I agree with Jerry, if we sign Zeke to a new deal, what if he holds out again?

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It’s very unusual. No doubt but so is his talent level and the dependency we have on him because of our QB skill set. And really on both sides of the ball because our dominating rushing offense TOP lends support to our defense as well.

I’m not sure any other player could get away with holding out 2 years early on our roster but Elliott.

The Cowboys are obviously willing to pay him. Just a matter of hashing out how much. This is the business of the NFL.

Agree. Also need to factor in he's getting whatever the end deal is early . i.e. before his rookie contract runs out and without a franchise tag which
he would certainly face as an option..
 

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I don’t believe it’s a given they were going to extend him.

He just wants to get paid now. He sees everyone else getting paid . Why not him now? Does anyone really believe he’s not worth it?

If Dak gets his money a year early , why not him 2 years early. If Dak is out there making 30 million , doesn’t Zeke deserve more than 3 million? What if he gets hurt this year?

I totally get where Elliott is coming from. I hate that it potentially hurts the team but again this is the business of the NFL.

I don’t believe it’s a given they were going to extend him.
Think about it. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

If Dak gets his money a year early , why not him 2 years early?
Diehard you're losing it.
If 2 yrs early is Okay with you, why not 3 yrs early?
If Zeke gets it 2 yrs early why not the same thing on his next contract? If his 1st signature meant nothing, why believe the 2nd signature?
You're suggesting turning the NFL into a crazier circus than it's in already, and all just to push a ridiculous argument.
 
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I just don't understand why some don't understand that Zeke is not the only talented guy standing in line for a raise, and that the team's payroll is subject to a SALARY CAP.

So to comply with the salary cap, which of our starters do you believe should take a cut in their salaries in order to pad Zeke's greedy pocket? Hmmm?
If you were one of those starters, would you take a cut and give it to Zeke?
Do you suppose those other starters will gladly comply to said salary cuts to satisfy Zeke's greed?

Everyone else will continue to ride in Zekes backpack and get paid more than him; and were expecting him to just be OK with that?

Evidently the most expendable player on the team JUST coincidentally touches the ball more than anyone else and Garrett basically refuses to take the guy off the field.

Cooper will make more and still have less catches lol
 

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I think Zeke is an anchor waiting to drag this team down. He's not worth it, as talented as he is on the field. His behavior off-the-field is a suspension waiting to happen. I sort of understand holding out with a year left, given how RB's are treated lately, but two? MAYBE if he was proven reliable and not any risk. It in no way compares to Emmitt because Emmitt was a class act on AND off the field. Zeke is a crass act.

I'm done with this idiot. If the Cowboys keep him, I'll cheer for him to get yards and td's, but only because it helps the team. Mainly, I just want this guy gone and traded if possible.

I think the Cowboys will do okay without him. They'd do better with him on the field, but that's the issue....and at what cost. So dump this chump.
 
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I don’t believe it’s a given they were going to extend him.
Think about it. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

If Dak gets his money a year early , why not him 2 years early?
Diehard you're losing it.
If 2 yrs early is Okay with you, why not 3 yrs early?
If Zeke gets it 2 yrs early why not the same thing on his next contract? If his 1st signature meant nothing, why believe the 2nd signature?
You're suggesting turning the NFL into a crazier circus than it's in already, and all just to push a ridiculous argument.
You take one situation at a time.

And Elliott holding out is the issue that confronts us now. The rest is mere speculation.
 

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Agree. Also need to factor in he's getting whatever the end deal is early . i.e. before his rookie contract runs out and without a franchise tag which
he would certainly face as an option..
What if Elliott gets hurt this year? How does that effect his contract hopes in his final year of Rookie contract.

Not many Rookies can hold out 2 years early. This is a unique situation. Appears to have caught us off guard and potentially compromises the season.

Most fans figured we could just run him into the ground at least one more year maybe two before needing to Franchise Tag, trade or extend. That would give us time to see where we are and maybe draft a replacement.

But Elliott seeing Dak and Cooper possibly extending a year early has said , hold up .. I want to be paid now too. Lol
 

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Stephen Jones said and I quote "Zeke is the straw that stirs our drink" not Dak not Coop but Zeke!
Guess the Straw wants his dues now....

Zeke has taken that straw away from Dallas and in now sets in a coco loco drink in Cabo.
Dallas has now decided to tilt their drink to their face (straw free) to quench their thirst.
Lets see if we can empty this cup, bottoms up.

just a reminder:
Build from the inside out - trenches.
Common denominator for Demarco and Zeke?
 

