Props to Jason Garrett

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If we win, it will be in spite of the puppet.

Why does the offense and the team get better and better the less control Garrett has?

Why does the offense and Dak blossom the moment Garrett is pushed further away from the offense?
 

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Oh I definitely hate Garrett. You got that part right.

Just look at how great our offense looks the FIRST GAME Garrett has been purged from the offense.

Can you tell the difference or no? Do you think we should go back to Garrett calling plays?
I have been hearing from the crybabies how Garrett was purged from the offense a few years ago.

Now we are going to change the narrative that Garrett was purged when Moore became coordinator?

You need to stop crying and complaining when the team is winning. It looks pathetic.
 

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I don't demand anything. I have said he has to win and win big. Meantime I'm not going to trash him on a daily basis. I'm a fan of the team I want them to be successful I pull for them and him not against. If others choose to trash him that is fine I really don't care what any other fan does, I don't watch the Cowboys for you or any other fan.

Watching what Moore has done with the offense just emphasized how bad Garrett was.

EVERYTHING that Moore has added to the offense are all things EVERYONE on this board has been screaming about for years.

Why has Garrett not been able to implement simple things that every day fans can see is needed?
 

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I have been hearing from the crybabies how Garrett was purged from the offense a few years ago.

Now we are going to change the narrative that Garrett was purged when Moore became coordinator?

You need to stop crying and complaining when the team is winning. It looks pathetic.

-Applauding Moore for doing what Garrett never could
-Giving credit for the coach that deserves credit=Moore
-Laughing at how bad Garrett was after watching Moore


-Crying by the Garrett apologists for the fan base not giving Garrett credit.
 

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-Applauding Moore for doing what Garrett never could
-Giving credit for the coach that deserves credit=Moore
-Laughing at how bad Garrett was after watching Moore


-Crying by the Garrett apologists for the fan base not giving Garrett credit.
The majority of fans are enjoying the wins and are excited about being 2-0.

Other fans come across as angry all the time and care more about winning arguments on an Internet forum than the team winning.

You fall into that category. It looks pathetic.
 

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I have been hearing from the crybabies how Garrett was purged from the offense a few years ago.

Now we are going to change the narrative that Garrett was purged when Moore became coordinator?

You need to stop crying and complaining when the team is winning. It looks pathetic.

I cant comment on what other posters have said. But the timeline is like this:

-Jones demands that Garrett give up play calling duties
-Garrett fumbles around with handing those duties to Callahan, and actually taking them back at one point.
-Callahan leaves the first moment he can because he cant stand working with Garrett
-Jones FORCES Garrett to hire a NEW OC and give those duties to him.
-Garrett hand picks Linehan to run his cookie cutter offense, just the way that Garrett wants him to in the conservative, boring fashion
-Garrett is asked after the season is over if there will be any coaching changes and he states "no major coaching changes will be made"
-Jones freaks out and slaps down Garrett publicly
-Jones forces the firing of linehan hires Moore and forces Garrett completely out of the picture. "Tell me if your ideas are not being implemented and I will make sure they are". STAY OUT OF THE WAY GARRETT!!
-Moore does his thing without Garrett meddling and the offense takes a 180 and is all of a sudden one of the top offenses in the NFL
 

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The majority of fans are enjoying the wins and are excited about being 2-0.

Other fans come across as angry all the time and care more about winning arguments on an Internet forum than the team winning.

You fall into that category. It looks pathetic.


LOL......I couldn't be happier. Garrett is out of the picture offensively and Moore is doing all the things that Garett never did.

Dak has taken that next step and the haters are all jumping on board and admitting they were wrong.



The only fans crying like babies are the ones trying push Garrett for getting credit. Then you get laughed at.
 

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Garrett may be a leader of men and master motivator. Cheers to him for that. I just want whatever I've been seeing offensively this year to continue. It feels much different from what I've seen and hopefully it continues. It feel like an offense that won't end 4 consecutive drives with a punt when it matters. We'll see.
 

