Dak-Deniers/Fact Haters, What Will Dak Have to Do for You to Eat Crow?

[CouchCoach]

Expectations for what?

My expectations for a Cowboys QB and the Cowboys team in general is compete for SBs. That's my expectation. Getting to the divisional round and getting beat isn't exceeding expectations at all in my book.

This franchise has failed to meet or exceed expectations for pretty much most of the last two decades.

What are "expectations" based on? I see this phrase used a lot "you are just lowering your expectations based on results".

Would you agree that too many expectations are entitlement ones based on history? How does past success affect present expectations?

The problem is when one blames the team or someone else for expectations not met, who is really to blame? You've admitted your expectations are for them to compete for SBs and I say that is unrealistic and the fault lies in the expectations.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Let's talk about Prescott deep ball anybody can put the ball up put air under it and let the wide receiver get it. Prescott throws the ball on a dime on the money. That's way harder than putting it up for grabs. So I disagree about his deep ball

He's missed a bunch of deep balls and is far from elite in that area. It's a weakness. Sometimes he hits it, but very often he doesn't. It's something he needs to improve on. If he does, it will offer him the ability to burn defenses who stack against the run. It would make him killer. Let's hope he can get better there. He has the great work ethic and attitude to focus on a weak spot and get better. He may very well get improve greatly there.

 

[starfan1]

I am not a fan of Mahomes. Patriots gave us the blueprint. He gets flustered up the middle

sure he does I haven't seen a QB yet that isn't frustrated by that even the GOAT himself gets flustered by middle pressure

 

[Whirlwin]

You keep saying the Patriots gave the blueprint but a quick look of the box score shows that while he had some accuracy issues, he had a QB rating of 117 that game, a QBR of like 75, three TDs to no interceptions and threw for nearly 300 yards. Listening to you, you'd think he was flat out terrible in that game, when in fact, he was not. He was actually pretty good.

He was flat-out horrible in that game until late in the fourth quarter. What game were you watching. And Jared Goff was even worse.

 

[Whirlwin]

sure he does I haven't seen a QB yet that isn't frustrated by that even the GOAT himself gets flustered by middle pressure

I seen quarterback stay in there and take the hit in and complete the past. Mahomes kept running for his life play putting the ball up for grabs. I can't wait to see this season

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Let's talk about Prescott deep ball anybody can put the ball up put air under it and let the wide receiver get it. Prescott throws the ball on a dime on the money. That's way harder than putting it up for grabs. So I disagree about his deep ball

 

[Whirlwin]

That's how Prescott throws the Deep ball. Haven't you been paying attention. He doesn't put air under it maybe you should stop it Pittsburgh Steelers the perfect throw to Dez Bryant people don't even realize how their quarterback throws the long ball

 

[Sydla]

What are "expectations" based on? I see this phrase used a lot "you are just lowering your expectations based on results".

Would you agree that too many expectations are entitlement ones based on history? How does past success affect present expectations?

The problem is when one blames the team or someone else for expectations not met, who is really to blame? You've admitted your expectations are for them to compete for SBs and I say that is unrealistic and the fault lies in the expectations.

You can't sit here and try to convince yourself that the Cowboys are one of the truly great franchises in the NFL and NFL history and then have lowered expectations for what you think would be successful season. That makes zero sense.

Of course history sets the expectations for current and future teams. If you fancy your franchise as one of the true elite franchises in the league, like many here do, you can't then start claiming just making the playoffs and stuff like that as being great accomplishments for the team. Especially since 2000, you have only made the playoffs 7 times.

I mean we are talking about a franchise that hasn't competed for a SB in over 20 seasons and hasn't even played in a conference champ game since the mid to late 90s. I don't think it's unrealistic for a franchise, that I have no doubt you think is one of the best in the league, to have made a SB or two or maybe even three in the last 22-23 years. How anyone finds that unrealistic is bizarre to me. But I suspect, again, it's the drunken dad theory. People just struggle to admit the flaws and failures of something they love.

 

[starfan1]

You keep saying the Patriots gave the blueprint but a quick look of the box score shows that while he had some accuracy issues, he had a QB rating of 117 that game, a QBR of like 75, three TDs to no interceptions and threw for nearly 300 yards. Listening to you, you'd think he was flat out terrible in that game, when in fact, he was not. He was actually pretty good.

The Chiefs lost that game not because of Mahomes but because the Chiefs defense gave up 530 yards of offense and mustered like 12 yards rushing total for the game.

This post right here sounds so familiar. Insert Prescott name and 2016 and 2018 playoff games and while stats say one thing I have it on good authority in here that stats lie. If you dont win youre not cluch and if you fall behind early and have to throw alot you suck.

by the way I agree with you the Pats didnt win because of Mahomes shortcomings thats why its a team game

 

[percyhoward]

How do you figure?

