Dak-Deniers/Fact Haters, What Will Dak Have to Do for You to Eat Crow?

[Diehardblues]

dak gets his endorsements because of his good play, no other reason. not sure what your over compensating sentence means. dak will be paid in proportion to his performance. nothing more, nothing less.

His endorsements have been provided from his popularity as well. Unless you think his 2nd best selling jersey in NFL is also more of a reflection of his performance .

“over compensating “ was in response to your comment about whether we compensate him for under paying initially.

 

[Diehardblues]

The thinking that the QB has to have that RB is where this goes hazy. Would he be as good a QB with another good RB1? It's not about needing Elliott, it's about needing a good RB.

He will be paid what it costs to retain a QB1 and was Aikman as effective without Irvin or Novacek? He even suffered without Stepnowski.

This whole "level of talent in the supporting cast" has to be better for Prescott isn't just him. Starr, Bradshaw, Montana, Elway, Staubach and Aikman all needed a strong supporting cast. This illusion of a QB "carrying the team" is all it is. E Manning and Flacco are up on Brees and Rodgers in rings, 2-1 each.

On one hand posters defend Romo for the lack of supporting cast and then spear Prescott for having it.

I have said this and will stick by it, with the right kind of team, Prescott can get it done, warts, dirt throws and all......with the right team around him. If Brady hadn't had the right team around him, he might be Marino.

Of course , they all need the supporting cast. But it’s what they do with it that separates the great ones.

If this the most Elite talent we can expect to surround Prescott with then the Window is closing fast.

 

[Sydla]

Yes, there were, either, or both, his GM or HC were not sold on him and that does not seem to be the case in Dallas.

What is it posters don't get? They are not going to pay him elite money, they are going to pay what they have to in order to keep him. Do we think they would be talking about what they're considering after the season ended? This has jumped almost 10M in just that amount of time and every team with a QB in his 1st contract is concerned where this is headed and not just the Chiefs. This has gone from 25M is crazy money to 34M might be the number.

And consider the everyday Cowboys fan, not the ones that come here and dissect everything like we're making money at it. The man has won the East 2 of the last 3 seasons and every time he scores, he points to the sky and even casual fans know who he's signaling. He's given himself up on several occasions to make the play, he doesn't throw a lot of interceptions and most of all, he's well spoken and even when asked a controversial question such as the anthem issue, handled himself very well. He is one of the best QB leaders in the game and has been since he took over.

I don't think we realize the spot the Joneses are in with a very popular player. What if they were to let him walk and get another and he flames out? What did they have and let go? The fact is Dak Prescott has made it extremely hard for them not to re-sign him.

The one thing we can hope for is that this is going to level the playing field and all the teams will be paying exorbitant process for QBs as that's the price to play.

Sydla, I am not nearly as concerned about what they give the QB, as I see that as the coming norm, as I am what they give the RB and who has to walk because of that? They can stand one top 5 salary but this team is approaching top 5's at DE, already there, WR and RB. I see a 30M+ QB as a necessity, a 15M RB? No way.

34MM is elite QB money right now.

The Cowboys should absolutely positively not pay Dak that.

A 30MM QB shouldn’t need a 15-17MM TB. But it seems the prevailing theory here is we need Elliott back too.

I ask the Prescott supporters, why?

 

[Diehardblues]

34MM is elite QB money right now.

The Cowboys should absolutely positively not pay Dak that.

A 30MM QB shouldn’t need a 15-17MM TB. But it seems the prevailing theory here is we need Elliott back too.

I ask the Prescott supporters, why?

We need at least something similar to Elliott and Cooper. We’ve seen what we are without their level of talent. And without our Pro Bowl laden OL. Basically a very poor offensive team hovering around .500.

And If that’s what we had would we still be All In on Dak?

I understand we need to have a QB but overpaying him could be crucial. I want to think our FO realizes this and why they haven’t signed him yet. We’ll see..

 

[Sydla]

We need at least something similar to Elliott and Cooper. We’ve seen what we are without their level of talent. And without our Pro Bowl laden OL. Basically a very poor offensive team hovering around .500.

And If that’s what we had would we still be All In on Dak?

I understand we need to have a QB but overpaying him could be crucial. I want to think our FO realizes this and why they haven’t signed him yet. We’ll see..

In reality, we probably do need an elite-ish TB to go with Dak. But that should tell you something about where Dak ranks in the pecking order of QBs and what his true worth really is.

The flipside of that is that it's easier to find a TB than a QB, thus the real conundrum the Cowboys find themselves in.

 

[Sydla]

An oddly enough here's an article from BtB where Dan Graziano thinks the Cowboys will just ride Elliott under his existing deal and then likely tag him as the cost of TBs will likely stay low relative to other positions.

Can't disagree with the logic.

 

[Big D]

so heres what the question actually was

What would he (DAK) have to do to make you happy?
after 23 pages of replies from those who actually address it heres what we’ve got:

Win the Superbowl

• - HoplessCowboysFan36
• - big dog cowboy
• - Rayman70
• - bodi
• - dogunwo
• win 3 SB's in a row, 2 isnt enough ! - DandyDon52
• Win a title, nothing else matters. - Section446
• Well for me the chump needs to win a SB. - SoupcanSam

Win the NFC Title Game

NFC title game appearance or a road playoff win. - Red Dragon

- NumOneQB



Put the team on his back and win a game

There's pretty much nothing Dak can do as he doesn't have the God given Talent to carry a team on his shoulders - PAPPYDOG

I’d say put the team on his back and win a couple of games. I can’t think of a game when the defense laid an egg and Dak just won a shoot out. - anava

Have the defense give up 30 points a game, thus putting the game on Prescott shoulders having to throw to catch up and win. - 12+88=7

