How many would take a pay cut?

[kskboys]

I speak nothing but the truth buddy

No sir, you are not. You stated that no one would take less. That is not true.

I not only have taken less for happiness, I would do it again in a heartbeat. Money is not everything to everybody. Family and love, loyalty, integrity, those things come way before money for me. I don't mind if you say you would take the money, but you shouldn't put everyone in that category.

 

[Blackspider214]

You do realize it rings a little hollow comparing people making in the millions to hourly employees?

Why? It's all relative to your own life. Do you think because you make millions, a pay cut is not a pay cut regardless? So many fans see these contracts and scoff at the difference of 5 million and 5.50 million because it's just decimals on a screen. But that is $500,000. That is a 10% difference. Do you scoff at that in your own life? Certainly not. Do you scoff at $500,000? Absolutely not. But because they make x amount of money, they aren't supposed to care about taking less money?

 

[WillieBeamen]

No I brought up Zeke honoring his contract when you stated the Cowboys reneged on him. Go back to the post. I even highlighted the part of your post I was responding to.

So your strawman comeback doesn’t make sense. You were the one who brought up the concept of reneging, not me.

YOU ignored my main point in my post and focused on the reneging part. Knowing that wasnt the main thing I was arguing.

 

[Rockport]

How isnt he playing the game to win?

Is he not training hard to be the best player he can be?

Like i said, assembling a championship roster isn't and shouldnt be his concern....

If all he cares about is his personal wealth and not winning then it’s not his concern.

 

[WillieBeamen]

No sir, you are not. You stated that no one would take less. That is not true.

I not only have taken less for happiness, I would do it again in a heartbeat. Money is not everything to everybody. Family and love, loyalty, integrity, those things come way before money for me. I don't mind if you say you would take the money, but you shouldn't put everyone in that category.

Im not talking about taking less for happiness.

Im talking about taking less so others can get paid. And yes there are few out there that would do that, but it isnt a common practice.

 

[WillieBeamen]

If all he cares about is his personal wealth and not winning then it’s not his concern.

How does wanting to get paid= not wanting to win?


Please explain that to me.

Last time that I checked (RIP NIP), Aaron Donald went to the Super Bowl after holding out and then receiving his historic deal....

 

[ClearVision]

This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.

While you take a $4 dollar pay cut here, you make it up in endorsement deals plus what your making now plus a nice booth job once you retire plus a good real estate offer once your “ retired “ .
I’m assuming your talking about Dak Prescott .

 

[My3Sons]

Why? It's all relative to your own life. Do you think because you make millions, a pay cut is not a pay cut regardless? So many fans see these contracts and scoff at the difference of 5 million and 5.50 million because it's just decimals on a screen. But that is $500,000. That is a 10% difference. Do you scoff at that in your own life? Certainly not. Do you scoff at $500,000? Absolutely not. But because they make x amount of money, they aren't supposed to care about taking less money?

For starters it is not a pay cut. It is a reasonable raise.

I am probably one of the few in here who can relate. My fellow workers were well takin care of when I sold my company. And yes, I took less money on a large scale.

 

[kskboys]

Not True



You ever think hes won the most Super Bowls, because maybe just maybe he is the Greatest QB of all time and also has the Greatest Coach of all-time?

Besides maybe 2007, the Patriots have never been known to have the most talented roster

It's definitely part of the equation. And there's just too many examples to support it. Flacco, Eli, Wilson, haven't sniffed a super bowl since they got paid. You lose too much around them.

I also disagree about the talented roster thing. Pats are loaded w/ talent, but due to the system they play and the sometimes odd ways in which Belly makes use of players, they don't always appear talented to general fans.

Think of this: Top 10 players on the Pats last year:

Brady
Gronk
Hightower
Edelmann
James White(Top 10 receiving RB)
Flowers
Gilmore
McCourty
Shaq Mason
Marcus Cannon
Van Noy


That's 11 out of 22 starters in the top 10 or so at their position. That's half the team.

The Pats are stacked. Fans heard some talking spew about them not having talent and have repeated it ad nauseum w/o checking to see if it's true. It's not.

 

[jnday]

This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.

Yes, some people are advocating for “player socialism “ , but a call out thread wasn’t necessary.

 

[yimyammer]

You ever think hes won the most Super Bowls, because maybe just maybe he is the Greatest QB of all time and also has the Greatest Coach of all-time?

Absolutely!

No doubt he's benefitted incredibly because he's played for the greatest coach and his secret weapon Ernie Adams, combine this with Bradys freak work ethic and devotion to the game and wallah, 6 Super Bowl wins and counting...

