Media Rumors about Cowboys are not Fact

[G2]

Did anyone dismiss it?

 

[Melonfeud]

Wasn't there rumors back around the playoffs/shortly after he could holdout this offseason?

Ya,as I faintly recollect, this narrative (of speculative conjecture) has been weakly pushed in a lame& squeaky voiced fashion ,somewhat akin to that voice of dude in the black&white original movie of "the fly" towards the ending

 

[Sydla]

Did anyone dismiss it?

I haven't looked closely myself but in the threads here, no one has seemingly linked to quotes or comment from Zeke, his agent or anyone close to Elliott that strongly denies the allegations made in a variety of national articles. In fairness, I could have missed them.

But if there has been no push back (and isn't one as these stories churn), it can't be a great sign. But again, maybe Zeke and his camp just want the threat out there and they have no intention of actually not showing up for camp by the date they need to in order to accrue a season.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Please quit believing and repeating rumors that have no supporting evidence.

The National Media loves to attach the Cowboys to stories as click-bait.

The fact that other media jump on the same rumor to discuss it, does NOT make the rumor valid.

The internet and social media can make it appear that a rumor has multiple sources confirming it;
however, most often a rumor has 1 source and many people just repeat it including other media.

There are many sports websites that literally just repeat news from other sources.

Sometimes they give credit to the original source but often they don't.

We've seen many times that a National Media source has an article "Calvin Hill of the Fort Worth Star Telegram reports..."

Often it was just an Opinion by Calving Hill but they present it as if it's fact.


If Zeke is really going to hold-out, somebody in the local DFW media will find out and comment about it. At that point it might be worth discussing; however, the National Media reports literally mean nothing.

The local reporters need to maintain a level of professionalism because they must have some amount of access to the local teams they cover in order to do their jobs.

The National Media often has no downside to telling completely fabricated stories.

Welcome to the off season. Training camp starts soon.

 

[Future]

Zeke's camp probably leaked it just to put the bug into the Jones' ear and get it out there. It's doubtful that he'd actually hold out and the media has really only said that he'd "consider" it, not that he was going to actually hold out.

 

[xwalker]

National media rumors are true way more often than you’re giving them credit for. The ‘sources’ these guys have that local people don’t are the agents of the players. I guarantee that’s Adam Shefter’s entire Rolodex, how he gets the info on these contracts seemingly before the nfl itself does.

On top of that, if this was blatantly false, Zeke’s agent would have squashed it IMMEDIATELY. His reputation is on the line with every single article written about Zeke’s contract. They’ve been quiet because whatever they want to say is already out there.

The agent does not benefit from "squashing" the rumor.

That does not make it true.


You probably don't know much about the local Dallas media if you don't live here

The local sports radio stations each are each owned by companies that have stations across the country.

The people they interview that they know personally is an impressive list.

They've had many agents on air and the 105.3 guys in particular go out of their way to treat those types of people with respect even when asking them difficult questions.

Sports and Sports Media is a big time business in Dallas. Some of the Radio Hosts make big money. More than many "National" media people from my understanding.

The Dallas area Sports Talk Radio stations do NOT operate like tabloid media the way the Philly stations operate with knuckleheads like Howard Eskin.


Back when he covered the draft local reporter Rick Gosselin knew all of the GMs and owners. He probably got treated with respect because he is on the Hall of Fame voting committee.

 

[xwalker]

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I always look forwards to your posts.

You have a talent for prose that I envy.

 

[xwalker]

I'm pretty sure fish has agreed that an Elliott hold out is possible

Unfortunately Fish went tabloid after he purchased that website.

Prior to that he had good info most of the time. Now he generates headlines and for 9.99 per month will tell you more...

 

[Diehardblues]

Rumors are rumors. Who cares?
Why is it so necessary to shoot them down?

Everyone’s entirely too sensitive . This is the age of Fake News . Surely everyone has the ability to draw their own suspicions, opinions and conclusions.

 

[xwalker]

I haven't looked closely myself but in the threads here, no one has seemingly linked to quotes or comment from Zeke, his agent or anyone close to Elliott that strongly denies the allegations made in a variety of national articles. In fairness, I could have missed them.

But if there has been no push back (and isn't one as these stories churn), it can't be a great sign. But again, maybe Zeke and his camp just want the threat out there and they have no intention of actually not showing up for camp by the date they need to in order to accrue a season.

Did anyone dismiss it?

Who could do that?

It does not hurt the agent. It helps him if anything.

The team can't speak for Zeke.

Zeke won't be in front of cameras/microphones until training camp.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

The agent does not benefit from "squashing" the rumor.

That does not make it true.


You probably don't know much about the local Dallas media if you don't live here

The local sports radio stations each are each owned by companies that have stations across the country.

The people they interview that they know personally is an impressive list.

