Jerry’s bad timing

[Bobhaze]

Blind spots. We all have them. Those areas of our lives where we cannot see what others see plainly. Unfortunately, the most powerful person in our favorite team’s front office has more blind spots than a blind man. And perhaps worse, his timing on when to make moves (changes) is terrible. In fact, it’s one of his biggest blind spots.

What I mean by bad timing is this: Jerry too often waits until something or someone so obviously needs to go, he is forced to make a change. This is is a very bad habit in the NFL, where timing is important both on and off the field.

How does Jerry have a bad sense of when it’s time to make a change? Let us count the ways:

• Early on in Jerry’s reign, he had the opposite problem than today by having a fast hook on his HC. Today the timing problem is having a long hook. Most owners would have fired their HC after 8 seasons for only making the playoffs 3 times and only winning 2 playoff games. Not JJ. I have fears that if the Cowboys go 8-8 next year, he finds a way to excuse keeping his red headed step son.

• He has a habit of hanging on to players who have long proven they are not worth it. Chaz Green, Gavin Escobar, Ro McClain, Josh Brent, Greg Hardy, to name a few. Loyalty is good in many aspects of life. But not for an NFL GM.

• Keeping key coaches around too long. Scott Linehan is the most recent example. After the debacle of 2017, he should have been fired. But then again, Garrett should have been fired on the tarmac in Atlanta after what Chaz Green was allowed to do.

• Jerry has a habit of talking too much, just when the team needs him to shut up. Whenever this team starts playing well or poorly, Jerry seems to talk the most. And most of his meaningless drivel does zero to actually help his team or his HC.

Will Jerry ever have any good timing? At 76, old ways die hard. But it will be interesting to see if Jerry does what is obvious to almost every Cowboys fan- if we don’t win big this year, Garrett must go.

 

[SoupcanSam]

You would think the closer jerry gets to kicking the bucket he would have a sense of urgency. The guy must believe he is living in BC times.

 

[jazzcat22]

Wow another bash Jerry / Jason thread.

With the salary cap fans see it as hanging onto a player too long. From running a team it may not be all that simple as get rid of this player and plug in the next.

You made a great point about hanging onto Garrett too long, but it wasn't all on Jerry for the fast hook on Jimmy.
Remember the old bad OL when Jason took over, it didn't take him long to get rid of them, as well as others. And they took cap hits because of it. So that limited them as to what they could do each year. But Jason and company started drafting OL to rebuild it.

We been hearing "Jerry speak" for years. Most should be immune to it now.

 

[Tangle_Foot]

Jerry's bad timing is the result of running on EST.
Ego Standard Time

 

[Blackrain]

Blind spots. We all have them. Those areas of our lives where we cannot see what others see plainly. Unfortunately, the most powerful person in our favorite team’s front office has more blind spots than a blind man. And perhaps worse, his timing on when to make moves (changes) is terrible. In fact, it’s one of his biggest blind spots.

What I mean by bad timing is this: Jerry too often waits until something or someone so obviously needs to go, he is forced to make a change. This is is a very bad habit in the NFL, where timing is important both on and off the field.

How does Jerry have a bad sense of when it’s time to make a change? Let us count the ways:

• Early on in Jerry’s reign, he had the opposite problem than today by having a fast hook on his HC. Today the timing problem is having a long hook. Most owners would have fired their HC after 8 seasons for only making the playoffs 3 times and only winning 2 playoff games. Not JJ. I have fears that if the Cowboys go 8-8 next year, he finds a way to excuse keeping his red headed step son.

• He has a habit of hanging on to players who have long proven they are not worth it. Chaz Green, Gavin Escobar, Ro McClain, Josh Brent, Greg Hardy, to name a few. Loyalty is good in many aspects of life. But not for an NFL GM.

• Keeping key coaches around too long. Scott Linehan is the most recent example. After the debacle of 2017, he should have been fired. But then again, Garrett should have been fired on the tarmac in Atlanta after what Chaz Green was allowed to do.

• Jerry has a habit of talking too much, just when the team needs him to shut up. Whenever this team starts playing well or poorly, Jerry seems to talk the most. And most of his meaningless drivel does zero to actually help his team or his HC.

Will Jerry ever have any good timing? At 76, old ways die hard. But it will be interesting to see if Jerry does what is obvious to almost every Cowboys fan- if we don’t win big this year, Garrett must go.

On target Bullett In short since winning a SB with Switzer Jerry has never put the proper value on coaching and it has killed us and continues to squander our best efforts after acquiring talent and making the playoffs .

Its Jerrys hobby and more than timing it about comfort . Jerrys comfort with a coach has been proven to be the most important commodity not there ability to out think the guy across from them . Fans in this era must adjust there expectations as the cap prohibits acquiring enough talent to over come the type of coach Jerry feels comfortable with .

