Twitter: Zeke posts on twitter in reply to official Cowboys tweet on Mike Weber

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Owners do. They have the contractual right to terminate the contracts when they do. That makes what they do a very different thing from refusing to perform the contract (a holdout).

People need to get past this obvious confusion. If owners honouring contracts required what you’re suggesting no team would ever be free to cut a player.

And frankly every player in the league understands that the only part of a contract they can bank on is the guaranteed portion. Any years that aren’t guaranteed amount to team options, which will be picked up only if the team expects the player’s performance to continue to justify the cost.

Umm....The CBA allows players to hold out. As long as there is money in contracts that is not guaranteed, this will happen. You should get over it already. You don't really care about Zeke "being a man" and honoring his contract anyway. What you really care about is him possibly ruining your feel good and enjoyment of a team that is better with him than without him.
 

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zeke has all the leverage here if they don't sign him the cowboys are a 5 or 6 win team at best and they are in a win now mode this is a huge year if things go south there will be huge changes the jones are completely out of there league when It comes to running a nfl team
On the bright side we'll probably have JG for another year. One more excuse for him.
 

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How's a guy set to make 20+M over his rookie contract getting taken advantage of??

Poor wittle baby, Zeekkee..

Skip over the part where you encourage the team to purposefully run the player into the ground and use up his body with no intention of extending their contract later.....

Zeke isn’t the one crying btw. You’re the one crying on a message board because he isn’t at practice. Poor little baby jeffkills. Zeke is holding out.

Zeke is just negotiating. Stop taking it so damn personal.
 

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Teams honor contracts to a T.
they do. most that say they don't have never sat down and spent a few days reading all the fine print. Ratliff and orton broke their deals and walked away with a lot of signing bonus money that they never had to repay. the players are held far less accountable for honoring their contracts than the teams. most labor laws, including the cba protect the player.
 

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Yes but he gladly signed the back of that 16 millionsigning bonus check and cashed it.

The one he was slotted into based off draft position and a CBA he wasn’t even able to negotiate?

Sure.

Again, I’m not saying the holdout is necessarily a wise move by Zeke. Just pointing out how dumb it is for fans to take this stuff personal and pull the “he better get to practice” stuff.

Holdouts are a part of the NFL. People need to relax

Zeke is unable to sign with another team and play football in the NFL unless it’s with the cowboys. The cowboys can fine him. Zeke doesn’t get paid if he doesn’t play. Zeke IS facing the consequences of the contract he signed. That’s what some people are missing.
 

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Umm....The CBA allows players to hold out. As long as there is money in contracts that is not guaranteed, this will happen. You should get over it already. You don't really care about Zeke "being a man" and honoring his contract anyway. What you really care about is him possibly ruining your feel good and enjoyment of a team that is better with him than without him.

‘The CBA allows players to hold out.’

Nonsense. The CBA imposes significant penalties on holdouts, including fines (in Zeke’s case, $40K per day) and the compromise of FA rights.

And you’re right: I’d have no issue with what he’s doing (though the Cowboys surely would) if he wasn’t threatening my enjoyment of this season. That is neither here nor there.
 

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Get real? OK. NFL players make more than enough to retire on comfortably by playing only a few years. Zeke has already made enough to never have to work again.

Zeke's skills are a commodity. Down right un American if he doesn't try to get what he's worth.

That he's made what you perceive as enough is irrelevant. He's made a small fraction of his market value
 

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The one he was slotted into based off draft position and a CBA he wasn’t even able to negotiate?

Sure.

Again, I’m not saying the holdout is necessarily a wise move by Zeke. Just pointing out how dumb it is for fans to take this stuff personal and pull the “he better get to practice” stuff.

Holdouts are a part of the NFL. People need to relax
Your right. JJ said himself he isn’t worried. The deal is to good for both sides. It will be done. Just want the money side done. Dak and Cooper aren’t worried. Glad that Dak isn’t holding out.
 

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Your right. JJ said himself he isn’t worried. The deal is to good for both sides. It will be done. Just want the money side done. Dak and Cooper aren’t worried. Glad that Dak isn’t holding out.

I agree. Like I said in previous posts. Believe me. I prefer that Zeke didn’t hold out. I am not a fan of his strategy.

But people calling for him to be cut or traded or whatever just out of spite? People calling him a baby because he is holding out? That stuff is just nonsense.
 

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Zeke's skills are a commodity. Down right un American if he doesn't try to get what he's worth.

That he's made what you perceive as enough is irrelevant. He's made a small fraction of his market value
That you think he hasn't made what he is worth is even more irrelevant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

His "market value" is only perception of market value. If a team overpays a player, that does not necessarily equate to raising everyone's market value.
 

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I feel confident that this will all get worked out however football is unlike any business I have seen. Employees aka players often make more than the supervisor aka the HC. As for Jerry he has stuck by players even those whose off the field action have caused his business to suffer including sticking by Zeke. For all the crap Jerry takes one thing can't be denied he has done right by his players even at times when he shouldn't like Gregory.
Jerry sticks by Gregory because Gregory don't cost much
 

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I don't blame Zeke for wanting his money, and I sincerely believe what Gary Brown has noted: that it's killing him not to be in camp.

If you want to point the finger at anyone, point it square at Stephen Jones. He, like his daddy, tends to divulge too much information to the media, so of course Zeke's agent sees that and acts accordingly, because after all, the agents are the ones being paid here as well. Comments such as comparing his deal to a Gurley deal and the 'straw that stirs our drink' are the ones I'm referring to in particular.

There is a reason why owners and GM's do not frequently speak to media, especially during this time of the year when negotiations are ongoing and roster moves are being made in abundance. We are just the luckiest fanbase in the world I guess to have the Jones boys :rolleyes:
 

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That you think he hasn't made what he is worth is even more irrelevant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

His "market value" is only perception of market value. If a team overpays a player, that does not necessarily equate to raising everyone's market value.

His market value clearly far exceeds his current deal.

And by definition, the market value of any deal that hasn't happened yet is perceived market value. Also, any new deal for a top talent raises everyone's market value. That's how things work when the cap increases considerably each year.
 

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Skip over the part where you encourage the team to purposefully run the player into the ground and use up his body with no intention of extending their contract later.....

Zeke isn’t the one crying btw. You’re the one crying on a message board because he isn’t at practice. Poor little baby jeffkills. Zeke is holding out.

Zeke is just negotiating. Stop taking it so damn personal.

If he walks like a biznatch and talks like a biznatch, then $20M should be the ceiling value of his services to this team until he dominates in the playoffs and brings us a SB...

Whats worse than Gurly’s contract situation? Oh, why that’d be the one where we top Gurley’s K and then Zeke is involved with another sexual/domestic violence.

And anyway, you simply must admit he’s just not properly in line to get paid. All he has to do is not get in trouble with the NFL/police and he’s be making at least half what Dak does in advertising...

Because of his choices, Jerry won’t permit him to set the example..

Jerry’s ego won’t permit Zeke to act like a spoiled, ungrateful baby, then get max paid... Jerry’s ego would rather prove Zeke wrong and get another SB without him...

It’s what the good teams do.. Never let a problem-child, pre-Madonna set the example...
 

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Jerry sticks by Gregory because Gregory don't cost much

Jerry stuck by Irvin as well he has been there for players having them use private jet when there has been a tragedy in their family. Jerry has done a lot for players those who are highly paid and those who are not.
 
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