News: Ezekiel Elliot Mysteriously Absent for Friday Camp Conditioning Test

[BourbonBalz]

Did Emmitt play in the first 2 games of 1993?

Nope. 0-2

That's a hold out.

Also, he got paid.

For the umpteenth time, Emmitt was NOT under contract for those first two games. That’s not a holdout. You can call it that if you want to, but he wasn’t holding out.

 

[DuncanIso]

No idea. If I had to guess, I think he’ll get a new contract before the season starts. I think that’s the wrong move for the Cowboys since he has two years left in his contract. If he wanted to holdout this time next year, I’d be much more in his corner. Giving him s new contract with two years left sets a very bad precedent for future players. We have several key players on the last year of their contract and they need to be first.

Zeke only due 3.8 mill in base for 2019.

He's stupid to play for that.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Did Emmitt play in the first 2 games of 1993?

Nope. 0-2

That's a hold out.

Also, he got paid.

And believe me after that 0-2 start all my anger went to Jerry. At least he got it done.

 

[DuncanIso]

For the umpteenth time, Emmitt was NOT under contract for those first two games. That’s not a holdout. You can call it that if you want to, but he wasn’t holding out.

Did ESmith play any football in camp, preseason, or the first 2 games?

8)

 

[aria]

My friend...
Nothing. You keep being you. Not like I'm going to change a man...

Likewise buddy

 

[Little Jr]

I ask you the same question.
You bring up... just yards?
Laughable.

We can expand if you like.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Zeke only due 3.8 mill in base for 2019.

He's stupid to play for that.

That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. Bell, Gurley, and others had to wait. Zeke should as well. Two years early is too much, especially when you throw in his issues. I’m a huge Zeke fan, but holding out for a new contract with two years left is bad business IMO.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Did ESmith play any football in camp, preseason, or the first 2 games?

8)

Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem, so we’ll leave it at that. Emmitt and I were in exactly the same spot with the Cowboys in 1993. You know why? Neither of us had a contract to play for them.

 

[Little Jr]

In 2017 with Zeke the TEAM rushed for 144 ypg for 4.5 y/a with 30 rushes a game. Without Zeke they rushed for 121 ypg for 4.2 y/a and 28 rushes a game. 2 more carries don't sound like much but 2 more would've accounted fur 50 more yds and put them at 171.

They avg 24ppg with Zeke and 23ppg without Zeke when the OL was healthy with Smith in. In the 2 games both Smith and Zeke was out they avg 9ppg. Once Smith came back they avg 23ppg without Zeke.

I'm not paying a RB top $ for .3 more yards a carry and 1 more point. Especially since they did that with at best an above avg back up in R. Smith, a worst wr group than they have now, probably a worst ol than they have now but I'll call it a push, a better version of the QB, and a worst defense than they have now. If the back ups can just be above avg this team can handle the Zeke loss better than the 2017 team and they handled a lot better than people think.

Have to edit this. The 2 more carries game would've added 50 total over 6 games not per game. Would've put them at 130 a game.

 

[dfense]

They're really going to miss his 6 TDs. There were 20 RBs with more TDs last year.

 

[MrMavsMan]

Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem, so we’ll leave it at that. Emmitt and I were in exactly the same spot with the Cowboys in 1993. You know why? Neither of us had a contract to play for them.

What are you talking about?

his first contract was this: Took me 30 seconds to google his rookie contract, so yes he was under contract...

• 1990 – 4 years, $2,800,000

he was under contract in 1993 when he "held-out" all it took was a 30 second google to find that answer out. Fox sports also has this article of the most memorable holdouts in NFL history
"Emmitt Smith led the league in rushing in 1992, and helped the Cowboys to a Super Bowl victory that season. But he was set to make just $465,000 in 1993, so he held out for a deal that would more closely reflect his level of production. Smith missed the first two games of the regular season, both of which the Cowboys lost. The team finally came through with a deal worth $13.6 million over four years that made Smith (at the time) the highest-paid running back in league history, and Dallas became the first team to lose its first two games and then go on to win a Super Bowl in the same season."

 

[CowboyinMD]

$3,853,137 this year
$9,099,000 next year

Thats not enough cheddar? hes under contract on a huge rookie deal. Dallas gave him 16.8 million his rookie year. And has defended his dumb actions relentlessly. Time for him to shut up and play football.

And if they, especially RBs who typically average 3-5 good years in the NFL, have a problem with how the rookie contracts are structured, then they should complain to the NFLPA.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Players are cut all the time with money and years left on the contract. Is it your contention that the owners can terminate the contract at will, and the players shouldn't renegotiate?

