Another sign we’re close?

Diehardblues

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Fair enough. But I am having a hard time naming any that won multiple Super Bowls besides them. The Giants lucked into two of them (one time when they probably shouldn't even have been in the playoffs). The Saints, Packers, and Ravens won one and haven't been heard from since. Same for several other teams.

The Cowboys had decent shots at titles in 2007, 2009, 2014, 2016, and (arguably) last season. Change a play here and there and maybe Romo got a ring one of those times.

Don't misunderstand me; I am not happy with simple regular season success. The Cowboys' legacy is built on championships; not by simply being a playoff team every year. But my point is the NFL is set up today so that any team can win it all in any given year.

I may be delusional, but it gives me hope the Cowboys are close to the mountaintop again.
Your framing the argument with “ multiple Super Bowl winners”.

There’s several other teams who not only won a Super Bowl but had multiple SB and or championship game appearances which I’d trade places with.

And the teams with the Elite QB’s were mostly participating in these contest.
 
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LMAO.

I've had more posters over here rag on me for that than ever on the old site. But then, you guys on the old site knew I called him Ole Sphincter Face and saw Booger as an improvement. I think he did doo.
I remember asking you the origins and laughed my butt off when you showed me.
 

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We are already at a disadvantage with our front office and coaching staff; shame we have to be at QB too.
 

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We have built a very strong roster. Just need a coach to put us over the hump. But the talent is there.
We aren’t going to get the coach we want. That’s why I want a greater qb.Not sure we have enough to carry him.

We need a QB and team talented enough to carry our coach and GM.
 
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If you think he’s sailing off in the sunset , I’d argue don’t have a good sense of why he’s doing this.

it was more of a joke as in he's about to die bc he's old but I guess I didn't do a good job
 

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Jerry has the final decision. He could have overruled everyone and took Johnny College. He made the decision not to.

Yes as I said he now listens to others and then makes up his mind. Stephen and McClay convinced Jerry it would be a mistake so he decided not to draft Johnny football.
 

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But that’s my question. We’re all aware that they don’t REALLY know. But does the fact that more of these “informed speculators” are apparently fostering the perception that Jerry has stepped back a little signal a change? Follow me here. For decades, the prevailing perception outside the Cowboy fan base has been that of an underachieving dumpster fire. Jerry Jones, evil Corporate CEO, a drunken, arrogant know-nothing, fostering a country club atmosphere. A meddling old pervert, an arm twisting PT Barnum pushing his overrated version of gridiron royalty. Hordes of jealous losers gleefully ate it up, but could the media be attempting to change the scenario—returning Dallas to prominence to regain ratings succe$$? The league has seen a downturn in recent years for a number of reasons. Are they preparing the white hats for us again?

First off there may have been a couple of talking heads that thought of the front office (Jerry) like you detailed but the lion's share of that kind of redirect came/comes from disgruntled fans or people that claim to be fans which mean less than those talking heads who are now GUESSING what MAY BE happening or pushing the scenario they would like to see happen. Jones is still one of the most powerful owners in the league.
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Fine by me but I don't know the last two *'s. Should I feel special or depressed?

I am the only one I know that calls him Booger, and respect demands that be capitalized, so it is Booger World or the Big Top, the Booger Boogie Bus and the Boogertron and now the Booger Boat. That seems to upset some people which doesn't seem to upset me.

It is hilarious that you would use the word respect since you show less than zero for Jones. That's the type of thing we used to hear in grade school so either you're still in grade school or you never matured past the grader school level.
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We aren’t going to get the coach we want. That’s why I want a greater qb.Not sure we have enough to carry him.

We need a QB and team talented enough to carry our coach and GM.

Well i think we have the team to do that. But I understand where your coming from. I believe only 1 of 2 things can lift you past the parity of the NFL. That is elite coaching or elite QB. We have neither. But we have a QB and an extremely talented roster that can get the job done I believe. Its just hard to sustain it for long in todays NFL without at least one of the two. Everyone wants to get paid eventually.. Our window is already starting to close.
 

