Might Dak/WRs/Moore make Zeke expendable?

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Bear with me for a second... By no means do I think that Dak is a top 10 NFL quarterback. But I do believe that Linehan held him back and we have not seen his best yet. With a top tier OL, an ascending WR corps (with a true #1, a solid deep threat #2, and a playmaking slot, not to mention a dangerous 3rd down RB), and a new offensive coordinator who will modernize and open up the offense, what happens if Dak lights it up this year? And the downfield passing game becomes as big of a threat as the running game?

Do you then re-up Zeke $15 million+/year? Or do you franchise him a year or two and spend the long-term money on Cooper, Jaylon, B Jones, Cobb?

Don't get me wrong, Zeke is the 1st or 2nd best RB in the game. And I love how he plays in all facets of the game. But this is a new NFL that stresses passing to win. And Zeke is one more significant offseason mistake from a year long or indefinite ban. And like we've seen with Gurley, RB's have a limited shelf life.

Thoughts?
Only way i can see this team walking away from Elliot is if they can find somebody who can do everything he can do. He'd have tremendous value. But i see the team paying him. Think Byron Jones is the guy they let walk.
 

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Bear with me for a second... By no means do I think that Dak is a top 10 NFL quarterback. But I do believe that Linehan held him back and we have not seen his best yet. With a top tier OL, an ascending WR corps (with a true #1, a solid deep threat #2, and a playmaking slot, not to mention a dangerous 3rd down RB), and a new offensive coordinator who will modernize and open up the offense, what happens if Dak lights it up this year? And the downfield passing game becomes as big of a threat as the running game?

Do you then re-up Zeke $15 million+/year? Or do you franchise him a year or two and spend the long-term money on Cooper, Jaylon, B Jones, Cobb?

Don't get me wrong, Zeke is the 1st or 2nd best RB in the game. And I love how he plays in all facets of the game. But this is a new NFL that stresses passing to win. And Zeke is one more significant offseason mistake from a year long or indefinite ban. And like we've seen with Gurley, RB's have a limited shelf life.

Thoughts?
Nope....
 

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He was elite in 2014. But not as good as Zeke. He's truly elite.

Putting up #'s doesnt make you elite. You're either an elite player or you aren't

Also there really isn't levels of elite. Elite means you're amongst the top 3-5 at your position, so you're either in that grouping or you're not.
 

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And still also ended up with over 40 more carries than the next guy as well, with a much lower yards per carry average.

Last year's rushing title was the result of sheer volume and number of carries. And despite all of those carries, he scored a middling 6 rushing touchdowns.

When that offensive line wasn't at it's best making the running back, the numbers weren't all that great.
He scored only 6 td's because Dak is a touchdown Vulture
 

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Answer, YES...it could. Its up to Zeke. Does he wanna sell out in the offseason and focus only on football? Or does he want to be a mental midget? My guess is Zeke could well be playing his last year in Dallas and depending how that goes, could be traded.
Oh my . . . could you Imagine a Cowboys team with Dak receiving 33 million a year and no Zeke. . . :facepalm:. . . stranger things have happened in Jerry's World . . Garrett being an NFL head coach for this long is a prime example . . . Dak starting over Romo in 2016 playoffs is another
 

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He scored only 6 td's because Dak is a touchdown Vulture

Dak has had the same amount of rushing TDs all three years, but Zeke's lack of TDs last year is now because Dak vultures them?
:facepalm:
Want me to teach you the actual reason?

Zeke had the 6th highest % of redzone rushes for a player on any team in the league last year.
DJohnson- 74.4% with 29 attempts and 7 TDs. Cards have worse Oline
Barkley- 69.4% with 50 attempts and 7 TDs. Giants have worse Oline
JConnor- 68% with 34 attempts and 10 TDs. Steelers have even or better Oline
Mixon- 66.7% with 32 attempts and 8 TDs. Bengals have worse Oline
Gurley- 64.6% with 64 attempts and 17 TDs. Rams have better Oline

Zeke- 59.1% with 39 attempts and a measly 5 TDs

Zeke only averages 2.69 yards per attempt in RZ, 1.54 ypc within 10 yard line, and had 3 yards and 2 TDs on 10 attempts inside the 5. And this despite the endzone only stopping his yard progress 5 times compared to his peers.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

He might be pegged as a great between the tackles runner, we'll see if he is one next season.
 