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I have been hearing from the crybabies how Garrett was purged from the offense a few years ago.

Now we are going to change the narrative that Garrett was purged when Moore became coordinator?

You need to stop crying and complaining when the team is winning. It looks pathetic.
If you’re defending Garrett, you’re pathetic!
 

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Do you think linehan getting fired was a compliment to the job Linehan was doing? Do you think replacing Garrett with Linehan was a compliment to Garrett?

Are you not seeing the differences in the Moore led offense as compared to Garrett or Linehan?

Miraculously, our redzone problems have disappeared. And we cant sit here and say its just Zeke running it in behind a better Oline. We are passing the ball into the endzone.

I don't think a coordinator leaving after 5 seasons in the job to necessarily be an indictment of his work or his boss. Especially when they elevate his hand-picked protege to the job.

I am seeing the differences on offense. I think they're great. We're 2nd in the entire league right now in terms of points/offensive drive, which is the stat I always look to to see how we're comparing offensively. That compares positively to 2016, when we were 6th with a different OC and the same QB. And to 2014, when we ended up 4th, with a different OC and a different QB. Let's hope it holds up after teams get a handle on our tendencies and once we get past the soft defenses in the early spots on our schedule. It's great.

The redzone stuff is great, too. Last year's redzone issues were a function of having lost both Dez and Witten in the prior offseason and not replacing either until we made the Amari trade, and of having limited blocking at the second level with Frederick out, making it a lot harder to run in close when the coverage compressed. None of those things are problems right now, but it's also the case that Kellen Moore has done a great job with play calling. It's showing in the points/series data.

What I don't get is why you'd think I'd consider the offensive production a negative for our head coach. He's doing what he's supposed to be doing. Evolving the team schematically, improving the staff, and improving the quality and the depth of the personnel. In what world is that a negative? I mean, in what sane world?
 

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I don't think a coordinator leaving after 5 seasons in the job to necessarily be an indictment of his work or his boss. Especially when they elevate his hand-picked protege to the job.

I am seeing the differences on offense. I think they're great. We're 2nd in the entire league right now in terms of points/offensive drive, which is the stat I always look to to see how we're comparing offensively. That compares positively to 2016, when we were 6th with a different OC and the same QB. And to 2014, when we ended up 4th, with a different OC and a different QB. Let's hope it holds up after teams get a handle on our tendencies and once we get past the soft defenses in the early spots on our schedule. It's great.

The redzone stuff is great, too. Last year's redzone issues were a function of having lost both Dez and Witten in the prior offseason and not replacing either until we made the Amari trade, and of having limited blocking at the second level with Frederick out, making it a lot harder to run in close when the coverage compressed. None of those things are problems right now, but it's also the case that Kellen Moore has done a great job with play calling. It's showing in the points/series data.

What I don't get is why you'd think I'd consider the offensive production a negative for our head coach. He's doing what he's supposed to be doing. Evolving the team schematically, improving the staff, and improving the quality and the depth of the personnel. In what world is that a negative? I mean, in what sane world?

In Cowboys world. Where the HC is just a puppet and Jones forces things on his puppet. Just like he did with Moore and told Garrett to stay out of the way.

When Moore is brought in to take "Garrett's offense" into the 21st century you give credit to the Moore who actually made that happen.

And based on evidence that are available to us, its very obvious that Jones was behind the change and Garrett is simply following orders like the puppet that he is.

How do you explain Garrett saying "there will be no major changes to the coaching staff"? Then Jones getting pissed at Garrett publicly and two days later Linehan being fired.
 

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In Cowboys world. Where the HC is just a puppet and Jones forces things on his puppet. Just like he did with Moore and told Garrett to stay out of the way.

When Moore is brought in to take "Garrett's offense" into the 21st century you give credit to the Moore who actually made that happen.

And based on evidence that are available to us, its very obvious that Jones was behind the change and Garrett is simply following orders like the puppet that he is.