We do disagree on the salary tho, I think his salary reduction helps create an overall deeper roster. However, I would say Belichick, Adams and Brady are so good, they could probably get away with paying Brady more and still win.

 

[cern]

we're not all the same. we weren't all raised the same. we don't all think the same. but we do want everyone to agree with us. Jaylon is Jaylon. zeke is zeke. more and more i'm seeing a leveon bell deal developing with zeke. he doesn't get the endorsements that could be his. he doesn't seem to appreciate what jerry has done sticking up for him through his off the field incidents. we might have seen the last of #21 in a cowboys uniform.

 

[Big_D]

Some might if they were a complete dumazz outside of work that already cost their boss 2 million?

 

[Bizwah]

Why? It's all relative to your own life. Do you think because you make millions, a pay cut is not a pay cut regardless? So many fans see these contracts and scoff at the difference of 5 million and 5.50 million because it's just decimals on a screen. But that is $500,000. That is a 10% difference. Do you scoff at that in your own life? Certainly not. Do you scoff at $500,000? Absolutely not. But because they make x amount of money, they aren't supposed to care about taking less money?

Again. It's not a pay cut. As a matter of fact, he's going to GET A RAISE.

 

[Bigdog]

Well if I am the one being cut I will take a pay cut to keep my job. Plus if we can hire more people to do the job than I can spend more time with family or pursue interests that like. I have the opportunity to make more money but turn it dow because I like the people I work with. The grass is not always greener on the other side. Sometimes it is filed with crap.

 

[WillieBeamen]

It's definitely part of the equation. And there's just too many examples to support it. Flacco, Eli, Wilson, haven't sniffed a super bowl since they got paid. You lose too much around them.

I also disagree about the talented roster thing. Pats are loaded w/ talent, but due to the system they play and the sometimes odd ways in which Belly makes use of players, they don't always appear talented to general fans.

Think of this: Top 10 players on the Pats last year:

Brady
Gronk
Hightower
Edelmann
James White(Top 10 receiving RB)
Flowers
Gilmore
McCourty
Shaq Mason
Marcus Cannon
Van Noy


That's 11 out of 22 starters in the top 10 or so at their position. That's half the team.

The Pats are stacked. Fans heard some talking spew about them not having talent and have repeated it ad nauseum w/o checking to see if it's true. It's not.

Compare that roster with the Cowboys roster....

Zeke
Cooper
Frederick
Smith
Martin
LVE
Jones
Lawerence
Smith
Lee

Just as talented. You want to know what the major difference is? QB and Head Coach...

 

[JoeKing]

This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.

From a socioeconomical stand point, that's a ridiculous synopsis. These players are not making a wage they rely on from check to check. Taking away $4/hr would put the average blue collar worker below the poverty line. These players can afford to give up some money to make room for others. You cannot compare their financial circumstances to the average poster here.

 

[atlantacowboy]

This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.

Are you a fan of the Dallas Cowboys or a fan of your pet cat players? Thats the only question here.

 

[Scotman]

I mentioned this in another thread.

I took less money so that others in my district could make more. I was the superintendent in a small school district in Texas. Definitely making less than the big districts, but still well over 100 a year. I turned down raises several times during the 12 years I was superintendent...including the year I was superintendent of the year for my region. I am absolutely sure I could have added another 20-30% to my salary my last couple of years and more prior to that. It allowed my to keep my Ag teacher who became President of the Texas FFA teacher's association. It allowed me to keep my head coach who became the president of the Texas 6-man Coach's Association. It allowed me to give everyone who had been there 30+ years a 25% pay increase. It allowed me to do things like provide ALL the school supplies for the kids...every sheet of paper...every pencil...every book...even the dual credit course tuition. I retired last October and left behind a financially stable and strong academic district with home-grown leadership to replace me.

If these guys all want top money they are going to sacrifice having a strong team. And when they are already guaranteed money that will secure their family for generations...it makes no sense to me. I know for a fact I wouldn't make the same choice.

 

[yimyammer]

No sir, you are not. You stated that no one would take less. That is not true.

I not only have taken less for happiness, I would do it again in a heartbeat. Money is not everything to everybody. Family and love, loyalty, integrity, those things come way before money for me. I don't mind if you say you would take the money, but you shouldn't put everyone in that category.

Likewise, I left a big 6 accounting firms fat salary to go into building and remodeling where I didn't make more than $200 in my first 6 months of starting my biz. I hung with it and ended up retiring in my 40's never having to enslave myself to audits with a noose around my neck and a straight jacket while confined to some depressing office building. My friend who stayed with them makes millions per year but the money could never outweigh the misery index that comes with it plus that job cant compare to the freedom, happiness & creative outlet my career has afforded me.

The wise ones realize its not simply about the money