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Dak has had the same amount of rushing TDs all three years, but Zeke's lack of TDs last year is now because Dak vultures them?
:facepalm:
Want me to teach you the actual reason?

Zeke had the 6th highest % of redzone rushes for a player on any team in the league last year.
DJohnson- 74.4% with 29 attempts and 7 TDs. Cards have worse Oline
Barkley- 69.4% with 50 attempts and 7 TDs. Giants have worse Oline
JConnor- 68% with 34 attempts and 10 TDs. Steelers have even or better Oline
Mixon- 66.7% with 32 attempts and 8 TDs. Bengals have worse Oline
Gurley- 64.6% with 64 attempts and 17 TDs. Rams have better Oline

Zeke- 59.1% with 39 attempts and a measly 5 TDs

Zeke only averages 2.69 yards per attempt in RZ, 1.54 ypc within 10 yard line, and had 3 yards and 2 TDs on 10 attempts inside the 5. And this despite the endzone only stopping his yard progress 5 times compared to his peers.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

He might be pegged as a great between the tackles runner, we'll see if he is one next season.
How about this stat . . . Dak can't throw into tight windows defenses know that and exploit it . . . hence Zeke has no room to run . . .having one of the worse td percentages in the Red Zone is because Dak Sucks. . .by the time 3rd down rolls around Dak basically scrambles for a TD

But you go ahead and critize Zeke's ability to rush between the tackles

:thumbdown:
 

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How about this stat . . . Dak can't throw into tight windows defenses know that and exploit it . . . hence Zeke has no room to run . . .having one of the worse td percentages in the Red Zone is because Dak Sucks. . .by the time 3rd down rolls around Dak basically scrambles for a TD

But you go ahead and critize Zeke's ability to rush between the tackles

:thumbdown:

Yeah, that's not a stat lmao. Of course you have nothing of substance to reply back with.
:facepalm: and always blame everyone but Zeke lmao


"Having one of the worst redzone % is because Dak sucks"

2017- 7th best in the league in redzone scoring %, 6 games without Zeke
2016- 5th best in the league redzone scoring %

So maybe the solution is to have Zeke suspended for 6 games and our redzone scoring will improve?

Yeah, just sit this one out kiddo. It's over.
:laugh:
 

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Bear with me for a second... By no means do I think that Dak is a top 10 NFL quarterback. But I do believe that Linehan held him back and we have not seen his best yet. With a top tier OL, an ascending WR corps (with a true #1, a solid deep threat #2, and a playmaking slot, not to mention a dangerous 3rd down RB), and a new offensive coordinator who will modernize and open up the offense, what happens if Dak lights it up this year? And the downfield passing game becomes as big of a threat as the running game?

Do you then re-up Zeke $15 million+/year? Or do you franchise him a year or two and spend the long-term money on Cooper, Jaylon, B Jones, Cobb?

Don't get me wrong, Zeke is the 1st or 2nd best RB in the game. And I love how he plays in all facets of the game. But this is a new NFL that stresses passing to win. And Zeke is one more significant offseason mistake from a year long or indefinite ban. And like we've seen with Gurley, RB's have a limited shelf life.

Thoughts?

The next emmitt smith or Barry Sanders or Tom Brady are about the only things that would make Zeke expendable...
 

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Yeah, that's not a stat lmao. Of course you have nothing of substance to reply back with.
:facepalm: and always blame everyone but Zeke lmao


"Having one of the worst redzone % is because Dak sucks"

2017- 7th best in the league in redzone scoring %, 6 games without Zeke
2016- 5th best in the league redzone scoring %

So maybe the solution is to have Zeke suspended for 6 games and our redzone scoring will improve?

