Pay Dak/lose player or pay the others and Franchise Dak

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How can you be so sure. Why because he hasn't been given the opportunity or snaps.

This team elevates Dak and he's still middle of the pack.

You think that starting Hurns, Twill, Beasley, Zeke who isnt a great pass catching back, and Hanna at the beginning of the season is elevating Dak?
Are you serious?
 

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Just to add.........Romo made the wrs better. Remember Laurent Robinson? Miles Austin? These guys were nobodies without Romo. Dak does NOT make the players around him better. Thats the stick by which you measure a QB and the reason we are fools paying him. He barely made it out of the wildcard round surrounded by pro bowl talent. What's he going to do with lesser talent?

Just to add.... Cooper was averaging 47 yards a game before being traded here. Dak got that up to 80 almost doubling.

Also Beasley was a nobody before Dak came along.

So just to add... this is a complete lie that has absolutely no backing.
 

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You people do realize that the Cowboys for the last 3 seasons have still allocated a huge portion of their salary cap to the QB position right? You people do realize that Romo's salary didn't just disappear after the 2015 season, right?

Dak has ALREADY PROVEN he can win on a team with a large QB contract. This difference is now...and deservedly so...HE would be the one actually getting said salary.
The Cowboys allocated roughly 10MM to the qb position last year. That is hardly a huge number. And a number that would be dwarfed by Dak's coming number.
 

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Looked at the Rostor and there isn't a player named Ezekiel Elliott on the team in 2015. So there's that

Look on that roster and it doesn't matter. Zeke makes very little difference.

Randle and McFadden were more wffecicent in 2015 than Zeke was last year and had 90% of Zeke's production.

But yeah, let's act like 2015 doesnt show how much Dak is worth.
 

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How can you be so sure. Why because he hasn't been given the opportunity or snaps.

This team elevates Dak and he's still middle of the pack.
Have you seen White play..... Dude is terrible in the pocket. We would be lucky to win one game with White at QB.

The team elevates Dak and Dak elevates the team. Without Dak this team would be terrible and picking top 5 in the draft. Stop being delusional and open your eyes.
 

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The problem with not making time to understand the financial aspect of the NFL, and our beloved special Olympics champions Cowboys, then listening to shows or radio, is that a lot of their musings have turned into content that isn't really accurate because they need to fill time AND get listeners. Rambling about half-truths that concern the Cowboys is always a safe bet. Sometimes this is intentional, sometimes it isn't, because a lot of these guys don't really do any of their own legwork.

We don't have to lose anyone. Projected cap with rollover next year is $100million. Maybe a bit more. Zeke is up in 2 years, Jaylon is a RFA next year who will be slapped with a 1st round tender probably. Cooper will be paid I reckon. I'm guessing Dak too. Byron is basically up to whether Awuzie progresses or not, and if any depth steps up. Byron could be tagged. Or if Awuzie doesn't quite make the leap and Byron plays up a notch, we'll probably tag/sign Byron with the intention of letting Awuzie go to FA in two years. It's always a solid plan to pay a #1 CB if they can cover on an island, Belichek basically handles his defense this way. He'll always have a #1 CB. Not saying Byron becomes that, simply making a statement on paying him if he does.

Crawford is another 8mill next year, and re-negotiating Hurns would open up a few mill to rollover. So, $110mill possible and you don't even need a single contract restructure, which we could use on Martin or something since he's a safe bet and open up another 8-10mill. And the only contracts needed next year are essentially Dak, Cooper, and whatever we do with Byron.

I'd think it'd be prudent to get every player we want to keep under contract before the new CBA. I have a feeling we're going to see contract figures go up after that. But, we can literally sign every one of these guys without breaking a sweat.

I should have a Cowboys site and have titles like, "SHOCKING facts the MEDIA doesnt want you to know, click here" that just explains our cap figures.
 

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If the team can elevate Mediocre Dak to 32 million why would we not win with White.

Are you saying this team is not talented
This team wouldn't win with White. They couldn't win with Cassell, Weeden or Sanchez who all have won games in this league. White still needs a ton of developing before playing against starters in this league.
 

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Looked at the Rostor and there isn't a player named Ezekiel Elliott on the team in 2015. So there's that
So you think Zeke would account for 12 more wins on that 15 roster? They won 1 game without Romo. The running game averaged 5 yards a carry that year, you have to have a QB win in this league. You are delusional if you think that 15 team wins 13 games with Zeke only being added
 

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This team wouldn't win with White. They couldn't win with Cassell, Weeden or Sanchez who all have won games in this league. White still needs a ton of developing before playing against starters in this league.
Sounds like a perfect description of Dak before 2016. Sometimes you have to wonder if Dak slobberers are doing an advanced form of trolling by pretending to be stupid, because nobody should rightfully be that stupid.
 

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Have you seen White play..... Dude is terrible in the pocket. We would be lucky to win one game with White at QB.

The team elevates Dak and Dak elevates the team. Without Dak this team would be terrible and picking top 5 in the draft. Stop being delusional and open your eyes.
So you are telling me Mike can't hand off and dink and dunk. Sure buddy. . . if he's as able to throw the back shoulder that's 350 more yards for Zeke easy. Can't Jam the Line. Did you watch the Tennessee game. Showed how to beat us by stopping Amari
 

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This team wouldn't win with White. They couldn't win with Cassell, Weeden or Sanchez who all have won games in this league. White still needs a ton of developing before playing against starters in this league.
None of those QB's you mentioned played with Zeke. . . So what's your point
 

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So you think Zeke would account for 12 more wins on that 15 roster? They won 1 game without Romo. The running game averaged 5 yards a carry that year, you have to have a QB win in this league. You are delusional if you think that 15 team wins 13 games with Zeke only being added
No I think we only win now because of Zeke.
 

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He's LOST us more games than he's won us. Forget the overall team record, the team is built on rushing and defense but largely by necessity due to the limitations at QB.

I'd say he WON us the Eagles home game and Pittsburgh road game his rookie year and the meaningless Giants road game at the end of last year. Name any more? The rest are all on the running game and defense.

He tried his darn best to lose the Saints home game last year but the defense wouldn't let him.
Well, that's insane. Yes, Dak tried to lose the Saints game by going 24-28-249-1-0; the offensive problems had nothing to do with a 26-73 non-Dak rushing performance and Cooper's fumble.

And he didn't win the second Eagles game this year despite his 3 TD passe in the 4th quarter and overtime because, well, because something or other I'm sure.
 

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Well, that's insane. Yes, Dak tried to lose the Saints game by going 24-28-249-1-0; the offensive problems had nothing to do with a 26-73 non-Dak rushing performance and Cooper's fumble.

And he didn't win the second Eagles game this year despite his 3 TD passe in the 4th quarter and overtime because, well, because something or other I'm sure.
The Eagles game was all Cooper. The Saints game; how many sacks did he take, plus you have to count all turnovers not just interceptions. A good QB (Brady for example) doesn't take many sacks despite an average at best offensive line.
 

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The Eagles game was all Cooper. The Saints game; how many sacks did he take, plus you have to count all turnovers not just interceptions. A good QB (Brady for example) doesn't take many sacks despite an average at best offensive line.
Dak dropped some dimes to Cooper that game. Not sure what you're watching.
 
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