Well it is the owners they vie for a contract from for a sum of money, time, etc....
As long as the contract is in effect, the owners honor the contract, so should players. If a player doesn't perform up to par to owners expectations (per the offer in the contract) then yes of course they have a right to cut the player.

Zeke will only hold out til August 6th so meh for the owners. Longer than that, fine em.
I don't personally have a problem with players negotiating for more money, we all have that right but majority of us still go to work everyday and fulfill our obligations, players should too.

If you want to talk about value and worthiness of a contract extension RIGHT NOW, I don't see much in Zeke's corner. Yes, he is a very good RB right now but that is where positives end.
1. His off the field antics is another suspension waiting to happen .
2. The RB position is a short life span position where your performance is at its peak early, but after a few years wears down.
3. he has 2 years left on his contract. Ink is barely dry. Honor the contract you are on.

All three of these say no, in Zeke's case: #1 is enough to say no.

After saying all that, I hope to see him on our field for some years to come. He is a great player on the field and brings fun to the game so don't read this wrong. I am solely talking about any talks of extending Zeke and him possibly holding out til he gets one

 

[dfense]

Was Emmitt on his rookie deal when he held out? I don't recall a player with only 3 years under his belt doing this. With still 2 years on his contract, I consider what Zeke is doing highly irregular. Even if he is outplaying his contract, he needs to be honorable to it, and believe Jerry will take care of him next year when he is in his final contractual year. What many are calling leverage, I call undermining his own integrity. Just because he could holdout doesn't mean he should. I think this sours his relationship with Jerry and the rest of the Jones boys. I don't know what happens but I wouldn't put it past Jerry to find a trading partner in a team like the Raiders and just pass this headache on to them. We could have been a contender but now we are left with thoughts of what could have been. It ain't easy being a Cowboys fan.

Ironically, Emmitt held out for a 13m contract. Zeke has more remaining on his rookie deal.

 

[DEA_dad]

 

[dfense]

For all the blame Garrett gets, it drives me crazy how every single year there is at least one good player who has to throw a wrench into the season. Wether it be off-field issues, ego problems or just bad luck. Irving, Gregory, Zeke, Rolando, Hardy, the Cowboys lead the league in suspensions. Season ending injuries like Romo and Fredbeard, The Dez debacle, it goes on and on. Sometimes it seems winning a championship is not a top priority anymore.

 

[CATCH17]

I don't believe in all my time as a Cowboy fan wanding these boards have I see a fanbase so vehement toward a player who is clearly the best player on the team.

I can remember players that generated such acrimony, but they were not the best player.

It causes me to wonder how many of you stand up at your job and play hardball to get the most money you can?

This is a different time. Never have I seen people act like a player did something to them personally like this before.

It’s because there is a salary cap and the position he plays is devalued. Him being a knucklehead doesn’t help either.

The salary cap is what causes these debates about a player.

 

[JoeKing]

LOL. You might want to take your own advice and read the article you referenced. No where in it does it say Emmitt was in the fourth year of a current contract. You know why? Because he had a three year contract that had expired. The only thing about a fourth year contract in that article is the one he ended up signing in 93, which was his second contract.

Here is Emmit's contract history. It clearly states his rookie contract signed in 1990 was for four(4) years.

https://overthecap.com/player/emmitt-smith/7730/

 

[Swanny]

A deal that made him a top 5 paid rb before he ever stepped foot on the field?

I wish people would think critically.

I love the backhand insult. In my opinion yes Zeke is getting paid plenty. He should be happy to be playing at the price tag he is playing at. In my opinion the rookie wage scale should exist. In my opinion Zeke should hold out for more money. In my opinion the Cowboys shouldn't give him jack until his 5th and final year (don't re-sign please God). In my opinion Zeke has no one to blame about his contract situation but the very union that negotiated the contract he plays under. In my opinion it's a great contract. In my opinion my opinion doesn't mean squat to Zeke or the Cowboys. I don't know how to critaclly think about this any better. I wish my critical thinking skills were as amazing as yours.

It's not me who is upset about how much Zeke is getting paid. I agree he is getting paid plenty. Zeke doesn't think he's getting paid enough. I wish he would critically think about how much he is being paid. He must suck at critical thinking as well.

 

[MrMavsMan]

Here is Emmit's contract history. It clearly states his rookie contract signed in 1990 was for four(4) years.

https://overthecap.com/player/emmitt-smith/7730/

lol and he dips out. Emmitt was under contract in 1993. Fox sports even has an article about the biggest holdouts in NFL history and had Emmitt at the top and put his year 4 salary was to be 465,000 but he held out. If he didn't have a contract he wouldn't have had this "salary".

No clue where this Emmitt didn't have a contract stuff is coming from.