Taco seems to have bust written all over him

[jsb357]

Taco was the best DL last game.

Against the 2s, 3s and next years junior high PE teachers...

 

[Verdict]

Written like someone who believes it is all about sacks ....

I’m curious what your expectations are on him? You seem high on him. What are you thinking he is going to perform like this year?

 

[Verdict]

Taco is already a partial bust because he should have contributed more by now.

Having said that, Taco was good in this preseason game.

What are you expecting for Taco to do this year @xwalker ?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No sacks bro. No sacks. Nada.

1 QB hit and 3 pressures plus good against the run. Sacks aren't everything.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Depends on what your definition of a bust is.

Will Taco ever be a probowler and pile up sack numbers? No, probably not.

Is Taco an average starter in the NFL? Yea, I think he is.

So, it all depends on what your definition of a bust is. If you think all first round picks should be probowlers, then yea, he would be a bust to you.

 

[Hardline]

My biggest problem with Taco is who was still on the board at the time he was picked.

 

[aria]

3 years in and this is what he is as as a first round pick? He was considered a bust half way through his dirst year IMO.

 

[xwalker]

What are you expecting for Taco to do this year @xwalker ?

I expect a performance that fans would be pleased with if he had been a free agent signing for the Kerry Hyder type contract (1M per).

I don't expect a performance that fana would be pleased with for a 1st round pick in his 3rd season.

 

[dsturgeon]

Dlaw was not doing what he is now his first few years. That and Gregory's suspensions are most likely the reasons they went DE again in the first round.

Is Dlaw a bust?

 

[Verdict]

I expect a performance that fans would be pleased with if he had been a free agent signing for the Kerry Hyder type contract (1M per).

I don't expect a performance that fana would be pleased with for a 1st round pick in his 3rd season.

I’m just curious what that is. I don’t know what to expect from Hyder. 3 Sacks? Solid run defense?

I think Taco is probably capable of being a solid (average) player against the run. I don’t think he has the dedication or ability to be a very good pass rusher.

If Taco seriously applied himself he could probably be a moderately successful (not elite) pass rushing DE. Poor man’s Anthony Spencer.

But Spencer is light years ahead of Taco right now.

I realize that sacks can be misleading. Sacks are, to some degree, involve luck. For instance, I think on Taco’s only sack last year he wasn’t blocked. Or, conversely a guy may get a sack and have it wiped out by a penalty.

 

[Verdict]

Dlaw was not doing what he is now his first few years. That and Gregory's suspensions are most likely the reasons they went DE again in the first round.

Is Dlaw a bust?

Tank flashed ability from time to time. Tank hasn’t really given us much, so far, to be optimistic about.

 

[Verdict]

Depends on what your definition of a bust is.

Will Taco ever be a probowler and pile up sack numbers? No, probably not.

Is Taco an average starter in the NFL? Yea, I think he is.

So, it all depends on what your definition of a bust is. If you think all first round picks should be probowlers, then yea, he would be a bust to you.

He had one sack, and I think, if I remember it correctly he was not blocked on that play. How is that considered average as a pass rusher?

Hell I might be able to sack the QB at 54 if I was unblocked and the QB held the ball like statue.

 

[xwalker]

O9

I’m just curious what that is. I don’t know what to expect from Hyder. 3 Sacks? Solid run defense?

I think Taco is probably capable of being a solid (average) player against the run. I don’t think he has the dedication or ability to be a very good pass rusher.

If Taco seriously applied himself he could probably be a moderately successful (not elite) pass rushing DE. Poor man’s Anthony Spencer.

But Spencer is light years ahead of Taco right now.

I realize that sacks can be misleading. Sacks are, to some degree luck. For instance, I think on Taco’s only sack last year he wasn’t blocked. Or, conversely a guy may get a sack and have it wiped out by a penalty.

I'm not referring to Hyder's ability, just his contract and how acquired compared to how Taco was acquired.

Taco's draft status is irrelevant at this point.

The only relevant issue is whether he is 1 of the 10 best DL on the team and is he one of the top 4 DEs on game day.

