Twitter: Now saying they could have Zeke deal done by weekend

[Cowboys22]

At this point I would tell Zeke they have my final offer and we will be actively seeking a veteran RB before week 1. If we sign or trade for a RB, the current offer will be pulled and Zeke will be made available for trade. Getting a high pick and being rid of a constant headache while saving $13-14 million a year which can be used to keep Jones and/or Collins is a win-win-win in my book. Draft a RB next year to pair with Pollard and have the position secured for the next 3 years at a fraction of the cost allowing you to keep most/more of the young talent.

 

[Rockport]

Zeke's leverage is that the Cowboys dont have a RB on the roster that can do what he can do. Sure Pollard can look good in preseason, but can Pollard take the pounding of 30 carries a game against starting NFL defenses? Zeke and his agent are betting no, he cant. If he cant, then that means Dallas has to keep other RBs to lighten the load on Pollard, that means going heavy at the RB position and light at another position. So that extra DL or LB you can keep if Zeke is at RB, now gets cut. Less depth hurts the team overall and could lead to more losses later in the season. I think you get the point.

The real dilemma for the Cowboys is this. Can they win as many games without Zeke as they can with Zeke? If they conclude that no, they cant. Then you see them making contract offers to Zeke. Trust me, there is not a team in the entire NFL that would keep a higher paid player at any position if they concluded they could win just as many games with a cheaper player. That is what is called leverage...……….and Zeke has a lot right now.

Zeke has no leverage. Game checks start soon and he'll be getting his bank on it. And it won't be on his terms.

 

[Jake]

Zeke has no leverage.

He hasn't been fined, the Cowboys have offered him a new contract, but he has no leverage.

 

[Rockport]

He hasn't been fined, the Cowboys have offered him a new contract, but he has no leverage.

Just pay attention and have some patience Mr give me now, give me now.

 

[DogFace]

My argument, I don't have one. I'm not arguing anything. I'm telling you the facts. You can accept them or not. Won't change them either way.

Fact, he got paid already and now he don't want to work. That's a fact.

Fact, if he never works another day in his life, he's set for life. That's a fact.

Fact, Jerry has been more then fair with this kid. No reason at all to fault Jerry here. That's a fact.

Fact, he aint worth what he's asking for. None of them are but this kid, he's all wrong here. That's a fact.

Fact, Jerry and the team has said that he would be taken care of. This isn't about the money IMO, it's about the timing. That's a fact.

Now, you do with those facts, what you wish but the one thing you can't do is change them. I'd just trade him and move on, to be honest.

Eaaaaseeeeyy. Eeeeaaaasyyy

Easy tiger

You’ve lost me and I’m not sure why you’re seemingly upset with me.

Pretty sure all I ever said was he’s taking advantage of the leverage he perceives he has and that I’m ok with it. That is, I don’t blame him for trying.

Btw the only one of above that is an actual fact by definition is the first one and possibly part of the last one. All the others are “like your opinion man”.

 

[Jake]

Fact, he got paid already and now he don't want to work. That's a fact.

Fact, if he never works another day in his life, he's set for life. That's a fact.

Fact, Jerry has been more then fair with this kid. No reason at all to fault Jerry here. That's a fact.

Fact, he aint worth what he's asking for. None of them are but this kid, he's all wrong here. That's a fact.

Fact, Jerry and the team has said that he would be taken care of. This isn't about the money IMO, it's about the timing. That's a fact.

Now, you do with those facts, what you wish but the one thing you can't do is change them. I'd just trade him and move on, to be honest.

Putting "that's a fact" after each sentence doesn't necessarily make the previous statement a fact.

Perhaps if you used a bigger font or bold print "that's a fact" would be more convincing?

 

[408Cowboy]

I agree, but under the current CBA a rookie contract can be renegotiated after three seasons. Zeke played three seasons under his rookie contract and now is demanding a renegotiation, as is his right under the CBA.

The million dollar question here is why did the owners agree in the CBA that a rookie contract can be renegotiated after three seasons if first round picks have 5 years under contract? They were just setting themselves up for stuff like this.

I've asked that question in numerous threads and haven't received an answer.

 

[CWR]

I agree, but under the current CBA a rookie contract can be renegotiated after three seasons. Zeke played three seasons under his rookie contract and now is demanding a renegotiation, as is his right under the CBA.

The million dollar question here is why did the owners agree in the CBA that a rookie contract can be renegotiated after three seasons if first round picks have 5 years under contract? They were just setting themselves up for stuff like this.

I would assume because negotiations are give and take and that the owners realized by executing the fifth year option the players leverage would be greatly compromised and most of these negotiations will end in the owners favor.

In short they gave up something that they thought would be a minor set back at worst. I mean, if ownership digs in the player has limited choices, retire, come back and play on the rookie contract, or accept the deal offered. In any event ownership maintains control of that players future.

 

[viman96]

On the West Coast we have 3.5 hrs left. Zeke better hurry up so this tweet does not go to waste.

 

[glimmerman]

Weekend over and no signing.

 

[408Cowboy]

On to next weekend we go!!!!

