How many would take a pay cut?

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.
I've done it before. Sometimes a job is more important than the money.
 

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Considering the company I work for makes hundreds of millions of dollars in profit.

I would say no.

If the company was hurting financially. Those things might change.

This is where the arguments about the salary cap come into play.
No one would take a pay cut to help their company that’s making money
Taking a cut to help a company stay afloat I suspect some would
I actually have
Your point about the cap is spot on
There literally is just so much to spread around
The teams mostly are doing very well but the cap only allows for so many to get top pay
To me Zeke situation is different than Dak’s and coopers
Dak is working and doing his job, Cooper is injured but willing to play out
Zeke has two years left
If this was next year and he was going into his final year I would be more understanding of his situation
 

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I mentioned this in another thread.

I took less money so that others in my district could make more. I was the superintendent in a small school district in Texas. Definitely making less than the big districts, but still well over 100 a year. I turned down raises several times during the 12 years I was superintendent...including the year I was superintendent of the year for my region. I am absolutely sure I could have added another 20-30% to my salary my last couple of years and more prior to that. It allowed my to keep my Ag teacher who became President of the Texas FFA teacher's association. It allowed me to keep my head coach who became the president of the Texas 6-man Coach's Association. It allowed me to give everyone who had been there 30+ years a 25% pay increase. It allowed me to do things like provide ALL the school supplies for the kids...every sheet of paper...every pencil...every book...even the dual credit course tuition. I retired last October and left behind a financially stable and strong academic district with home-grown leadership to replace me.

If these guys all want top money they are going to sacrifice having a strong team. And when they are already guaranteed money that will secure their family for generations...it makes no sense to me. I know for a fact I wouldn't make the same choice.
Sounds like the type of administrator teacher's love.

Our Supe did the same. Our district went through some tough times years ago. Teachers were in danger of being let go, we were all in a salary freeze (even though insurance was going up), and he was due a raise. He actually took less like you did....he understood that was how to have the BEST TEAM for the kids.

Jerry is no different. In reality, he could make a HUGE push for the NFL getting rid of the cap. Shoot. The Cowboys would dominate the market and FA. But he realizes the NFL is a team. The salary cap has enabled the NFL to become a huge juggernaut.

I don't think it's out of line for him to ask players to take less of a raise to build a better team. That's what he's done. If there was no salary cap, there's no doubt that Jerry would pay each player what they feel they deserve. He's not being cheap....he's being smart with the rules.
 

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.
This is insane. Dak, Zeke and Cooper have all been offered massive pay raises. Zeke and Dak are doing it out of ego on wanting to be paid more than so and so. Dak knows damn well he shouldn't be paid more than Wilson. Zeke is a bone head and should get Gurley money. Cooper is handling it like a pro and he is the only one that owes nothing to the Cowboys.
 

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.

what a stupid ignorant op
 

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.

Who's taking a pay cut? Stop spouting stupid stuff. Anything Zeke and Dak get will be a raise.
 

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.
I’ve been in that situation, and, yes, we took a pay cut.
 

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Considering the company I work for makes hundreds of millions of dollars in profit.

I would say no.

If the company was hurting financially. Those things might change.

This is where the arguments about the salary cap come into play.
I get it.
But the company isn't saving this money. Them not paying has nothing to do with how much money they make and everything to do with how much they are allowed t spend.
They're just spreading the exact same amount money out a little more.

I'm in the camp that says everyone is entitled to get what they can get, but every company is also allowed to allocate their resources anyway they want.

In the NFL, that means the player can look for the absolute maximum penny he can find but he runs the risk of finding that extra cash in a different organization.
 

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I get it.
But the company isn't saving this money, them not paying has nothing to do with how much money they make and everything to do with how much they are allowed t spend.
They're just spreading the exact same amount money out a little more.

I'm in the camp that says everyone is entitled to get what they can get, but every company is also allowed to allocate their resources anyway they want.

In the NFL, that mean the player can look for the absolute maximum penny he can find but he runs the risk of finding that extra cash in a different organization.
Nice post.
 

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.
I get what you are saying but making $15 an hour vs. $15 million a year is a totally different ball game. As an everyday ordinary person, NO I am not taking a pay cut. However, in sports I want to win. If me taking less means we can keep guys to win, I'm all for it. That's what I would do if I was Dak or Zeke or Amari. Especially early in their career.
 

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YOU ignored my main point in my post and focused on the reneging part. Knowing that wasnt the main thing I was arguing.

It doesn’t matter if it was the main point you were arguing. It was still part of your argument and was a silly point to make. I think you realize that now hence why you want to say say it wasn’t a main point of yours.

You still typed it and said it so people can question it.
 

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I’m in the same position that Dak & Zeke are every single year. I can max out what I get and take X% and screw over my team that works for me, or I can take Y% or Z% and spread the wealth. My CFO gives me that discretion. And I’ve always chosen to spread the wealth because I prefer to have a strong & happy team working for me rather than a revolving door.
 

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a year but you thought you were worth 15 Million a year.....Would you quit your job forfeiting 9 million?? Seriously, does anyone think Zeke will make up that money lost? He has Zero leverage. Its kind of like my rental property.....If I raise the rent from 1000 to 1100 causing my tenants to move out and it take me three months to rent the property, that means I lost out on 2000 I still end up losing for the year. That's rent will never get back. Zeke will never get lost wages for a year if he chooses to sit out. He either plays for the 9 million a year that hes under contact for or signs a new contract for somewhere around 14 million a year. Sitting out would be stupid on his part.
 

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a year but you thought you were worth 15 Million a year.....Would you quit your job forfeiting 9 million?? Seriously, does anyone think Zeke will make up that money lost? He has Zero leverage. Its kind of like my rental property.....If I raise the rent from 1000 to 1100 causing my tenants to move out and it take me three months to rent the property, that means I lost out on 2000 I still end up losing for the year. That's rent will never get back. Zeke will never get lost wages for a year if he chooses to sit out. He either plays for the 9 million a year that hes under contact for or signs a new contract for somewhere around 14 million a year. Sitting out would be stupid on his part.
Nope. It's why we will see Zeke week 1 at AT&T Stadium against the Giants at 3:25 on FOX! I think he will play this year, but it could get ugly next off season if they don't make progress. Both Zeke (his agent) and Jerry need to shut their mouths.
 

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.
You won't get many good answers to the question.

If I were a player I would definitely be focused on were I wanted to play, the lifestyle there and my legacy even if it meant taking 25% less than where I didn't want to play.

I would also sign early to get guaranteed money like Jaylon just did even if I could make way more by waiting.

If Dak has a career ending injury in 2019 without a new contract then he will have made about 4M total.

If he agreed to a new contract for half of the Russell Wilson he would get 17.5M per year with 53.5M guaranteed.

The difference in going onto his post football playing life with over 50M vs with 4M made is drastically bigger in terms of life impact than 50M vs 100M.

Without agents many players would realize that concept but agents convince them to go for max money. Most agents have many other clients and the agent is not making a major life gamble by going for the max contract.

The reason the No State Income Tax issue has never helped the Cowboys is because the agents cut is not affected by how much tax the players pay. With no benefit to the agent it never gets presented to the player.
 

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You can't compare middle class to filthy rich, it's a completely different galaxy.
 
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