Jerry created this monster

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Easy answer.

Letting players hold you hostage will lead to multiple problems w/ players down the road. Better to just let him sit and stew and lose money in Cabo.

Zeke will have a lot of time in his hands, maybe he calls the 'Juice' ; asks him for advice .

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Easy answer.

Letting players hold you hostage will lead to multiple problems w/ players down the road. Better to just let him sit and stew and lose money in Cabo.

While the only team we are beating are the Giants ya seen this movie before and I prefer to watch the one that has # 21 in the backfield!

 

[kskboys]

While the only team we are beating are the Giants ya seen this movie before and I prefer to watch the one that has # 21 in the backfield!

I'm OK w/ seeing how Dak performs w/o him. Good test.

 

[CouchCoach]

Easy answer.

Letting players hold you hostage will lead to multiple problems w/ players down the road. Better to just let him sit and stew and lose money in Cabo.

And that's exactly why Belichick doesn't play the game with players. If he'd tagged Flowers and had him hold out, not only is that a distraction to his team, it undermines who is in charge.

The Cowboys have the rep of paying the stars, why shouldn't one hold out when they have the history of blinking even under the threat of a holdout? And just my opinion, but Booger is hot hot for the triplets, I believe he thinks that was what really delivered those rings. And it's not helping with almost every analyst saying they can't win without Elliott.

But this situation is different because he has learned from some of those mistakes and he knows that "we can sign everybody" is radio fluff from his son. If they can't keep everybody, they've got some really tough calls to make and unfortunately, most will come from the D side.

And this isn't aided by the lack of RB buzz coming out of camp.

 

[CouchCoach]

I'm OK w/ seeing how Dak performs w/o him. Good test.

All of the Dak can't win without Zeke is from 2017 and wasn't this offense or this OC. Don't you wonder if Dak doesn't feel the same way? Think he might be tired of hearing he can't win without Elliott?

I hope Garrett & Co are playing this like life without Elliott in camp and not leaving that hole open in hopes he comes in.

 

[kskboys]

All of the Dak can't win without Zeke is from 2017 and wasn't this offense or this OC. Don't you wonder if Dak doesn't feel the same way? Think he might be tired of hearing he can't win without Elliott?

I hope Garrett & Co are playing this like life without Elliott in camp and not leaving that hole open in hopes he comes in.

Dak is a man, and doesn't pay attention to such hoopla.

 

[Diehardblues]

I'm OK w/ seeing how Dak performs w/o him. Good test.

Yea, but where are we if we sign Dak to 30+ million and without Elliott we stink it up?

Or should we wait to sign Dak until we see for a full season ?

 

[Diehardblues]

All of the Dak can't win without Zeke is from 2017 and wasn't this offense or this OC. Don't you wonder if Dak doesn't feel the same way? Think he might be tired of hearing he can't win without Elliott?

I hope Garrett & Co are playing this like life without Elliott in camp and not leaving that hole open in hopes he comes in.

That’s what’s driving my doubts of Dak . I have concerns even with Elliott and all of this supporting cast.

As much as I’d like too see if Dak can carry us without Elliott I’m more concerned the effects will cost us a better shot to contend.

 

[kskboys]

Yea, but where are we if we sign Dak to 30+ million and without Elliott we stink it up?

Or should we wait to sign Dak until we see for a full season ?

Unless Dak is willing to take 25mil/per, I'd wait.

 

[kskboys]

That’s what’s driving my doubts of Dak . I have concerns even with Elliott and all of this supporting cast.

As much as I’d like too see if Dak can carry us without Elliott I’m more concerned the effects will cost us a better shot to contend.

Yes, it would be taking a chance on the season, but long term you'd get answers. And long term should always be in the conversation.

 

[CouchCoach]

That’s what’s driving my doubts of Dak . I have concerns even with Elliott and all of this supporting cast.

As much as I’d like too see if Dak can carry us without Elliott I’m more concerned the effects will cost us a better shot to contend.

He's not a QB to "carry" the team and not many do anyway, that's overblown, they all need help. Think Brady wins the SB without that D and run game?

Remains to be seen what this offense will look like under Young Kellen and if Dak has improved in the off season under real game circumstances.

As far as doubts, I don't have them that he can't manage the game and execute the offense and provide a little extra oomph with his legs because I do not fault him for not advancing in the playoffs, that's on the D as it has always been even with Romo.