If Zeke goes down for the season early, and Dak wins 12+ games while continuing to match his currently impeccable QBR, I'll have no problem eating crow. - Aerolithe_Lion



Improve overall play

It would be nice if he learned to sometimes throw it away instead of taking a sack. - DeathMonkey

He would simply need to play better. Get better with his pocket awareness. Improve his pocket movement and mechanics in general. Stop being so gunshy. Drastically improve his anticipation/spatial awareness. Improve his accuracy. - Kevinicus

He has to be more consistent in hitting the open man, getting the ball out quicker and more accurate. - mrmojo

Be more consistent, show more accuracy, show a better ability to scan the field, show more of an ability to make the tougher throws, be a little more daring, improve his deep ball, and be more of a play maker with his legs, and throwing guys open. - Frozen700

What would change my mind is if he cleans up the issues that I see on film. Primarily footwork, accuracy, and read anticipation. - ClintDagger

stop leading the league in sacks and fumbles, complete passes in coverage, stop looking for the receiver to be open and make the throw so he is. , I swear if you spin one more time with a clean pocket into a defender I'm going to...idk - InTheZone

My biggest problem with Prescott is his intermediate throw. Over the linebacker before the corner. - Whirlwin

stop throwing off his damn back foot. - Darthkuriboh

Get the ball out faster in the red zone... convert 2/3rds at least half any way, of those field goals into TDs - exciter

improve his redzone game - Pass2Run


Time

Only time. - JoeKing


Most just want to see him improve his play which I think we all can agree on. It’s interesting that most of Daks vocal opponents did not actually answer the question.

 

[CouchCoach]

34MM is elite QB money right now.

The Cowboys should absolutely positively not pay Dak that.

A 30MM QB shouldn’t need a 15-17MM TB. But it seems the prevailing theory here is we need Elliott back too.

I ask the Prescott supporters, why?

I am not really a supporter, more of one accepting what's going to happen and trying to make that work in my head. 30M QB, 17M WR, 15M RB, 21M DE plus the OL and LBs coming up and this team better be drop dead at drafting and have damned near perfect health.

I don't like to keep using him as an example but who else has proven they get it? Belichick let a DE walk that was close to the same level as Lawrence because he knows what paying him would do to his formula. He's got two good 1st contract RB's, one a rookie. He would never consider putting himself where the Cowboys are going to be because he's not about stars, he's about team.

The Cowboys are hellbent to get back to too much to too few and they'd better win it all while that window is open.

 

[Diehardblues]

In reality, we probably do need an elite-ish TB to go with Dak. But that should tell you something about where Dak ranks in the pecking order of QBs and what his true worth really is.

The flipside of that is that it's easier to find a TB than a QB, thus the real conundrum the Cowboys find themselves in.

Yep..Let’s hope our ownership realizes this.

 

[Diehardblues]

I am not really a supporter, more of one accepting what's going to happen and trying to make that work in my head. 30M QB, 17M WR, 15M RB, 21M DE plus the OL and LBs coming up and this team better be drop dead at drafting and have damned near perfect health.

I don't like to keep using him as an example but who else has proven they get it? Belichick let a DE walk that was close to the same level as Lawrence because he knows what paying him would do to his formula. He's got two good 1st contract RB's, one a rookie. He would never consider putting himself where the Cowboys are going to be because he's not about stars, he's about team.

The Cowboys are hellbent to get back to too much to too few and they'd better win it all while that window is open.

Yep .. that window won’t be open long without that Elite type QB once you pay near Elite money.

Belichicks ways have only worked because of Brady. It wouldn’t have worked as well with a QB like Dak.

 

[Floatyworm]

There are no Dak haters here. I'm sure EVERYONE thinks he's a swell dude.
. Your problem isn't so called Dak haters. It's you can't handle valad criticism.

I love you...

That pretty much sums up Dak supporters in a nutshell.

 

[Diehardblues]

Elite paid QB’s must elevate lesser talent around them.

 

[Hadenough]

Elite paid QB’s must elevate lesser talent around them.

The talent on this team elevates Dak and it will all come to an end if Dak gets over paid.

 

[Diehardblues]

The talent on this team elevates Dak and it will all come to an end if Dak gets over paid.

It’s certainly going to be more challenging especially with our FO and coaching staff.

We need to win it before we have to pay Zeke or let him go.

We knew back in 2016 our window wouldn’t be open long with both of them. The future is now.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

34MM is elite QB money right now.

The Cowboys should absolutely positively not pay Dak that.

A 30MM QB shouldn’t need a 15-17MM TB. But it seems the prevailing theory here is we need Elliott back too.

I ask the Prescott supporters, why?

Because our 30MM QB doesn't need a 15-17MM TB. The ones claiming that are wrong.

 

[Sydla]

Because our 30MM QB doesn't need a 15-17MM TB. The ones claiming that are wrong.

So then you are OK with letting Elliott walk with no long term deal?

 

[Diehardblues]

Because our 30MM QB doesn't need a 15-17MM TB. The ones claiming that are wrong.

Right.. we’ll just need to draft another one with similar ability.

 

[Diehardblues]

So then you are OK with letting Elliott walk with no long term deal?

All we need to do is continue drafting well around Prescott to maintain Elite supporting cast. That’s easier than drafting an Elite QB. Lol

Cause we know what we have with Dak in fear of not finding anyone else as good.

Apparently these fans have confidence we can draft well at about every position except QB.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

So then you are OK with letting Elliott walk with no long term deal?

100% if it's over $12M mark, which it will be
We've seen what the team can do without Zeke, as long as Tyron isn't swapped out for Chaz Green.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Right.. we’ll just need to draft another one with similar ability.

I don't think Alfred Morris is of similiar ability to Zeke. So no, we would not need a replacement with similiar ability at all.