. They are the foundation of your franchise.

This Salary Cap era the NFL has become an even more QB driven league. The ones with the most Elite QB’s are usually the more consistent contenders and easier to maintain a supporting cast.

There’s never guarantees and not sure why my views are criticized unless fans simply take any criticism of their team personally. Surely everyone would agree they’d rather have a generational QB. Instead of settling on what we’ve had. That’s all I’m saying. That doesn’t have to be a bash on our current QB.

 

[Diehardblues]

But he’s on the right side of history...

I’ll never understand why fans feel the need to defend our teams status quo amongst fellow fans?

Surely we all want greater teams? We may not all agree on how to get there but I’d like to think we’re all rooting for the same result.

But if we can’t see our core issues with ownership , coaching and key areas of weaknesses or lack of strengths like at QB then we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

That’s all my circle of Cowboy fans discuss is how we can improve these weaknesses to elevate us to the next level. We aren’t sitting around defending our guys against each other’s criticism because until you reach the Pinnacle all are fair game for criticism.

That doesn’t mean we don’t cheer them on once we kick the ball off but before, even during and after spend our time critiquing the results discussing all of these issues. I really thought thats what a fan forum would be about instead of getting derailed in these personal attacks and insults attempting to discredit the messenger.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

...the fact that commentators are now saying Stephen and Will McClay, and not Jerry, are running things.

Discuss....

The only thing Stephen and Will do is to fill Jerry's ice tea......

 

[Ranched]

...the fact that commentators are now saying Stephen and Will McClay, and not Jerry, are running things.

Discuss....

The other fact is no team in the NFCE has ever won back-to-back division titles. There's no doubt in my mind the Cowboys will be the first team in the division to accomplish such a feat in 2019-2020 season. They're going to be tougher and harder to beat.

 

[Diehardblues]

The other fact is no team in the NFCE has ever won back-to-back division titles. There's no doubt in my mind the Cowboys will be the first team in the division to accomplish such a feat in 2019-2020 season. They're going to be tougher and harder to beat.

Fact check:
NFC East back to back titles

Dallas 70-71, 76-79, 92-96
Stl. 74-75
Wash. 82-84
NY. 89-90
Phil. 2001-2004

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFC_East

 

[CouchCoach]

“I want you to know that almost as I was handing in the card, it was that close to putting that Manziel card in. It was that close,” Jones said. “I looked over to my son, Stephen, our chief executive officer, and I said ‘I took the right pick.’"

Yeah, I don't see Stephen snatching a card out of the hand that gave him a cushy career. But it makes some fans feel good to believe it.

If anyone here saw the SEC special "Before They Were Cowboys" and saw how emotional Stephen got when just talking about what his Dad means to him, they'd toss that "pushing him up against the wall and snatching that card out of his hands" right into the trash. Just because some here would like to do that, they wanted to buy he would treat his father like that in the war room.

 

[CouchCoach]

It is hilarious that you would use the word respect since you show less than zero for Jones. That's the type of thing we used to hear in grade school so either you're still in grade school or you never matured past the grader school level.
.

Not in grade school so by method of elimination it is the other. And you're just a big ole smarty pants.

OK, I'll try this just one more time. Billionaire on the opening night of his crown jewel is caught on camera, Boogertron and national TV, with his finger a good knuckle up his nose. Ya know if we hadn't lost that game, preceded by that embarrassing loss to close the old stadium, I might have not adopted that as his new nickname, and it's just my immaturity that makes me like nicknames anyway, but it became immediate and forever. If he passes before I do, it will be Booger, RIP.

As far as respect, I do not respect anyone I do not know. I may respect their accomplishments, as I do his, but as far as true respect, nah, that has to be earned. I dunno, when I grow up, maybe I'll change.

 

[CouchCoach]

They’ve drafted well overall recently in 1st round. Why wouldn’t we have more faith they could draft a QB?

Because they've been taking safer position to project than QB. Other than Mayfield, what 1st round QB looks like one of those Tier 1's to you? I don't see one out of this year's draft class either.