The real problem, the real doubt I have is with this D, not Dak, with or without Elliott. We're really good at selling ourselves that we're finally getting there and we never quite do.

 

[Diehardblues]

He's not a QB to "carry" the team and not many do anyway, that's overblown, they all need help. Think Brady wins the SB without that D and run game?

Remains to be seen what this offense will look like under Young Kellen and if Dak has improved in the off season under real game circumstances.

As far as doubts, I don't have them that he can't manage the game and execute the offense and provide a little extra oomph with his legs because I do not fault him for not advancing in the playoffs, that's on the D as it has always been even with Romo.

The real problem, the real doubt I have is with this D, not Dak, with or without Elliott. We're really good at selling ourselves that we're finally getting there and we never quite do.

I have doubts with the defense too.

 

[kskboys]

He's not a QB to "carry" the team and not many do anyway, that's overblown, they all need help. Think Brady wins the SB without that D and run game?

Remains to be seen what this offense will look like under Young Kellen and if Dak has improved in the off season under real game circumstances.

As far as doubts, I don't have them that he can't manage the game and execute the offense and provide a little extra oomph with his legs because I do not fault him for not advancing in the playoffs, that's on the D as it has always been even with Romo.

The real problem, the real doubt I have is with this D, not Dak, with or without Elliott. We're really good at selling ourselves that we're finally getting there and we never quite do.

Brady sucked in the super bowl. 13 points loses you most games.

 

[kskboys]

I have doubts with the defense too.

Me too. They were good at times, but very bad at times also.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yes, it would be taking a chance on the season, but long term you'd get answers. And long term should always be in the conversation.

I’m not sure what “ long term” is for this franchise?

No one knows what the future holds. I see this team as able to contend now if they have all the pieces on the field. That’s all I can see for now. I have no faith in the unforeseen future.

 

[Diehardblues]

Me too. They were good at times, but very bad at times also.

Yep and dependent on a ball control rushing offense.

No other team in NFL is probably as dependent on both sides of the ball for their rushing offense and Elite RB.

 

[kskboys]

I’m not sure what “ long term” is for this franchise?

No one knows what the future holds. I see this team as able to contend now if they have all the pieces on the field. That’s all I can see for now. I have no faith in the unforeseen future.

That's a cliche. Looking ahead is extremely important in this game. Ignoring steps that can be taken due to "no one knows what the future holds" is a way to failure.

Here's a cliche to answer a cliche: "Those who fail to plan plan to fail."!!!!!!!

 

[kskboys]

Yep and dependent on a ball control rushing offense.

No other team in NFL is probably as dependent on both sides of the ball for their rushing offense and Elite RB.

That's due to having a GM who doesn't understand the intricacies of building a contender in the NFL. And running the ball prolifically was forced on him, not what he wanted. When we suddenly gave Murray the ball prolifically back in 14 and it led to 12-4, Jerry had finally discovered a way to win. He really doesn't know any other way, and he lucked into this one.

 

[CouchCoach]

Me too. They were good at times, but very bad at times also.

That's where citing the stats can be misleading. That's how most defend them, but they were ranked 7th in yards and they were and the one thing that saved their butts and won the division was they ranked 6th in scoring D, one point better than their scoring average, where they ranked 22nd.

The eyeball test for a D cannot be beat. That's where you see the consistency and can they be trusted with the game on the line? Landry and Johnson would prefer a 4 point lead and turning the game over to the D in the final drive as opposed to the reverse and they had good O's.

We haven't had a D like that in 20+ years because they haven't built it, it's always been under construction. I like the way this D is being built but am not sold it is there yet or that they can keep it together. And unless it's a DE, it's the D guy that's odd man out if it comes down to having to choose.

 

[Whyjerry]

...now he doesn't know whether to slay it or feed it!
Jerry going around and telling every open mic that we were going to sign Dak, Coop and Zeke. What did he expect? If he doesn't sign these guys it's gonna be a long tension filled season. Zeke gets signed and Dak doesn't, I don't think Dak will be happy and vice versa. He needs to find a way to sign them all before the season. IMO

The guy never learns. Dallas has long suffered from extreme hubris. Thinking they are smarter than everyone else. RBs do not equal championships in this league. Well proven. Yet here we are. Do not sign Zeke!