Sorry we can bench race it to death but it just a fact of life with Jerry in charge

That said I think Jerrys timing with drafting Pollard was spot on considering Zekes work load the last few yrs and his off field problems that seem to continue along with the fact we had zero return game

 

[Blackrain]

Wow another bash Jerry / Jason thread.

With the salary cap fans see it as hanging onto a player too long. From running a team it may not be all that simple as get rid of this player and plug in the next.

You made a great point about hanging onto Garrett too long, but it wasn't all on Jerry for the fast hook on Jimmy.
Remember the old bad OL when Jason took over, it didn't take him long to get rid of them, as well as others. And they took cap hits because of it. So that limited them as to what they could do each year. But Jason and company started drafting OL to rebuild it.

We been hearing "Jerry speak" for years. Most should be immune to it now.

Jason is very good at acquiring talent just not good at coaching in big moments PLAYOFFS. Would like to see him promoted to assistant GM and a Game Day coach hired

 

[INCowboysFan]

Blind spots. We all have them. Those areas of our lives where we cannot see what others see plainly. Unfortunately, the most powerful person in our favorite team’s front office has more blind spots than a blind man. And perhaps worse, his timing on when to make moves (changes) is terrible. In fact, it’s one of his biggest blind spots.

What I mean by bad timing is this: Jerry too often waits until something or someone so obviously needs to go, he is forced to make a change. This is is a very bad habit in the NFL, where timing is important both on and off the field.

How does Jerry have a bad sense of when it’s time to make a change? Let us count the ways:

• Early on in Jerry’s reign, he had the opposite problem than today by having a fast hook on his HC. Today the timing problem is having a long hook. Most owners would have fired their HC after 8 seasons for only making the playoffs 3 times and only winning 2 playoff games. Not JJ. I have fears that if the Cowboys go 8-8 next year, he finds a way to excuse keeping his red headed step son.

• He has a habit of hanging on to players who have long proven they are not worth it. Chaz Green, Gavin Escobar, Ro McClain, Josh Brent, Greg Hardy, to name a few. Loyalty is good in many aspects of life. But not for an NFL GM.

• Keeping key coaches around too long. Scott Linehan is the most recent example. After the debacle of 2017, he should have been fired. But then again, Garrett should have been fired on the tarmac in Atlanta after what Chaz Green was allowed to do.

• Jerry has a habit of talking too much, just when the team needs him to shut up. Whenever this team starts playing well or poorly, Jerry seems to talk the most. And most of his meaningless drivel does zero to actually help his team or his HC.

Will Jerry ever have any good timing? At 76, old ways die hard. But it will be interesting to see if Jerry does what is obvious to almost every Cowboys fan- if we don’t win big this year, Garrett must go.

I've never understood having a fast hook on a head coach. You want to build continuity and allow time for the coach to fully implement his system, etc. But in today's win now NFL, fans expect immediate gratification. With that said, I think Garrett is in big trouble if he doesn't make a run this year. On paper, this could be the best team he has put on the field, so he better do something with it. I totally agree that Linehan should have been let go sooner than he was.

As far as players go, I think it's a mixed bag. I think he let Dez go at the right time. Greg Hardy only played 12 games for us, so I don't see how that can be construed as keeping him too long (even if he was causing locker room problems). Escobar played out his rookie contract and was not resigned. Ro Mac only played 2 seasons even though he was under contract. I don't see an issue with keeping such a talented player in your back pocket hoping he would clean up. It didn't happen and now he's not here. They have done/are doing the same thing with Gregory. Chaz Green should have been given a bus ticket after the ATL game, but you don't see tons of guys getting cut during the season anymore.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Some of you guys are good at finding a lot of different ways to say the same thing.

 

[Jake]

You would think the closer jerry gets to kicking the bucket he would have a sense of urgency. The guy must believe he is living in BC times.

I love those stories. People living 500 years with no medical care, no sanitation, and worst of all no internet.

 

[Jake]

Wow another bash Jerry / Jason thread.

With the salary cap fans see it as hanging onto a player too long. From running a team it may not be all that simple as get rid of this player and plug in the next.

You made a great point about hanging onto Garrett too long, but it wasn't all on Jerry for the fast hook on Jimmy.
Remember the old bad OL when Jason took over, it didn't take him long to get rid of them, as well as others. And they took cap hits because of it. So that limited them as to what they could do each year. But Jason and company started drafting OL to rebuild it.

We been hearing "Jerry speak" for years. Most should be immune to it now.

It's June. It's either bash Jerry, bash JG, bash Dak, or talk about how we're loaded and going to win the Super Bowl with those guys.

 

[OmerV]

• He has a habit of hanging on to players who have long proven they are not worth it. Chaz Green, Gavin Escobar, Ro McClain, Josh Brent, Greg Hardy, to name a few. Loyalty is good in many aspects of life. But not for an NFL GM.

