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I totally disagree with that. Jerry definitely wanted Johnny
I am not so sure about that but he did say he was still a little perturbed that he didn't get him but not for the player but for the promotion. According to them, they spent their entire 15 interview minutes on his off field behavior. Not a better red flag than that.

What I think happened was the old PT Booger got excited when he began to fall because they'd projected him to be gone. I think he started quick selling himself off the vibe they got in the interview. I predicted he would be a Cowboy early in his freshman year because of the light shining on him for marketing and the fact he was an Aggie. Booger could fill that stadium with the Aggie alums just in that area and sell all of them a wardrobe of #2 jerseys.

That comment Parcells made about keeping Booger from his tendencies was job 1 for everybody in that war room, because he saw a promotable star unlike any he'd never seen before, the best center ring attraction in all sports. Plus, that money sign than Manziel made warmed Booger's heart every time he saw it.

However, if he'd wanted Manziel that bad, he would have been a Cowboy.
 

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I don't think Jerry has made a football decision in the last 2 seasons. Yes he has input. He no longer has those College contacts he wants head. They trust in William
 

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I am not so sure about that but he did say he was still a little perturbed that he didn't get him but not for the player but for the promotion. According to them, they spent their entire 15 interview minutes on his off field behavior. Not a better red flag than that.

What I think happened was the old PT Booger got excited when he began to fall because they'd projected him to be gone. I think he started quick selling himself off the vibe they got in the interview. I predicted he would be a Cowboy early in his freshman year because of the light shining on him for marketing and the fact he was an Aggie. Booger could fill that stadium with the Aggie alums just in that area and sell all of them a wardrobe of #2 jerseys.

That comment Parcells made about keeping Booger from his tendencies was job 1 for everybody in that war room, because he saw a promotable star unlike any he'd never seen before, the best center ring attraction in all sports. Plus, that money sign than Manziel made warmed Booger's heart every time he saw it.
Jerry no longer has those College contacts he once had. They trust more in William a McClay than most people think. Absolutely Jerry has input but the final say I believe it's by committee and not by Jerry alone
 

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It's fine to disagree but at least have a logical basis for it
The logic is he no longer has those College contacts. It's by committee not by Jerry alone it hasn't been for two seasons now in my opinion. Maybe you didn't understand or read that
 

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No and he's probably mad at you for suggesting that. I had the same moniker over there. Funny, no one else seemed to want it.
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I don't think Jerry has made a football decision in the last 2 seasons. Yes he has input. He no longer has those College contacts he wants head. They trust in William
If you saw the McGovern pick from the war room, that pretty much put to rest that Booger's not involved and McClay's job is done once the draft begins. He helps build the board and his job is done according to reports.

I am not underestimating McClay's importance to the decision making but if Booger is the final call on the 3rd round pick and everyone shuts down after he says "let's take McGovern", I think that McClay and Son are running the team is wishful thinking. And when he said to take McGovern, I am pretty certain it was his confidence in McClay's board that made him stay the course.
 

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If you saw the McGovern pick from the war room, that pretty much put to rest that Booger's not involved and McClay's job is done once the draft begins. He helps build the board and his job is done according to reports.

I am not underestimating McClay's importance to the decision making but if Booger is the final call on the 3rd round pick and everyone shuts down after he says "let's take McGovern", I think that McClay and Son are running the team is wishful thinking. And when he said to take McGovern, I am pretty certain it was his confidence in McClay's board that made him stay the course.
I totally believe again it's by committee. If you want to still believe Jerry is making all the decisions that's fine. I believe it's by committee. The actual final say is by intelligence not Jerry alone . I don't think Steven or William are running the team.. Jerry had all the input decision making in his pocket. I truly believe that no longer is the factor.
 

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Who is to say we will have that generational QB and attempts to get one inn the 1st might mean other positions like OL, LB and CB don't get met trying to core one generational QB.

Hell, look at the teams that have had them and are still 0 on generational QB's. DEN, MIA, SF, BUF and then teams like ATL and DET get QB's that could be that if only they'd built the right team around them.