How do you explain Garrett saying "there will be no major changes to the coaching staff"? Then Jones getting pissed at Garrett publicly and two days later Linehan being fired.


When your narrative is based purely on fantasy, no explanation is necessary or sufficient.
 

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I don't think a coordinator leaving after 5 seasons in the job to necessarily be an indictment of his work or his boss. Especially when they elevate his hand-picked protege to the job.

I am seeing the differences on offense. I think they're great. We're 2nd in the entire league right now in terms of points/offensive drive, which is the stat I always look to to see how we're comparing offensively. That compares positively to 2016, when we were 6th with a different OC and the same QB. And to 2014, when we ended up 4th, with a different OC and a different QB. Let's hope it holds up after teams get a handle on our tendencies and once we get past the soft defenses in the early spots on our schedule. It's great.

The redzone stuff is great, too. Last year's redzone issues were a function of having lost both Dez and Witten in the prior offseason and not replacing either until we made the Amari trade, and of having limited blocking at the second level with Frederick out, making it a lot harder to run in close when the coverage compressed. None of those things are problems right now, but it's also the case that Kellen Moore has done a great job with play calling. It's showing in the points/series data.

What I don't get is why you'd think I'd consider the offensive production a negative for our head coach. He's doing what he's supposed to be doing. Evolving the team schematically, improving the staff, and improving the quality and the depth of the personnel. In what world is that a negative? I mean, in what sane world?
I can understand people having a beef with his play calling, if he were the one calling the plays for the past 8 years. I can see people criticizing his clock management, here and there.

But criticizing him for having red hair, clapping, being enthusiastic with his players, or "icing his own kicker" are just ridiculous reasons to dislike him.
 

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I can understand people having a beef with his play calling, if he were the one calling the plays for the past 8 years. I can see people criticizing his clock management, here and there.

But criticizing him for having red hair, clapping, being enthusiastic with his players, or "icing his own kicker" are just ridiculous reasons to dislike him.

Garrett was a mediocre play caller. Linehan was actually better than Garrett was at it, and Linehan wasn't great. Moore is--so far--better than both of them. I also think Dak's mechanics are a lot better, and I think we saw late last year that he'd already started seeing the field in a way he hadn't previously. We've got better protection, and better weapons for him. The offense really should be improved, regardless.
 

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...How do you explain Garrett saying "there will be no major changes to the coaching staff"? Then Jones getting pissed at Garrett publicly and two days later Linehan being fired.

It's irrelevant to this conversation, but what Garrett actually said was that they didn't 'anticipate any changes,' and he said that because it was the week or so before they headed into the senior bowl, which is well known to be the job fair for out of work or soon to be out of work coaches. Whatever Linehan did to set Jerry off changed the plan from the usual take-the-high-road and mutually part ways this team usually does.

Jones didn't 'get pissed at Garrett publicly,' either, btw.
 

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Garrett was a mediocre play caller. Linehan was actually better than Garrett was at it, and Linehan wasn't great. Moore is--so far--better than both of them. I also think Dak's mechanics are a lot better, and I think we saw late last year that he'd already started seeing the field in a way he hadn't previously. We've got better protection, and better weapons for him. The offense really should be improved, regardless.
Well said!
 

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The majority of fans are enjoying the wins and are excited about being 2-0.

Other fans come across as angry all the time and care more about winning arguments on an Internet forum than the team winning.

You fall into that category. It looks pathetic.
the question is not that we're winning, but WHY we're winning. and that has little to do with garrett. doesn't lessen the pleasure of seeing us victorious.
 

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You guys shouldn't forget that Garrett couldn't win the division when the Commanders clinched it with only 7 wins.
The East has been in constant rebuild mode, but Garrett has struggled most years to get to 9 wins.
Linehan saved his job in 2014, and carried him since. Now it's Moore.
Don't come with that crap about Garrett's top offenses, either. They passed between the twenties, but because Garrett had abandoned the run game they couldn't score when the field shortened and the receivers couldn't get open.
Garrett isn't just an average coach- he's terrible.
 
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