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Lets say we sign Zeke to a new 5 year contract...…...2 or 3 years from now, Barkley gets a new market setting contract for a RB, but Zeke still leads the league in rushing every season.

Is Zeke going to say, "that's not fair, I had more yards rushing than Barkley so I need to make more than him" so Zeke holds out again before his contract is up demanding "renegotiation".

Whats to keep Zeke from doing this?

Serious Question.

You let him walk. If we give him that big a contract, you know we're running him into the ground. Zeke knows this is his last big contract. That's motivating his decision now, IMO.
 

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I think Zeke is an anchor waiting to drag this team down. He's not worth it, as talented as he is on the field. His behavior off-the-field is a suspension waiting to happen. I sort of understand holding out with a year left, given how RB's are treated lately, but two? MAYBE if he was proven reliable and not any risk. It in no way compares to Emmitt because Emmitt was a class act on AND off the field. Zeke is a crass act.

I'm done with this idiot. If the Cowboys keep him, I'll cheer for him to get yards and td's, but only because it helps the team. Mainly, I just want this guy gone and traded if possible.

I think the Cowboys will do okay without him. They'd do better with him on the field, but that's the issue....and at what cost. So dump this chump.

I agree with your assessment DM. And like you I'll root for him to make yards and TDs for the Cowboys, but again like you, I'd still much rather be rid of him at this point. He's more trouble than he's worth.
 

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What if Elliott gets hurt this year? How does that effect his contract hopes in his final year of Rookie contract.

Not many Rookies can hold out 2 years early. This is a unique situation. Appears to have caught us off guard and potentially compromises the season.

Most fans figured we could just run him into the ground at least one more year maybe two before needing to Franchise Tag, trade or extend. That would give us time to see where we are and maybe draft a replacement.

But Elliott seeing Dak and Cooper possibly extending a year early has said , hold up .. I want to be paid now too. Lol

what if elliott gets hurt this year.
and u want the team to extend him for that?
 

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what if elliott gets hurt this year.
and u want the team to extend him for that?
Your only looking at the team’s perspective. Im attempting to play Devils Advocate here. Is anyone here looking out for Elliotts self interest?
 

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I say it ends with the Owners lead by Jerry boycotting Elliot and making the example of what happens when you try and do this . Make him try and get top money in Canada

A Boycott sounds better, but I think they'll call that collusion.
 

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Your only looking at the team’s perspective. Im attempting to play Devils Advocate here. Is anyone here looking out for Elliotts self interest?

ur agenda is getting exposed.
i am a cowboys fan, not a zeke fan.
zeke is just a commodity.
he gets paid because of his abilities which are most likley more than 50% spent already.
dump him when the team is done with him.
 

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I agree with your assessment DM. And like you I'll root for him to make yards and TDs for the Cowboys, but again like you, I'd still much rather be rid of him at this point. He's more trouble than he's worth.
Great talent is always worth the trouble.

I don’t recall fans wanting to rid ourselves of Michael cocaine Irvin . Lol

A beast on the field and a rapist and coke head off the field who would have been suspended in today’s NFL. Many others like Erik Williams, Nate Newton.
 

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ur agenda is getting exposed.
i am a cowboys fan, not a zeke fan.
zeke is just a commodity.
he gets paid because of his abilities which are most likley more than 50% spent already.
dump him when the team is done with him.
I truly believe we are a better team with him and doubt we’ll make a serious push this year without him. That’s my agenda.

I also get why he’s holding out regardless if I see the potential damage to this team.
 

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Usually you don't get to renegotiate another deal because a RBs body wears down. This is probably Zekes last big pay day. Which is why it makes sense for RBs to want more money because they don't last as long.
 

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I don't consider Elliott great talent. Great talent doesn't fumble as much as he does. Great talent would have more long plays. Great talent wouldn't have 8 yards rushing in a game. Great talent wouldn't take himself out of games so he can catch his breath. I would also expect great talent to rush for more than 6 TDs in a season.
 

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I truly believe we are a better team with him and doubt we’ll make a serious push this year without him. That’s my agenda.

I also get why he’s holding out regardless if I see the potential damage to this team.

you already said why is no one looking out for zeke's interest
zeke is not the team
if he is not on the team, i dont care whether he is dead or alive
 

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you already said why is no one looking out for zeke's interest
zeke is not the team
if he is not on the team, i dont care whether he is dead or alive
That’s a harsh view.

What I’m saying is why should he be bashed for looking out for his own self interest? This is the business of the NFL. The Cowboys aren’t bashing him for it, why some fans?
 
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