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Bottomline is he didn’t take either. But they might have made it in this offense.

We really haven’t tried to draft a franchise qb this era. We’ve had success using high picks for other key positions , why not qb?

Bottom line, neither of those guys "made it" anywhere in the NFL, so your theory has no basis.

What arbitrary "era" is yours? Mine is the Jerry-after-Jimmy era, which speaks for itself.
 

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Bottom line, neither of those guys "made it" anywhere in the NFL, so your theory has no basis.

What arbitrary "era" is yours? Mine is the Jerry-after-Jimmy era, which speaks for itself.
Who’s to say Dak would have made it in either of those offenses they were in? It’s all subjective.

I usually use 21st Century as this era. But we can go back to 1994 but we didn’t need a QB then?
 
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Who’s to say Dak would hVe made it in either of those offenses they were in? It’s all subjective.

I usually use 21st Century as this era. But we can go back to 1994 but we didn’t need a QB then?

There's nothing "subjective" about Manziel and Lynch doing nothing in the NFL, as well as the failed Quincy pick. Stop rationalizing.

Dak has had success in Dallas, anything else is speculation wreaking of an agenda. I'm as critical as anyone of the regime - my avatar isn't an accident - but I favor reality over fantasy. There's nothing to suggest Jerry using a first round pick for a "franchise QB" would definitely be successful, unless we go back to the Jimmy era almost 30 years ago.
 

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There's nothing "subjective" about Manziel and Lynch doing nothing in the NFL, as well as the failed Quincy pick. Stop rationalizing.

Dak has had success in Dallas, anything else is speculation wreaking of an agenda. I'm as critical as anyone of the regime - my avatar isn't an accident - but I favor reality over fantasy. There's nothing to suggest Jerry using a first round pick for a "franchise QB" would definitely be successful, unless we go back to the Jimmy era almost 30 years ago.
Who said anything about “ definitely” ? There’s never guarantees.

Even going back to Parcells I said his biggest mistake was not using a high pick for a QB.
 

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Who said anything about “ definitely” ? There’s never guarantees.

Even going back to Parcells I said his biggest mistake was not using a high pick for a QB.

Who cares what you (allegedly) said over a decade ago, besides you? :rolleyes:

So many people here talk about a first round "franchise QB" like it's a guarantee while so many of them never reach Dak levels.

Am I sold on Dak? No. But I have more confidence in him than I do in Jerry & Stephen making a big move for someone better.
 

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Who cares what you (allegedly) said over a decade ago, besides you? :rolleyes:

So many people here talk about a first round "franchise QB" like it's a guarantee while so many of them never reach Dak levels.

Am I sold on Dak? No. But I have more confidence in him than I do in Jerry & Stephen making a big move for someone better.
They’ve drafted well overall recently in 1st round. Why wouldn’t we have more faith they could draft a QB?
 

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They’ve drafted well overall recently in 1st round. Why wouldn’t we have more faith they could draft a QB?

Because they haven't done it since the early Jimmy days.

I'm not going to spend 3 pages debating a dead horse. Later.
 

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That’s fine if we don’t have aspirations for winning championships. Otherwise we become more like the rest chasing their dreams.

The teams with the generational talent are in better position.

Besides that , we’ll just mosey along much like we have this era hoping for that one shining moment instead of another Glory Era.

Who doesn’t aspire to win? Who doesn’t want generational talent? Know how to get some? Guaranteed?
 

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First off there may have been a couple of talking heads that thought of the front office (Jerry) like you detailed but the lion's share of that kind of redirect came/comes from disgruntled fans or people that claim to be fans which mean less than those talking heads who are now GUESSING what MAY BE happening or pushing the scenario they would like to see happen. Jones is still one of the most powerful owners in the league.
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Boy, you hit the nail on the head with that disgruntled fan thing...
 
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