 

[Tussinman]

I don’t understand your point about Zeke’s contract because it’s not as if he is the only one that has a guaranteed payout. That’s how it works with long term contracts. However, in the interest of accuracy, Zeke’s contract is $24MM guaranteed, and almost all of it has already been paid. The 5th year is a team option year, and therefor not guaranteed. And he’s played closer to 3 seasons than 2.

5th year in terms of practicality purposes is guaranteed. Right now it's fully guaranteed for injury and on the first calendar day of 2020 it's fully guaranteed for non-injury. The only scenario that he cannot physically get the money is if they cut a healthy Zeke before March which would actually be a better scenario for him and would never happen. In terms of realistic purposes its guaranteed.

He gets a career ending injury this season he gets the fully 34 million. He doesn't he's on the roster this March and gets all the money before any off-season activities start. The person I originally quoted was taking about guaranteed money and it's funny because Zeke has very good guaranteed money on his deal even though it's 3 years old (it's still arguably top 3 for his position) so he can't whine that he's getting screwed or low-balled.

 

[OmerV]

5th year in terms of practicility purposes is guaranteed. Right now it's fully guaranteed for injury and on the first calendar day of 2020 it's fully guaranteed for non-injury. The only scenario that he cannot physically get the money is if they cut a healthy Zeke before March which would actually be a better scenario for him and would never happen..

You were talking about his actual contract terms, and that's what I responded to, and the 5th year is and was not fully guaranteed. What the team is likely to do with that 5th year is a different issue. But even if it was fully guaranteed, it's still not as if Zeke is the only player on a long term deal that has a portion of his contract fully guaranteed. That's how it works with every long term contract.

 

[Tussinman]

You were talking about his actual contract terms, and that's what I responded to, and the 5th year is and was not fully guaranteed. What the team is likely to do with that 5th year is a different issue. But even if it was fully guaranteed, it's still not as if Zeke is the only player on a long term deal that has a portion of his contract fully guaranteed. That's how it works with every long term contract.

I am aware of this but I don't see what it has to do with the person I quoted. The original quote was players fighting against owners on not offering much guaranteed in contracts and I said that it's funny because Zeke's deal is all guaranteed money and still a good dollar amount 3 years later (basically he's not getting screwed and has been treated well)

 

[BourbonBalz]

At this point I would tell Zeke they have my final offer and we will be actively seeking a veteran RB before week 1. If we sign or trade for a RB, the current offer will be pulled and Zeke will be made available for trade. Getting a high pick and being rid of a constant headache while saving $13-14 million a year which can be used to keep Jones and/or Collins is a win-win-win in my book. Draft a RB next year to pair with Pollard and have the position secured for the next 3 years at a fraction of the cost allowing you to keep most/more of the young talent.

Unfortunately, at this point I have to agree. I want him this year and in the future, but he can’t hold the team and season hostage. This needs to be over VERY soon one way or another.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If you’re concerned with risk don’t play? That’s unrealistic and silly. If you’re concerned about injury weigh the “risk vs reward”. New concept then if you have the power—adjust it.

Lloyds of London doesn’t come close to providing what Zeke could and will earn if not hurt.
Go back and look at Jaylon’s. It was far less than I thought and much less total(I’m pretty sure) then what he’ll make next year.

The best player on the team has leverage if that team wants his unique talent on the field. And in this case they likely do.

The Stealers(it’s correct)gambled with Bell and missed the playoffs. I’m sure Jerry won’t chance that unless Zeke’s agent goes way too far.

In a league where the owners have all the power, don’t offer much guarantee on contracts, have taxpayers share their risks by buying them stadiums and then receive very little of the reward, I’ll always be on the players side.

James Conner had as good a season or better then what Bell ever had. Missing the playoffs had nothing to do with Bell missing.

I also find it funny that you blame Pitt for Bell not showing up and holding out.

As if this is all the Cowboys fault with Zeke.

I also find it interesting how people twist things around in their head to try and justify things.

 

[OmerV]

I am aware of this but I don't see what it has to do with the person I quoted. The original quote was players fighting against owners on not offering much guaranteed in contracts and I said that it's funny because Zeke's deal is all guaranteed money and still a good dollar amount 3 years later (basically he's not getting screwed and has been treated well)

I went back, and it looks like I needed to back up one post further than I did to get the full context, so I apologize for that. After seeing the context a little more clearly, I still have a comment, and that is that I don't think it's really fair to say Zeke is fighting for other RB's not getting enough guaranteed money. Zeke is fighting for Zeke.

 

[DFWJC]

 

[iceberg]

5th year in terms of practicality purposes is guaranteed. Right now it's fully guaranteed for injury and on the first calendar day of 2020 it's fully guaranteed for non-injury. The only scenario that he cannot physically get the money is if they cut a healthy Zeke before March which would actually be a better scenario for him and would never happen. In terms of realistic purposes its guaranteed.

He gets a career ending injury this season he gets the fully 34 million. He doesn't he's on the roster this March and gets all the money before any off-season activities start. The person I originally quoted was taking about guaranteed money and it's funny because Zeke has very good guaranteed money on his deal even though it's 3 years old (it's still arguably top 3 for his position) so he can't whine that he's getting screwed or low-balled.

he must have missed that memo.

 

[panchucko]

Weekend came and left with no Zeke signing, was the one who predicted the signing the same one that Predicted that Dak was going to sign a couple of months ago?