• Keeping key coaches around too long. Scott Linehan is the most recent example. After the debacle of 2017, he should have been fired. But then again, Garrett should have been fired on the tarmac in Atlanta after what Chaz Green was allowed to do.

• Jerry has a habit of talking too much, just when the team needs him to shut up. Whenever this team starts playing well or poorly, Jerry seems to talk the most. And most of his meaningless drivel does zero to actually help his team or his HC.

Will Jerry ever have any good timing? At 76, old ways die hard. But it will be interesting to see if Jerry does what is obvious to almost every Cowboys fan- if we don’t win big this year, Garrett must go.

Hardy didn’t even get a second season (I’m not sure he finished his first). Green and Escobar didn’t last beyond didn’t last past their rookie contracts and was gone the next season after his meltdown. And McClain was always a risk from the beginning.

 

[acr731]

When you spend a majority of your time drunk you tend to have bad timing with things. I don't know how anyone can operate when they're constantly dealing with a hangover.

 

[robjay04]

You brought up Chaz Green but wasn’t he cut the off-season after his disaster game? He went to camp but didn’t make the team.

Maybe you could argue we should’ve cut him during the season but the coaches probably thought he was a better player than that. He was considered good depth going into that season.

Greg Hardy was here for one season. We could’ve cut him when we were eliminated from the playoffs but he was still the best pass rusher on the team.

McClain was a low risk resigning. We drafted Jaylon Smith that off-season so we had no long term plans for him.

Josh Brent? He was an okay player. Team felt bad for him.

I’ll give you Escobar but it’s kind of hard to even see what a backup would do when Witten sees 98 percent of snaps.

Not including Hardy...I would estimate all the players you named accounted for less than 1.5 million in cap space over their last year here.

 

[acr731]

Wow another bash Jerry / Jason thread.

With the salary cap fans see it as hanging onto a player too long. From running a team it may not be all that simple as get rid of this player and plug in the next.

You made a great point about hanging onto Garrett too long, but it wasn't all on Jerry for the fast hook on Jimmy.
Remember the old bad OL when Jason took over, it didn't take him long to get rid of them, as well as others. And they took cap hits because of it. So that limited them as to what they could do each year. But Jason and company started drafting OL to rebuild it.

We been hearing "Jerry speak" for years. Most should be immune to it now.

It's June. It's either bash Jerry, bash JG, bash Dak, or talk about how we're loaded and going to win the Super Bowl with those guys.

We're gonna bash you two if you keep it up.

 

[Bobhaze]

I've never understood having a fast hook on a head coach. You want to build continuity and allow time for the coach to fully implement his system, etc. But in today's win now NFL, fans expect immediate gratification. With that said, I think Garrett is in big trouble if he doesn't make a run this year. On paper, this could be the best team he has put on the field, so he better do something with it. I totally agree that Linehan should have been let go sooner than he was.

As far as players go, I think it's a mixed bag. I think he let Dez go at the right time. Greg Hardy only played 12 games for us, so I don't see how that can be construed as keeping him too long (even if he was causing locker room problems). Escobar played out his rookie contract and was not resigned. Ro Mac only played 2 seasons even though he was under contract. I don't see an issue with keeping such a talented player in your back pocket hoping he would clean up. It didn't happen and now he's not here. They have done/are doing the same thing with Gregory. Chaz Green should have been given a bus ticket after the ATL game, but you don't see tons of guys getting cut during the season anymore.

I agree with you on the Dez timing. But with Hardy, my problem was both the timing of signing him, which was a mistake followed by his preventing his coaches from disciplining him after his ridiculous sideline behavior. Garrett was never on board and it took Stephen and Garrett convincing Jerry that Hardy was a cancer.

 

[SoupcanSam]

I love those stories. People living 500 years with no medical care, no sanitation, and worst of all no internet.

Yep. As times went, alot of those tribes ventured off and started living off modification. As their health went so did life spans.

Now we are fully modified and we'd be lucky to make it to 50!

 

[INCowboysFan]

I agree with you on the Dez timing. But with Hardy, my problem was both the timing of signing him, which was a mistake followed by his preventing his coaches from disciplining him after his ridiculous sideline behavior. Garrett was never on board and it took Stephen and Garrett convincing Jerry that Hardy was a cancer.

That may be true about Garrett not being on board. It was a one year deal and I don't think Jerry needed much convincing after that season to not re-sign him.

 

[GenoT]

What with all the “Dak’s contract” and “looking forward to seeing what Kellen Moore brings” threads, I’d forgotten the simple pleasures of a good old-fashioned “Jerry and Jason suck” offering.

Thanks, Bob!

 

[jazzcat22]

We're gonna bash you two if you keep it up.

Maybe we need a bash zone.

 

[acr731]

Maybe we need a bash zone.

I'm all for it, but they should let us use bad words there. It would make it fun.