Greg, the attempt to get that generational QB has stunted the growth of many a team because they've become too reliant on that position and MIA is the perfect example and they should know better than any team about that.
I understand but in the end without it we aren’t any better unless we miraculously build around a lesser QB.

There’s two type of teams in the NFL now. Those trying to build with an Elite QB and those trying to overcome building around a lesser one.

Im tired of being on the shorter end of the stick. I might have more hope without one if we weren’t already challenged with our dysfunctional situation from ownership and lesser coaching staff.
 

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I understand but in the end without it we aren’t any better unless we miraculously build around a lesser QB.

There’s two type of teams in the NFL now. Those with an Elite QB and those trying to build around a lesser one.

Im tired of being on the shorter end of the stick. I might have more hope without one if we weren’t already challenged with our dysfunctional situation from ownership.
I have issue with Elite quarterback. What actually is an elite quarterback. My opinion there's only been three. Brady obviously. Can win with any combination of running back receivers. John Elway. Dan Marino
 

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The emphasis on team in the salary-cap era football we play in. The word can't be expressed enough how important it is you can't win by quarterback alone any longer. There's not enough talent to go around
 

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The logic is he no longer has those College contacts. It's by committee not by Jerry alone it hasn't been for two seasons now in my opinion. Maybe you didn't understand or read that
He still has them and has his suite in Fayetteville and his contact with Bielema is why we took Yosemite where we did. He also brings the most college teams to his stadium outside of their own home stadiums.

But he doesn't scout players like some GM's. He is still a part time GM but the part of the time he spends on it is the critical time.
 

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I have issue with Elite quarterback. What actually is an elite quarterback. My opinion there's only been three. Brady obviously. Can win with any combination of running back receivers. John Elway. Dan Marino
It is a subjective description. Id define as HOF caliber or at least near top 5 in passing. I’ve often described Elite QB as prolific passers. Winning a SB doesn’t necessarily define Elite.
 

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It is a subjective description. Id define as HOF caliber or at least near top 5 in passing. I’ve often described Elite QB as prolific passers. Winning a SB doesn’t necessarily define Elite.
I understand I was just trying to put my two cents in how I feel about people using the word elite. No disrespect intended
 

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Aaron Rodgers he's my biggest issue. Without the right Personnel I think he's a loser. Threw the ball up for the grabs mr. Hail Mary.
 

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Who is to say we will have that generational QB and attempts to get one inn the 1st might mean other positions like OL, LB and CB don't get met trying to core one generational QB.

Hell, look at the teams that have had them and are still 0 on generational QB's. DEN, MIA, SF, BUF and then teams like ATL and DET get QB's that could be that if only they'd built the right team around them.

Greg, the attempt to get that generational QB has stunted the growth of many a team because they've become too reliant on that position and MIA is the perfect example and they should know better than any team about that.


Thank you! Well put! Saves me some extra unwanted back and forth typing, which is tiring and time consuming for a lazy absurdist like myself when debating a brick wall. By the way, when I grow up, I hope I share your affinity for booger mining...
 

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The emphasis on team in the salary-cap era football we play in. The word can't be expressed enough how important it is you can't win by quarterback alone any longer. There's not enough talent to go around
At any position, not just QB. Some teams are going to have to "settle" for a Tier 2 to try and get the job done.

That's why I am OK with Prescott. I do not see another feasible option and I do like the idea of a team being aware they have to build around that guy. Staubach and Aikman were better than any QB's we've had and both had great teams built around them. Particularly, on the other side of the line.
 

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The other fact is no team in the NFCE has ever won back-to-back division titles. There's no doubt in my mind the Cowboys will be the first team in the division to accomplish such a feat in 2019-2020 season. They're going to be tougher and harder to beat.
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At any position, not just QB. Some teams are going to have to "settle" for a Tier 2 to try and get the job done.

That's why I am OK with Prescott. I do not see another feasible option and I do like the idea of a team being aware they have to build around that guy. Staubach and Aikman were better than any QB's we've had and both had great teams built around them. Particularly, on the other side of the line.
I believe we had 17 starters at quarterback after Troy Aikman left before Tony Romo started. How many people remember Randall Cunningham was a cowboy. I still can't
 
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