Twitter: NFL may be trying to make an example out of Zeke

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Zeke is the kind of guy that while he doesn't get arrested, he likes to push the envelope and bump up against legality and just stay just barely on the legal side of things. That is not a good thing when you are such a high profile athlete on the highest profile team in sports.

His off field behavior is untrustworthy. He can no longer use his youth as an excuse. I would be very careful in giving him huge guaranteed money if I were Jerry and Stephen.
 

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There are always teams willing to take a chance on troubled players. Skins signed foster. Hunt got signed. Incognito just signed by raiders. It's not just jerry. Just a few days earlier, zeke was deified for paying a young man's funeral costs. Pots calling kettles black. Sinless casting stones.
True but none have taken more chances and then encourage them to fight the leagues ruling .

And if that wasn’t enough to call out the rest of the leagues owner threatening law suit.

I think he came closer in 2016 to being severely disciplined or potentially oustered than most realized if he had continued his rhetoric and path.
 

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It is a nothing incident. The league taking action doesn't change that.
Huh? If the league takes action it becomes a something incident, that’s the point. It is nothing right now but could potentially become something.
 

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It's not a "nothing incident" when you have a track record of issues off the field and already have faced the NFL firing squad. If Jason Witten or Julio Jones do something like this, it disappears quickly. Because for those guys, they have zero track record of stupidity off the field. But if Elliott or Hill or any other player with a history of off the field issue does it, it's going to be an issue.

You may not like it, but that's the reality. You can't just take Elliott off the field situations and put them in a vacuum and ignore the bigger picture here.

It's downright perplexing that you guys continually don't grasp this concept.
It is a nothing incident.

The league might make something out of it, but nothing happened. Bigger picture is irrelevant beyond the league being vindictive.
 

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Huh? If the league takes action it becomes a something incident, that’s the point. It is nothing right now but could potentially become something.
No, it doesn't. It's still a nothing incident, the league might just choose to punish a guy for it.

If you made a fart joke in the office, and some people laughed, it's a nothing incident. It becomes a problem when one person decides to be offended. That's what we're talking about here.
 

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The league hasn't even announced punishment on Hill yet, so I don't know why people keep bringing that up. They're investigating that incident too. Zeke is a repeat offender. Every time he takes a misstep, he's gonna get popped. He has no one to blame but himself.
Agree but any other player will be brought up to give credence to the theory they're out to get the Cowboys. The Cowboys that can always be counted on to bring in the ratings, those Cowboys.
 

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The league office hands out fines and suspensions, not owners or players, so not really sure where you're going with this.
Can't help you. Many were bashing jerry as enabler. Point was many other teams do the same thing. It's crisis management. The need to win trumps everything else.
 

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It is a nothing incident.

The league might make something out of it, but nothing happened. Bigger picture is irrelevant beyond the league being vindictive.

If "nothing happened" we wouldn't be having these conversations. Zeke is beyond an "oh poor me" or "the league is out to get me" defense. He's repeatedly put himself in bad situations. I was steadfastly behind him in regards to his first major suspension, but this incident is definitely a bad look. You can say "nothing happened", but the video, the woman, the security guard and the league sure seem to think different.

Denial is clearly not just a river in Egypt.
 

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Can't help you. Many were bashing jerry as enabler. Point was many other teams do the same thing. It's crisis management. The need to win trumps everything else.

Ah ok. Makes complete sense now. My bad.
 

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Zeke is part of this new generation of human being/athlete that NEVER ever thinks THEY need to be held responsible. Rather, they actually think THEY run the show. Spoiled rotten and told how great he is from the time he was in highschool til now will do that...
 

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One thing that is going to affect this with the league because of his alleged and videoed history. They're going to want to know exactly what he was doing by stepping in front of that woman more than once to block her path. It will come down to whether they determine that to be intimidation and I know if we'd discuss that here, we'd get into another heated debate but I can guarantee you not one woman here would see that as anything but intimidation by a larger and stronger man. The security guard may not be as critical to them as what was going on with a player, that they have determined to be a problem where women are concerned and that woman.

And there is also a chance that was not what it looked like but they will want to find out.
 

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Get a grip, folks.

Whether the last suspension was dumb, it doesn't matter - Goodell was clear with Zeke and that he should have stayed out of trouble. This is NOT the first incident with Zeke since the off season, he almost got into it with a DJ as well (which everyone blamed the DJ) - now it's the security guards fault...

Zeke is either the unluckiest guy or he is out looking for trouble OR he handles situations thrust upon him in the worst ways. Either way, this stuff is beginning to escalate with him and if he gets suspended - that's 2 out of his 4 seasons with us that he has missed time due to suspensions. And Jerry and Stephen would be stupid to say this wouldn't impact extension talks, just from contract total ALONE it should impact it.
 

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Yep.. That's the problem.

This would never be heard about again if it was any other player. Dallas just gets it handed to them in these situations.
Inconsistent...yes. Dallas being some sort of conspiracy victim...no. I agree Zeke got screwed the first time but that doesn’t change his lack of concern and poor decisions while being investigated. There are plenty of other teams/players that can make a case the NFL targets them too. Please don’t act like we’re the only ones.
 

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If "nothing happened" we wouldn't be having these conversations. Zeke is beyond an "oh poor me" or "the league is out to get me" defense. He's repeatedly put himself in bad situations. I was steadfastly behind him in regards to his first major suspension, but this incident is definitely a bad look. You can say "nothing happened", but the video, the woman, the security guard and the league sure seem to think different.

Denial is clearly not just a river in Egypt.
We've all seen the video. Nothing happened.
 

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True but none have taken more chances and then encourage them to fight the leagues ruling .

And if that wasn’t enough to call out the rest of the leagues owner threatening law suit.

I think he came closer in 2016 to being severely disciplined or potentially oustered than most realized if he had continued his rhetoric and path.
Balderdash.
 

mattjames2010

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It is a nothing incident. The league taking action doesn't change that.

You can continue repeating this - being caught on tape drunk and getting into it with security guards and his girl and potentially being suspended is not a "nothing incident".

LOL this place.
 
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