Spencer was a much better player than most fans ever realized. Playing the Strong Side OLB position in the Wade and RR 3-4 defenses was a very difficult position. It's a "3 tool" position in that it requires run defense, pass coverage and pass rushing skills. The Weak Side OLB position (Ware's position) had minimal pass coverage responsibilities and the run defense requirements were less also (The Strong Side OLB played the run almost like a 2-gap DL vs the WOLB playing it more like a 1-gap DL. The WOLB was often allowed to abandon run contain and just rush the passer off the snap).

Just be happy that scum of the earth Dez is gone.

You're just going to make yourself miserable focusing on Taco and Witten.

 

[dsturgeon]

The cowboys had dlaw, gregory, Crawford, and taco last year

There are only 2 de's on the field most of the time.

So taking the numbers of the de's on the field and comparing them to de's who are not rushing does not work.

Taco not being on the field does not mean he is a bust. He has only played two years out of a possible 5 years on his rookie contract

 

[Alexander]

Depends on what your definition of a bust is.

Will Taco ever be a probowler and pile up sack numbers? No, probably not.

Is Taco an average starter in the NFL? Yea, I think he is.

Even Kavika Pittman and Ebenezer Ekuban were "average starters". It still does not mean they were not a complete waste of a first round pick.

Charlton is in the boat as far as I am concerned. He is suddenly not going to start becoming what he was needed to be. Just a poor pick, especially when T.J. Watt was right there, staring us in the face.

 

[Fontaine]

Taco has improved for sure. Let’s not forget how long it took DLaw to come on. Give the kid some time, he may surprise a few of you.

 

[Verdict]

O9


I'm not referring to Hyder's ability, just his contract and how acquired compared to how Taco was acquired.

Taco's draft status is irrelevant at this point.

The only relevant issue is whether he is 1 of the 10 best DL on the team and is he one of the top 4 DEs on game day.

Spencer was a much better player than most fans ever realized. Playing the Strong Side OLB position in the Wade and RR 3-4 defenses was a very difficult position. It's a "3 tool" position in that it requires run defense, pass coverage and pass rushing skills. The Weak Side OLB position (Ware's position) had minimal pass coverage responsibilities and the run defense requirements were less also (The Strong Side OLB played the run almost like a 2-gap DL vs the WOLB playing it more like a 1-gap DL. The WOLB was often allowed to abandon run contain and just rush the passer off the snap).

Just be happy that scum of the earth Dez is gone.

You're just going to make yourself miserable focusing on Taco and Witten.

I agree that his draft status is irrelevant as to whether he should make the team. And I agree about your criterion about what should determine if he makes the team.

I’m not sure if he qualifies under either category, but it would be nice if he does, because he is probably making the team because of his contract and draft position regardless.

Yes Spencer was better than most people realized, but he was also way overpaid for his ability. Spencer was a much better player than Taco is at the same level in their careers.

Taco may turn it around. I hope he does. However, personally, I don’t think it’s a good sign that he’s not dominating guys who won’t make a 53 man roster.

 

[Verdict]

Taco has improved for sure. Let’s not forget how long it took DLaw to come on. Give the kid some time, he may surprise a few of you.

Taco may end up being a better player than Tank, but at this point he is WAY behind Tank’s level of play at the same point in their careers. Tank needs to be hitting the weight room and getting schooled on his technique like a wild man.

 

[Floatyworm]

To be fair, Taco seems to be doing better after Marinelli had that "man to man" talk with him. The effort is there on a more consistent basis and he actually did some good things. The pressure he's getting seems more intense, which is always welcome. Whether he does well enough to outperform some of the younger guys remains to be seen, though. Armstrong, Hyder and Jackson are very likely to give him some stiff competition. That's always good to see!

Thought Taco played pretty well. I've come to the conclusion...as I think the staff has as well...He's a RDE. He just doesn't seem to have the build to pack on the pounds and be a LDE. I think the coaching staff struggled early on where to play him...and having him concentrate on the right side might be his ticket.
Question is...now what to do w/ Crawford?

 

[Manster_Mash]

Ya think?

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