Yeah, just sit this one out kiddo. It's over.
:laugh:
Of course its not a stat because stats are meaningless . . . when you watch the games, ones own eyes tell the truth. . .

Maybe if you spent more time watching the games and less time looking up "Stats" then you would know that . . .

Here's to "Dak" the King of Stats and his groupies that use them to justify him

:dance:
 

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I hate this make Zeke expendable talk :mad: the dude is a beast ( Seems like everytime we get a great player at a position people are so caught up on letting him walk for whatever reason when the time comes for him to get paid ) GIVE ME A BREAK

Yes he makes some immature decisions in his personal time - but he balls out on game day is a tank health wise!!!!

you don't let a guy of his caliber go at 2nd contract but thats just my opinion !
 

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Bear with me for a second... By no means do I think that Dak is a top 10 NFL quarterback. But I do believe that Linehan held him back and we have not seen his best yet. With a top tier OL, an ascending WR corps (with a true #1, a solid deep threat #2, and a playmaking slot, not to mention a dangerous 3rd down RB), and a new offensive coordinator who will modernize and open up the offense, what happens if Dak lights it up this year? And the downfield passing game becomes as big of a threat as the running game?

Do you then re-up Zeke $15 million+/year? Or do you franchise him a year or two and spend the long-term money on Cooper, Jaylon, B Jones, Cobb?

Don't get me wrong, Zeke is the 1st or 2nd best RB in the game. And I love how he plays in all facets of the game. But this is a new NFL that stresses passing to win. And Zeke is one more significant offseason mistake from a year long or indefinite ban. And like we've seen with Gurley, RB's have a limited shelf life.

Thoughts?
I remember this young , hot shot offensive coordinator several years back that was all the rage. He became head coach, and now people think he sucks. So you are telling me that after OTAs that you thinkMoore is now some great coach? Have you been in meeting rooms to watch his genius?

Your talking about signing COBB to a deal... this is the guy who didnt do jack playing with the best passer in the game, and you think he is gonna light it up with Dak throwing him alls because of a couple of article on dallacowboys.com? I know it is the off season and we are bored out of our minds, but lets see Moore call plays for a season..... then we can all go back to bashing his arse so we will all be in our comfort zone, because you know deep down, nobody is really happy around here unless we can blame people for the ills of the world.
 
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I remember this young , hot shot offensive coordinator several years back that was all the rage. He became head coach, and now people think he sucks. So you are telling me that after OTAs that you thinkMoore is now some great coach? Have you been in meeting rooms to watch his genius?

Your talking about signing COBB to a deal... this is the guy who didnt do jack playing with the best passer in the game, and you think he is gonna light it up with Dak throwing him alls because of a couple of article on dallacowboys.com? I know it is the off season and we are bored out of our minds, but lets see Moore call plays for a season..... then we can all go back to bashing his arse so we will all be in our comfort zone, because you know deep down, nobody is really happy around here unless we can blame people for the ills of the world.

You missed the point. Reading is fundamental.
 

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Bear with me for a second... By no means do I think that Dak is a top 10 NFL quarterback. But I do believe that Linehan held him back and we have not seen his best yet. With a top tier OL, an ascending WR corps (with a true #1, a solid deep threat #2, and a playmaking slot, not to mention a dangerous 3rd down RB), and a new offensive coordinator who will modernize and open up the offense, what happens if Dak lights it up this year? And the downfield passing game becomes as big of a threat as the running game?

Do you then re-up Zeke $15 million+/year? Or do you franchise him a year or two and spend the long-term money on Cooper, Jaylon, B Jones, Cobb?

Don't get me wrong, Zeke is the 1st or 2nd best RB in the game. And I love how he plays in all facets of the game. But this is a new NFL that stresses passing to win. And Zeke is one more significant offseason mistake from a year long or indefinite ban. And like we've seen with Gurley, RB's have a limited shelf life.

Thoughts?
The threat of Zeke opens up the passing game so hell no.
 
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