Take ALEX Yards for instance. Its 3rd and 8 and Dak completes a pass for 6 yards. We do not get the first down and punt the ball away. But Dak's normal stats of completion percentage goes up because he completed the pass.

After the trade for Cooper, this offense ranked 7th in percentage of drives that reached the red zone, and had the 7th-fewest punts. It was also 9th in 3rd-down conversion rate by pass, meaning that 6-yard throw on 3rd and 8 had at least 3 yards after the catch more often than not. In other words, this offense moved the chains. The problem was the red zone.

Even after the trade, the offense ranked 29th in red zone TD percentage, after ranking 5th and 7th the previous two seasons with Prescott.

 

[Whirlwin]

This post right here sounds so familiar. Insert Prescott name and 2016 and 2018 and while stats say one thing I have it on good authority in here that stats lie. If you dont win youre not cluch and if you fall behind early and have to throw alot you suck.

by the way I agree with you the Pats didnt win because of Mahomes shortcomings thats why its a team game

I don't care why the Chiefs lost that game. The only point I was trying to make is how flustered the quarterback was when he got pressured up the middle. He's human lol

 

[Diehardblues]

What are "expectations" based on? I see this phrase used a lot "you are just lowering your expectations based on results".

Would you agree that too many expectations are entitlement ones based on history? How does past success affect present expectations?

The problem is when one blames the team or someone else for expectations not met, who is really to blame? You've admitted your expectations are for them to compete for SBs and I say that is unrealistic and the fault lies in the expectations.

Yep

The only time I’ve had Super Bowl expectations is when we’d actually played in Super Bowls.

Setting them as a team goal is one thing. Expectations is quite another.

 

[Whirlwin]

After the trade for Cooper, this offense ranked 7th in percentage of drives that reached the red zone, and had the 7th-fewest punts. It was also 9th in 3rd-down conversion rate by pass, meaning that 6-yard throw on 3rd and 8 had at least 3 yards after the catch more often than not. In other words, this offense moved the chains. The problem was the red zone.

Even after the trade, the offense ranked 29th in red zone TD percentage, after ranking 5th and 7th the previous two seasons with Prescott.

Elliott took himself out of the game way too often for my liking but I understand why turn it by time we go to the Red Zone he was gassed and we didn't have an answer. Dak Prescott threw Jason Witten his first-ever playoff touchdown pass. Now I know Jason's not huge for touchdowns but I think he's going to be a difference-maker this season in that area. I'm hoping they put the ball and Prescott's hands more also rather than just trying to play ball control keep the young defense off the field and not overexpose them. Appreciate that someone understands what's happening out there and not just blame the quarterback

 

[Whirlwin]

Everybody knows you have zero Integrity when it comes to Prescott it didn't take long to figure that out. So

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Everybody knows you have zero Integrity when it comes to Prescott it didn't take long to figure that out. So

Dak is the BEST QB ever ......do I have integrity now?

Micheal said it already be well man....

 

[Whirlwin]

Dak is the BEST QB ever ......do I have integrity now?

Micheal said it already be well man....

No now I can just call you a liar. LOL sarcasm

 

[Diehardblues]

You can't sit here and try to convince yourself that the Cowboys are one of the truly great franchises in the NFL and NFL history and then have lowered expectations for what you think would be successful season. That makes zero sense.

Of course history sets the expectations for current and future teams. If you fancy your franchise as one of the true elite franchises in the league, like many here do, you can't then start claiming just making the playoffs and stuff like that as being great accomplishments for the team. Especially since 2000, you have only made the playoffs 7 times.

I mean we are talking about a franchise that hasn't competed for a SB in over 20 seasons and hasn't even played in a conference champ game since the mid to late 90s.

Our history doesn’t reflect our current trends which is where true expectations are perceived from.

Expecting our current team to reach Super Bowls due to former teams from 25-40 years ago is unfounded .

We were one of the elite football franchises. The Bar has been lowered. We certainly can’t consider ourselves one of the elite franchises this era despite our popularity and monetary success.

 

[Whirlwin]

Dak is the BEST QB ever ......do I have integrity now?

Micheal said it already be well man....

I understand exactly where this quarterback needs to improve and it's the little things. Go Cowboys. You people make it sound like he's garbage and shouldn't even be in the NFL. And that's just ludachrist

 

[Whirlwin]

Our history doesn’t reflect our current trends which is where true expectations are perceived from.

Expecting our current team to reach Super Bowls due to former teams from 25-40 years ago is unfounded .

We were one of the elite football franchises. The Bar has been lowered. We certainly can’t consider ourselves one of the elite franchises this era despite our popularity and monetary success.

I no longer have those expectations of failure. This is not the same old Cowboys. When you've been paying attention and living this game following this franchise it's obvious. The future is bright

 

[Diehardblues]

I understand exactly where this quarterback needs to improve and it's the little things. Go Cowboys. You people make it sound like he's garbage and shouldn't even be in the NFL. And that's just ludachrist

There’s always extremes but most are more in the middle.