Tua and Herbert are the front runners for 2020 but neither is a guarantee but you can bet unless they stumble, the competition to get them will be high. We will know more about Tua this season because Saban shouldn't pull him so early in games, I think he wins the Heisman last year if he plays more games. He will be compared to Mahomes because of that delivery of darts but he was too effective early in the games and got himself rested too early. He also has this lower leg issues that has raised it's ugly head more than once.

And we're jumping the gun on being married to Prescott when the contract is done. If he were to spiral, they're only on the hook for the salary, not the player. They could select another and pay him a 1st round rookie salary.

 

[Diehardblues]

Because they've been taking safer position to project than QB. Other than Mayfield, what 1st round QB looks like one of those Tier 1's to you? I don't see one out of this year's draft class either.

Tua and Herbert are the front runners for 2020 but neither is a guarantee but you can bet unless they stumble, the competition to get them will be high. We will know more about Tua this season because Saban shouldn't pull him so early in games, I think he wins the Heisman last year if he plays more games. He will be compared to Mahomes because of that delivery of darts but he was too effective early in the games and got himself rested too early. He also has this lower leg issues that has raised it's ugly head more than once.

And we're jumping the gun on being married to Prescott when the contract is done. If he were to spiral, they're only on the hook for the salary, not the player. They could select another and pay him a 1st round rookie salary.

I’m not talking about just this year. Drafting our next generational QB has not been a priority in several years.

 

[CouchCoach]

I’m not talking about just this year.

Drafting our next generational QB has not been a priority in several years.

Who is to say we will have that generational QB and attempts to get one inn the 1st might mean other positions like OL, LB and CB don't get met trying to core one generational QB.

Hell, look at the teams that have had them and are still 0 on generational QB's. DEN, MIA, SF, BUF and then teams like ATL and DET get QB's that could be that if only they'd built the right team around them.

Greg, the attempt to get that generational QB has stunted the growth of many a team because they've become too reliant on that position and MIA is the perfect example and they should know better than any team about that.

 

[Whirlwin]

He doesn't make every decision Only the final one.

Tell that to Johnny Manziel.

 

[Whirlwin]

If Jerry wanted Johnny College he would've been the pick.

I totally disagree with that. Jerry definitely wanted Johnny

 

[CouchCoach]

Fact check:
NFC East back to back titles

Dallas 70-71, 76-79, 92-96
Stl. 74-75
Wash. 82-84
NY. 89-90
Phil. 2001-2004

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFC_East

Yep and I wonder if that cycle will change this season too. Add to that the odd year records of the Cowboys and there is good reason to not buy in that they will repeat.

Now, I am not confident that Wentz can stay healthy all season so there's that but the fly in our ointment just might not be them but those pesky Commanders. They have this uncanny habit of showing up when least expected and overstaying their welcome. And I can agree with every reason posters put up here that they won't, just like I could have those other times they showed up.

 

[Whirlwin]

...the fact that commentators are now saying Stephen and Will McClay, and not Jerry, are running things.

Discuss....

Imagine youngest starting team in the league, third youngest overall. The Experience last season was priceless

 

[Whirlwin]

Yep and I wonder if that cycle will change this season too. Add to that the odd year records of the Cowboys and there is good reason to not buy in that they will repeat.

Now, I am not confident that Wentz can stay healthy all season so there's that but the fly in our ointment just might not be them but those pesky Commanders. They have this uncanny habit of showing up when least expected and overstaying their welcome. And I can agree with every reason posters put up here that they won't, just like I could have those other times they showed up.

Are you the same Coach K from the old Cowboys fan forum.

 

[Hardline]

Tell that to Johnny Manziel.

Not drafting Johnny College was Jerry's final decision .
You trying to make a point?

 

[Hardline]

I totally disagree with that. Jerry definitely wanted Johnny

Jerry chose not to draft him. If Jerr definitely wanted him they would have drafted him .
Jerry makes the bottom line decisions

 

[Whirlwin]

Jerry chose not to draft him. If Jerr definitely wanted him they would have drafted him .
Jerry makes the bottom line decisions

Again I totally disagree.