They've had many agents on air and the 105.3 guys in particular go out of their way to treat those types of people with respect even when asking them difficult questions.

Sports and Sports Media is a big time business in Dallas. Some of the Radio Hosts make big money. More than many "National" media people from my understanding.

The Dallas area Sports Talk Radio stations do NOT operate like tabloid media the way the Philly stations operate with knuckleheads like Howard Eskin.


Back when he covered the draft local reporter Rick Gosselin knew all of the GMs and owners. He probably got treated with respect because he is on the Hall of Fame voting committee.

Why wasn’t it Dallas local media that got the Ezekiel Elliot shoving video scoop? Why didn’t they have the DLawrence contract numbers first? Why didn’t they report David Irving was quitting football before anyone else?

I have no doubt Dallas local media has great sources. They live Cowboys stuff everyday, subtle facts no national guy could possibly know. But ESPN/Fox Sports/even PFT have better sources, superior scooping potential, even with the Cowboys. We can talk about one time a Dallas station got the scoop, and then the next 10 times they didn’t.

One thing Dallas local media isn’t doing is refuting this through sources. Shouldn’t they be if it’s untrue?

 

[Rockport]

Sports media has been taken over by the same philosophy as 98% of the rest of the media
Create a false narrative and report on it as fact.

Actually only about 10% of the media.

 

[OmerV]

Nice thread. The media knows that fans/readers/listeners are eager to latch onto any story that fits with or promotes their personal beliefs, and that many fans won't bother with trying to understand if there is any foundation for the story. It is a formula that works for the media, and will continue to work as long as fans/readers/listeners are willing to accept what suits them without questioning it.

The thing I find funny is that fans are quick to recognize baseless or false media reports when the story is contrary to what they want to believe, but they seem utterly unable to recognize the same thing when the story supports what they want to believe.

 

[Diehardblues]

Nice thread. The media knows that fans/readers/listeners are eager to latch onto any story that fits with or promotes their personal beliefs, and that many fans won't bother with trying to understand if there is any foundation for the story. It is a formula that works for the media, and will continue to work as long as fans/readers/listeners are willing to accept what suits them without questioning it.

The thing I find funny is that fans are quick to recognize baseless or false media reports when the story is contrary to what they want to believe, but they seem utterly unable to recognize the same thing when the story supports what they want to believe.

This^^^^^^

 

[Diehardblues]

If we only want the facts then we really have no business on Social Media. We should just follow the ticker tape at the bottom of the screen on news and sports channels or AP wire.

The rest is all opinions and narratives spun from interpretations of the facts and events.

Amazing how some want to dispute anything that doesn’t align with their beliefs or view.

 

[OmerV]

If we only want the facts then we really have no business on Social Media. We should just follow the ticker tape at the bottom of the screen on news and sports channels.

The rest is all opinions and narratives spun from interpretations of the facts and events.

Amazing how some want to dispute anything that doesn’t align with their beliefs.

The key is simply recognizing the difference between fact and opinion and rumor and even pure speculation. And, of course, recognizing media sensationalism. We've all seen stories thrown out by the media to drawn in the public that never grew any legs and just died out. The media doesn't care because it served their purpose of sucking in the public.

 

[Melonfeud]

I always look forwards to your posts.

You have a talent for prose that I envy.

Thanks

 

[Diehardblues]

The key is simply recognizing the difference between fact and opinion and rumor and even pure speculation. And, of course, recognizing media sensationalism. We've all seen stories thrown out by the media to drawn in the public that never grew any legs and just died out. The media doesn't care because it served their purpose of sucking in the public.

Yep, basically since we went to a 24/7 news service with ESPN and CNN it’s become this. In the old days if you wanted to seek out opinions you had to read books, newspapers and magazines or listen to the radio. Or the analysts broadcasting games.

I recall when we didn’t even have color commentators just the play by play announcer. MNF basically changed the scope of broadcasting sports with personalities and analysis.

 

[Diehardblues]

It was pretty boring back in the day when all we had was facts and stats. It would be like watching a game without anyone commenting or expressing their view from the events of the game.

How often have we seen or heard fans who saw the exact same play argue over whether it was a catch or interference despite the official call. That is in effect disputing the fact or stat.

This entire notion that facts and or stats is the final word or clearly defines the event is silly. Now numbers can’t be denied but how we arrived at that number can be.

It’s much like we can’t deny the Icebergs are melting but we can argue the cause, effects and solutions.

 

[G2]

Who could do that?

It does not hurt the agent. It helps him if anything.

The team can't speak for Zeke.

Zeke won't be in front of cameras/microphones until training camp.

Elliott himself. There's no talk from the staff about contract extension with regard to Elliott, unlike Prescott. So, if he's not planning to hold out like the rumors suggest, then I would simply state that it's not true if it's not. Pretty easy. And if he chooses to remain silent and holds out, I lose a little respect for him.